Art,We do many things that does not really appeal to us.These Kids are haveing operations on their arms, legs,Feet,Hands.Many of them are really little tikes that can not do for themself.Many have been handicapped for years.Unable to walk and run like other kids.Cannot even throw a base ball like other kids.You should see the smiles on their faces.It really melts you heart.5 hours 3 days a week is all I can do.
Jim <
Dustoff>
IL USA - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 21:54:05 (MST)
HI Jim I could not do that I mean working in a kids when my daughter was born she had a birth problem her big boul had grown into her small one & I walk around & had seen so meney kids sick I look in one room & thort I was looking at a doll thort it was strech arm strong then a nurce cam & look at me do you know what you are looking at a doll she sead no a baby & there a lot more like it some mother just think they can take eany thing & drink & then I thorte about tammy & found out when Tammy look for her bi mother she did drugs I can say I tried pot & got nothing from it I staied to beer & joney walker red or black lable & only had some during the summer like 3or4 cans the hole summer & when Josh was born he had problems with his head they had to take the hole back of his head off that hurt just as bad as the first time with Tammy & Glenda told me that you would no take it so I stade home he got a scar from ear to ear his hair cover it & I hope the one she going to have now will be ok O the so called profits in her church told her she going to have a girl they got a bout 6or7 of them year puled my pants up to late to save my shows it was getting deep that church take a little from every church the reason they go thar is that they tell her husben what he wants to hear one time the head jurk off was telling brad & did not belive what he was saying you are a smart guy & I all most shit my self he dont know how to change a flat or check oil or water in a car I show him 6or7 time an he still dont i just gave up on trying to help him he dont want to learn how to do some thing on cars & one thing his son is got more head on than his fother got or ever will have.
Art
USA - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 18:50:49 (MST)
Dust off-your are the angel of bedpans:>))) We're going to get a foot of snow here within the next 24 hours.....I love it! Animal, bring your surf board:>))) Everyone, as Gary says, be careful out there...especially you Fred! Love -Gently
gently
USA - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 09:57:23 (MST)
How about those Saints!!
Gary Mount
USA - Sunday, February 07, 2010 at 20:41:18 (MST)
Be careful out there guys.
Gary Mount
USA - Saturday, February 06, 2010 at 12:35:40 (MST)
Went to my Volinteer job at the shrine Hospital as a bedpan jocky for the kids.While there it started to snow and when I was ready to go home I had trouble finding my jeep under all the snow in the parking lot.Had to 4 wheel drive all the way back to Illinois and home.Almost 2 hrs at 20mph.Really a bunch of crazy drivers,accidents all over the road.
Jim <
Dustoff>
IL USA - Friday, February 05, 2010 at 22:11:53 (MST)
Fred, ya my yard is white again but it looks like Mark is the one who will get a bunch over in Ohio. I am on the edge here. Still like to watch it fall!
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Friday, February 05, 2010 at 09:26:22 (MST)
ut oh, just saw the weather forecast.
alvis
USA - Friday, February 05, 2010 at 04:52:13 (MST)
in town (home) for the night,on way to Greensboro NC. (again). Auther, recieved the CD and viewed it. Thanks a million buddy. Now have to figure out how to rip pics to post on Yahoo site and/or mail to some folks, like Jae and Phil/Simon. Speaking of Jae, he has returned from Vietnam and posted a few pics on the english side web site.
alvis
USA - Thursday, February 04, 2010 at 17:18:41 (MST)
Talking to my buddy, I used to work with and hang out with, he goes fishing a lot and usually under the JFK bridge there going out to the Island,the pier he fishes at is on the intercoastal, this time of year there are plenty of bull drums, reds and black, he and another guy caught a couple of 3o lbers the other day, we used to go down the beach at spring break, lots and lots of pretty women to look at and have a couple of coolones too bot, ah, the memorys.. clear right, Tex 70-71
Gary Mount
USA - Thursday, February 04, 2010 at 11:31:44 (MST)
Animal, I called the cabbie one day after you told me you two were buds. He laughed when I told him your name... hmm. We have NO snow on the ground right now, here at 5800 feet!
Dave Powers
USA - Thursday, February 04, 2010 at 11:17:25 (MST)
Animal, come up here and we'll get you on a snowboard up at Telluride... you can also see your old cabbie buddy (heh, heh)!
Dave Powers
USA - Thursday, February 04, 2010 at 11:11:40 (MST)
Well,I can top that.I got me an good Tan on the beach in Okinawa in December 2009.Still have some left.Wish that I could share some with you guys.
Jim <
Dustoff>
IL USA - Thursday, February 04, 2010 at 09:27:04 (MST)
HI talking about beach ware I grow up in Rhode Island at my grandmothers house walk down the stars there the water & never went to the house to eat you just dug with your feet shell fist that when we had it good
Art
USA - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 20:07:00 (MST)
Talking about oceans, there are times I miss Corpus Christi, maybe a handfull of cool days, miss the bayfront and the beach, Padre I sland, the drive down Ocean Drive along the bayfront is probably the finest there is, beautiful, but Im cloer to my son and grandsons now so thats more important, Clear right, Tex 70-71
Gary Mount
USA - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 19:37:13 (MST)
Gently..Kokomo is the 17th, 18th and 19th of September. Check it out at < http://www.hcvvo.org/hcvvo_web_page_004.htm >.........
Mark
` - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 12:53:46 (MST)
Animal...think tobaggan, hot chocolate, laughter! Meanwhile, I'll think ocean:>)) Anyone got the dates for Kokomo? I have to get my airline tickets. I'm thinking the week of Sept 13----correct? Love-Gently
Gently
USA - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 10:14:44 (MST)
Good one Greg Been kinda mild winter here this year. Only one big snow fall. Some expected this weekend though. We'll see...................
Mark
USA - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 09:30:43 (MST)
I hadn't been in the ocean for a week. The waves were mediocre at best today for bodyboarding. Choppy Two to three feet with an onshore wind. I sure miss sledding in the midwest.(not!)
Animal
Puna , HI USA - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 00:55:04 (MST)
Expecting more snow in the next day or two, been a doozy for around these parts.
GARY MOUNT
USA - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 18:32:27 (MST)
morning all, if clicking on my name doesn't work try to copy and paste this http://donald_6.tripod.com/129thmiakia1.htm Later, Don
Don Miller
Valley Farms, AZ USA - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 07:49:59 (MST)
HI I click on it & no go well went to the VA today they going to look ware the sun dont shine 3/16/10 & they give me the finger ckeck then down the upper get it to see how come when I eat I get sick liquid dont pop tarts dont toasted chees as long as it not fried & I hope they find out.
Art
USA - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 16:35:35 (MST)
Glad to see your allright, Gary, take care, Tex70-71
Gary Mount
USA - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 14:34:32 (MST)
Sounds like some of you are having a typical Wisconsin winter. LOL!!! Buck up! L-Gently
gently
USA - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 12:28:05 (MST)
I talked to Ray and Gail on Friday night. Both are fine. Gail is now giving him his meds instead of Ray taking them himself..this will solve alot of the problems he's had. He sounded fully functional is is walking and feeding his birds again..both very good signs. He loves to talk on the phone, so if you get a chance, give him a call. Love-Gently
Gently
USA - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 12:24:49 (MST)
Alex ****been out of power & water since Friday eve ***finaly got power back last nite about 9 PM **thanks for checking **emergency suppiles pay off every few years ---was able to get to town yesterday and restock for next time
Gary Woodward
memphis, Tn USA - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 08:51:40 (MST)
Thank you , Don Miller..
Gary Mount
USA - Sunday, January 31, 2010 at 15:46:23 (MST)
Art, to get to Don's site "Click" on his name at his last post down below...........
Mark
USA - Sunday, January 31, 2010 at 15:32:43 (MST)
HI Don how do you get to your site & I see other aregetting a lot of rain.
Art
USA - Sunday, January 31, 2010 at 15:04:17 (MST)
Don, I checked out your website, and it is well done and easy to access. Click on a person's name and it will give you all information available, and possibly a picture. I liked the one of Larry Jackson in front of the Judge. I have a picture of myself in front of the Judge like that. Good job.
Robbie
Rochester, USA - Sunday, January 31, 2010 at 07:20:42 (MST)
Haven't gotten out of he house since wens. The back of our house faces highway 287 north and that was closed during the storm too. Our street is bad and hasn't been plowed. We needed it though. Hope all is going well with everyone. I've been better. Ray glad your doing better, been praying for you.
Melody
USA - Saturday, January 30, 2010 at 22:40:15 (MST)
It has been a bad winter here too, in Lubbock and especially north of here, we had quite a ice storm here, it broke a lot of trees here and power lines, some smaller communitys were without power all day, around here and lots of accidents, not much snow,but in Amarillo, they had over a foot and 3 foot drifts, interstate 40 was closed down in both directions to New Mexico and to Oklahoma, Been keeping up with the weather through the Farmers Alamanac, been accurate so far, supposed to get some more snow next week after the 4th-7th and severe weather in April. we usually have a lot of tornadoes if we have a lot of snow in the winter, sure hope not, anyways hope everyone is warm and cozy and doing well, take care, my brothers and may God bless, clear right, Tex 70-71
Gary Mount
USA - Saturday, January 30, 2010 at 19:47:25 (MST)
evening flight, I have been working on a new format for my web page. I am about done with it but I would like some more input about the way it is now. so if you would take a look at it and let me know if you like it better than the old format. I still have a few things I want to do to it but they are small things. and everyone is talking about the weather well from my house I can see snow on the tops of the pinal mountains (northeast of me) and on the 96 ranch (southeast of me)but nothing here in my yard except a little more than 3 1//2 inches of rain. I have moss growing in the shady spots. it is really wet around here. we need it but I'm getting tired of it. take care and let me know what you think. later Don
Don Miller
Valley Farms, AZ USA - Saturday, January 30, 2010 at 19:44:36 (MST)
HI I got some money that I need to send for the book I got off Bill so ware do I send it.
Art
USA - Saturday, January 30, 2010 at 18:46:30 (MST)
HI you got all the snow we geting all the rain part of my yard is under water had a tree up root & if you go off the side of the drive way you sink in 6" the ground like a spung & you gont get out side it get you down in the house all day I eather go to wal mart or home depot & that get old qiick & I glag to go to the VA & you got to pritty bored to say that
Art
USA - Saturday, January 30, 2010 at 14:07:28 (MST)
Ken, yeah! this winter sucks. I can't stand being indoors this much. As far as Kokomo goes, I think it's the best environment for all. I love being outdoors, campfires, brotherhood and good food. I hope we can top last years turn out....we'll see!?
Gale
USA - Saturday, January 30, 2010 at 13:15:16 (MST)
Stuck in Indiana bites this year! I am hating this winter and miss that I was able to get down South to visit with Jim (Stickman) & Larry Lackey this time last year. At least I could go outside instead of living in my bedroom. I did make it out to the Post Office yesterday to send in our request for six sites @ Kokomo this year. So looking forward to September & so hoping many more of you can make it this year. I still say it is a combo of just plain fun mixed with a heartwarming experience with all that come.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Saturday, January 30, 2010 at 11:03:10 (MST)
Goodmorning Flight. Gale we got mostly ice. Will venture out in a few hours for work. Autozone don't close for weather. We are lucky in our area. All the power and phone lines are under ground. So, we got power. Don't know about Gary?? he lives on the east side of Collierville where they had some power outages. Windchill in the teen's. I'm ready for spring!!! Alot, of talk of the VA and the vet centers, Nashville VA headquarters for compensation reconizes only the VA hospital ptsd dept. and not the Vet Centers. C&p hearings is the only way you will get a judgement. All VA hospitals will have a Advocate office for Vetearns having problem with their claim or other problems. They got me my c&p hearing in less than 3 weeks. Always A Brother!!
Alex
Collierville, T N USA - Saturday, January 30, 2010 at 08:27:27 (MST)
Three years ago, I requested a face to face meeting with the appeals board.I just got a letter telling me it has been approved.They say,another lettert will be sent to me telling me where to go for the Board meeting.I have been preparing myself for the great meeting.Are they going to get an ear full?Halaluya!!!
Jim <
Dustoff>
IL USA - Friday, January 29, 2010 at 21:36:46 (MST)
HI Jim Matt wright my I was not thinking how some doc are & the staff at va.
Art
USA - Friday, January 29, 2010 at 18:22:54 (MST)
Jim (Dustoff)…..The reason I suggested the Vet Center is they were started by vets to help vets. The VA on the other hand …..well you know. Now a days the Vet Centers and the VA share info. But in most of what I have heard from others you stand a much better chance with them (vet center) than with the VA. But again you need to fin others in your area that have gone through the process and find out who does the most for us. Several opinions are better than one……….Keep up the fight….. and once you get through find someone you can point the way……Tails Clear Left……Casey
Matt Casey
Hemet , CA USA - Friday, January 29, 2010 at 11:46:48 (MST)
Alex, Don and anyone else in the path of the ice storm, becareful down there brothers. I am glad that it went you way instead of ours tho!
Gale
USA - Friday, January 29, 2010 at 09:45:44 (MST)
HI well I got the movies that I had put on dvd of the 68 top tigers my seckent time in NAM there not to bad & did eany one do it in the 129th shore would be nice to see them.
Art
USA - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 20:13:17 (MST)
..ahh.........better yet Art........ha,ha,ha,ha,,,,,,,,,
Mark
USA - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 19:10:17 (MST)
HI mark how about sending him some a BIG BIG box of chocolate & have them filled with X LACK & not waist a bullet & let him shit him self to death.
Art
USA - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 18:47:17 (MST)
OOOOORAAAHHHH! Mark, good one!!
GARY MOUNT
USA - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 10:34:30 (MST)
Ray---we all love you. L-Gently
Gently
USA - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 08:53:16 (MST)
'Since Valentine's Day is for a Christian saint, and we're Jewish,' she asks, 'Will God get mad at me for giving someone a valentine?.....................................
Melissa's father thinks a bit, then says: 'No, I don't think God would get mad. Whom do you want to give a Valentine to?'.....................................
'Osama Bin Laden,' she says...........................................
'Why Osama Bin Laden?' her father asks in shock..................................
'Well,' she says, 'I thought that if a little American Jewish girl could have enough love to give Osama a Valentine, he might start to think that maybe we're not all bad, and maybe start loving people a little bit..................................
And if other kids saw what I did and sent Valentines to Osama, he'd love everyone a lot.....................................
And then he'd start going all over the place to tell everyone how much he loved them, and how he didn't hate anyone anymore.'....................................
Her father's heart swells and he looks at his daughter with new found pride. 'Melissa, that's the most wonderful thing I have ever heard.'...............................
'I know, ' Melissa says, 'and once that gets him out in the open, the Marines could shoot the bastard.............................OOORAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.............
Mark
USA - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 08:44:48 (MST)
I think that the VA is spending too much time on their knees praying that we will DIE and just go away into the night quitly and they will not have to deal with us.
Jim <
Dustoff>
IL USA - Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 06:56:22 (MST)
HI Ken she wright it took Glenda 4 years & jan 07 & in nov of 07 went to be with GOD O had a lawer just a shit head did not even look ather fileto we were at the hearing & then sent us a letter he did not get all his money so Glenda called the SS office they look at her records told her you dont owe him eany money & if he send you a nother letter just send it here we will tak care of him & he did took it to SS office we tack care of him well we did not get a nother one.
Art
USA - Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 14:53:59 (MST)
Talked to Ray Gagner yesterday, and he sounded great. There was no squeaking to his voice, no stuttering and he was very clear in what he was saying. He told me he feels like he used to and was out feeding his birds and sweeping the deck off. I sure am glad for him he deserves to feel good after all the crap he went through. Been playing a lot of guitar this winter.
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 12:39:00 (MST)
Just got off the phone with Social Security, the lady asked if I had an attorney, when I said NO, she just said WOW! I had to ask what she met and said very few get approved without it. Guess there is something wrong with the system but she told me it would be weeks and not months before I get my money after 4 years & 4 months. Now all I have to do is live long enough to enjoy some of it. Now back to VA & try to get my P&T. Like I said before, "Never Give UP"!
Ken Strong Jr.
Lafayette, IN USA - Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 08:23:32 (MST)
Griff, you or Smitty please go to the yahoo site,click on the pics,and tell me who are the two guys standing near me when I am holding the monkey.Thanks.heck, you may have taken the pic,lol.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 17:07:59 (MST)
Did you know these things about our highway systems? The white lines are 15 foot and are spaced 30 feet apart.Dont look it,but true. The big green signs over the interstates that give the info on the road at the next exit? above then is the smaller green sign that gives the exit number....if the small sign is on the left, its a left exit,same for the right. Those black and yellow signs/markers on guard rails,bridge supports,ect..they ALWAYS point toward the road, no matter which side their on. Many interstates have small poles on the side of the road for "poor vision" road conditions,driving.There is a single round (most states) reflector mounted near the top. When you see double (one above the other) reflectors,it means either an off ramp or a on ramp. The double reflectors are only on these ramps. Happy driving.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 17:04:33 (MST)
Casey, is exactly right, I went to the vet center here and talked with a counselor, he is good and knows the in and outs and how to get good help, joined the group andthey have loads of advice for me, go to a local dav org. a vet center where they have groups for ptsd, and they will help and have the experince to tell you where to go and where not too, hope we helped, someone, you can get a bad counselor at the v.a. and get bad advice too, best bet are vets that have experince in a vet center, but never give up.Tex 70-71 clear right..
Gary Mount
USA - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 13:13:23 (MST)
Jim ( Dustoff) as others might have said the VA seems to think that if they piss you off enough or they make you wait, that you will give up and go away. You might see if there is a Vet Center somewhere in your area. Ask to get into a PTSD group with other Vietnam vets. Once in, ask who; is the best service group rep. in the area. Then have your power of attorney changed to them. All in all just keep on fighting for your rights…… Tails Clear left…..Casey
Matt Casey
Hemet , CA USA - Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 10:47:26 (MST)
I finally watched the You-Tube program of the 129th this morning. The part everyone was talking about with the chute was a cobra platoon ship with mini gun chute. I'm with Robbie, I never used a chute on my 60's ether. We always used a can.
John Sartor <
sartor_john@yahoo.com>
Oceanside, CA USA - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 09:13:28 (MST)
time to leave out again,,or as Willie says, :ON the Road Again..
alvis
USA - Monday, January 25, 2010 at 05:52:23 (MST)
In 1984, I went to the v.a. , was having anger problems and marital problems, met a good counselor, wounded vet, he sent me to a shrink. was worse off. gave me bunch of crap, magic pills for depression, ptsd was barely recognized at that time, took me years and haggling to get what I have now, mostly self medicated myself,over the years, lost a lot and hurt myself and othersin a lotof ways,finally just learned to live with it, and stay the hell away from people in general, doing well now after all these years, this site has been a hellof a lot of good, I was fortunate, God took care of me when I didnt give a shit, Iam fortunate, lots of us werent.. clear right, Tex 70-71
Gary Mount
USA - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 19:01:18 (MST)
I firmly believe that my problem with the VA started with the dav.rep. who I gave my power of attorny to for my application.He was always in a hurry to hookup with his Bikerdolly and left many things off my app.When I confronted him,he laughed it off.I told the VA about his attitude.THey came back and said,they do not take kindly with bad mouthing their Reps.That was when I asked for a personal interview with the powers to be at VA.I just got an letter from them informing me that my request is going to be granted soon.
Jim <
Dustoff>
IL USA - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 18:41:51 (MST)
40years too late
gary mount
USA - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 15:03:05 (MST)
I sure have had my battles with the V.A., like most of us, maybe it willget better for the this generation and others to come,at least they say, Thanks for your service,now. clear right, Tex 70-71
Gary Mount
USA - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 12:23:12 (MST)
wrote this 4 years ago ,on a war poem site. Think i was drunk at the time...just came across it on another, different site......
Peace, the gentle sister of war,
was known and loved throughout the land.
Mothers, fathers, little sisters too,
knew Brother War could get out of hand.
Ah, but little boys, loved him so,
played his games and had a ball.
Kill the Indians, kill the Krauts,
kill the Yankees, kill them all.
Brother War had his plan,
bullets, agent orange and the gas.
Kill every living thing,
burn, steal, rape the lass.
Mothers, fathers, little sisters too,
lit the candles, and cried.
Death and war,
and little boys pride.
Mother Nature and her gentle hand,
with Sister Peace looks over the land.
Begone war with your pain,
love of peace with flowers in the bloody sand.
People grow tired of war and loss,
he makes no sense in the end.
Listen and you will hear
those dead little boys, crying in the wind.
alvis
USA - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 10:53:27 (MST)
Glad to see Ray posted that he was home. He called me yesterday to let me know. Smitty one thing people have to realize is your dealing with two VA places. You have the hospital and clinics. And, then there is compensation.These are too entire different dept. C&p is the hard one. C&p is when you place a claim. And, someone whom never has beem in the military judges the out come of your claim. Thats right!! Always A Brother!!!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 09:06:35 (MST)
Mark, it figures I was looking at the wrong spot on that video. I'll have to take another look at the right spot. I know I've told you this before, but if I think about it I can still picture Larry's face grinning at me from the other side of the ship. Ray, good to see you're home. I'll have to give you a call. Been busy all weekend. Helped a friend put a battery in his rendevous (no easy job there) and rotated his tires. My truck was making noises so I checked the front wheels and both would go clunk clunk when pulled on. Ended up replacing wheel bearings, rotors, brakes. Today going to change oil and rotate tires on another one and then work on his dirt bike.
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 07:38:02 (MST)
2 more days Smitty?..wow.You gonna hit the road in a RV? I think most bitch about the VA itself, not the folks working there..thats my view of it anyway. I think Ray is talking about another patient. GO COLTS
alvis
USA - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 07:16:58 (MST)
AMEN__JIM
Jeff Sauers
USA - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 07:14:20 (MST)
Ray, I am glad you are home safe, My linda will retire in 2 days with 30 full years of service feeding our vets, she never poisened 1 & most vets leave here with more weight than they came with GOD bless her. I put in 20 & never hurt anyone. I get very sad & tired of all the comlaints about the VA. They have always taken good care of me. >>>> Repects to all>>>> Jim
jim westwang
sheridan, wyoming USA - Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 01:24:01 (MST)
Ray, glad you are home and know what you are talking about at the VA. Of coarse in Indy they don't seem to know what is going on from one shift to another. Also don't remember ammo chutes being used. The one thing you wouldn't have to worry about the wind catching the ammo. If it got it over the edge of the can, well maybe some of you know what I am talking about. Could loose a bunch or a whole cans worth.
Ken Strong Jr.
Lafayette, IN USA - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 20:23:11 (MST)
Hey, guys, someday on the other side, there is no doubt we will all see each other again and have one hell of a party, well all be at peace then.
Gary Mount
USA - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 20:12:47 (MST)
Ray, glad you are home, Ray, you have a lot of people on this site that cares about you, will have to check that site out, dont remeber anyone using a shute for their 60s, I naever did, used the 50 round ammo can that attached to it or c rat can, Tiger wagon used the ammo chute unless they had to go on a ca, rare, switched over to c rats cans when they did, have a good evening and weekend, Flight, gonna miss, Conan, tonight show, had Robin Williams on Thursdaynite, Hilarious, Later, Tex the phantom 70-71 d/g 1st. flt. plt.
Gary Mount
USA - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 17:56:30 (MST)
Welcome HOME }}}}}RAY{{{{{
alvis
USA - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 17:48:37 (MST)
Bing maps is like google earth but show airal and bird's eye and the roads. Just thought all you might want to know. did my good for the month
Shorty <
boling7461@msn.com>
USA - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 16:09:23 (MST)
HI ITS BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I POSTED. I FEEL OK EXECPT WHEN THATT MAN TRYED TO RIP MY HEAD OFF ,I STILL HAVE BAD PAIN
ALL WAS COVED UP/ IF IT WAS NOT NOT FO A FRIEND OF MINE HE PULLED HIM OFF ME. BUT ALL WAS DENIED THEY SAID I MADE IT UP TO GET OUT. SO MUCH GOSE ONT THE AND IS COVED UP. I LOVE TO SEE SOME ONE GO IN AND DO A FULL INVESTERINGON THERE ALL THAT GOSE OSE ON IS COVED UP WORSE THAN WATER GATER BUT IAM HOME NOW.THEY BELIBE ME WHEN WHEN THAT MAN KILLS SOME
GLADE TO BE HOME I REALY THOUGHT I BE SAFE THERE NO WAY I LIKE THE FBI GO IN AND DO A FUL CHECK OUT OF THE PLACE ALL IS SWEEPED UNDER THE RUG ONE DAY SOME WILL BE KILLED THERE BUT I GUESS THAT WILL BE COVED UP SO GOO TO BE HOME TAKE CARE MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS RAY
Ray <
gagnerray@yahoo.com>
Street, MD USA - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 14:45:52 (MST)
mARK, YOU CAN SAY YOU LOVE US ALL YOU WANT...but I still aint taking a warm shower with you.
ALVIS
USA - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 14:44:42 (MST)
Hey Robbie, I think you are talking about the part of the video where the troops are loading, that is from the RH side. I was talking about the part in the segment at 3:02/3:10 and at 3:15/3:28. These parts of the video are of the Crew Chief in the left rear seat. Wouldn't you agree? You are correct about Larry never useing a chute for the ammo. I have never seen a picture of his ship with a chute on it. If it is Larry, I would have to say it is of his early days in the 129th. He got there in Dec. of 68. The reason I say this is because of the condition of his helmet. All the photos I have of him , the green paint is chipped off pretty bad, but probably in his early days it still would of had a good paint job on it. As the guy has in the video. I do have one photo of him where his helmet is just starting to show signs of wear. Elmer told me once that Larry may have had the shinniest ship in all of Vietnam but he had the shitiest looking helmet ever. That photo of his helmet with little wear on it I think you may have sent me. Maybe not. I will post some photos of Larry for further inspection on the 129th Yahoo site........Did I tell all of you guys and gals that I loved you yet today????..........Good news about Ray being home. Will have to call him later....................always a brother............
Mark
USA - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 12:42:37 (MST)
I just talked to Ray on Messenger and he is home. A guy tried to break his neck in the hospital so his neck is pretty sore and bothers him a lot. Other than that, he was in pretty good shape. The way he talked the hospital we covering it up. He had to cut things short as he had to get some hot compresses to put on his neck. Thats all for now. Keep Ray in your prayers and hopefully he post here and updates everyone soon. L8r..
Kal
USA - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 12:14:31 (MST)
Mark, I took a look at that video and I guess that could be Larry. Would have been when he was a gunner cuz he's on the right side. Also I don't remember him ever using a chute for ammo feed. Always used a bean can and told me to do the same when I was his gunner. But he was there before I was. Was there a time frame on that video? I agree with Alex and Wink, that Ray should get a different counselor to help him.
Robbie
Rochester, USA - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 08:45:20 (MST)
Flight: Update on Ray. Gail is to get him home on Monday. They have adjusted his medication. But, myself, robbie and wink. Thinks he needs a different consuler. Also, find some place he can go such as a senior place where can be around people instead of four walls and boredom. Which will lead into depression. Well,works has called for me to get there now. Take care!! Always A Brother!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 08:12:48 (MST)
HI Paul yes to day thank he like it. the way I am is becaust of the time in NAM when I see a fng do somthing that might get some one killed I would tell him & it would stay with me after Fray got killed & that how come I went in tunnles & bunkerts it did not matter if I came home ina bag I had nothing to go home to I was going out with a girl for 4 years that can hurt & NAM you lose the will to live it took two more time push it back in your darkes place then when Glenda pasted away it came back you never get rid of it it thare in to somthing happen & nothing you can do about it losing one time bad but two time that when it my time I be glad like this is like being on a mechine keeping you alive.
Art
USA - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 22:14:57 (MST)
Hi Paul, how's life treating you? ART, I wasn't trying to chastize you, I do believe in your right to like or dislike anything the government gasbags do or say...As my dear departed mom would say, despise the sin, love the sinner... somewhere along the way, we ( me included) have forgotten that message. I was just pointing out that it's easy to misread the results of this, or any other election. As T.P. O'Neal said, ALL politics is local! That's why most of us hate congress but like OUR congressman. My feeling is to vote against every one of them, until they get the hint that maybe they should try and do something for the people every once in a while.. thanks Mark
Kim
USA - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 21:02:43 (MST)
HI I would do eany thing if I just shut up I maid one BIG mess & wish I could this bother me & went to the VA today for therapy it did not help they asked what the matter nothing but they knew better when I do what I did & things happen like they did it bilds up in me I even bit Josh head off then I graved him & held him tight & told him I loved him & I am going to see my DOC monday.take care guy.
Art
USA - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 20:48:13 (MST)
KIM; nice to see you in here. long time no hear.GENTLY; did you get cookies? ART ; did you get the game for josh?
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 19:43:31 (MST)
Glad you stoped in Kim, don't be a stranger......as I said........air it out in here, just "NO" debates......we can debate it at the polls......thanks again brothers and sisters...........
Mark
USA - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 19:18:23 (MST)
Art,I should know better than to check in on this site. As for the mass election, it was a perfect storm! 1)any body in northern new england has to know better than to insult a living legend of Red Sox Nation, if they want to get elected to anything! 2) Mass all ready has a state wide health care plan that's better than the piece of garbage floating around Dee Ceeve, and the liberal (communist?) side don't want to see their plan watered down. 3) The conservative (NAZI)side don't like anything happening in washington, and took the opportunity to say so. Neither side are happy with the government bailouts of wallstreet (bush) or the auto companies,(obama), and took their shot at making it known. Coakley took it for granted that she was going to win, which is almost always fatal.... As for our president???? according to the polls, most people like him. As usual, most people dislike congress in general, dems a little less disliked than the repubs..... I strongly doubt that the president is going to run away..... it saddens me to say it, but, I do believe that there are a lot of angry white folks running around frothing at the mouth at the idea of a black man as president...... we still have a long way to go (sigh)...... sorry Mark, I'll check out of here again.
Kim LaVoie
Rome, Me USA - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 18:55:40 (MST)
I hope its larry...There is also another link at the Tiger site that shows a truck that was booby traped the night before. As they hook up and start to tow if off,they find that the VC have again booby trapped the road. It goes about 20 feet before blowing up again. heck of a video. Watch the solider that has climbed up on the truck just before it blows.That may be him comming back down a few seconds later..thru the air... hard to tell.Tragic.
alvis
USA - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 17:44:30 (MST)
Mark, my friend, thats were it came from. I think Phils site might have the link already, not sure tho. Many ROKs are very eager to find "Anglo" buddies. Today, they are just as friendly as we all remember.Mark, to date the film, look for skids painted either white or yellow, you need to ask guys before me about when that happened. The rifles they carry,I didnt see any Cobras,,that in itself doesnt mean alot, but many "gunships".ID and Rank tags..somewhere along the line they went from white/black to green/black..same for the numbers on the ships.I do believe it was b4 my time..could very well be Larry,you would have a much better idea than myself. Many here have seen the video already.I hope it is.
alvis
USA - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 16:40:11 (MST)
Fred A. that is really exciting to me. Ther Korean site even list the video as 129th "Bulldog".......man oh man...............
Mark
USA - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 08:48:02 (MST)
WOW Fred, me either. I will send that video to the web master and have it added to the site. Ya know, that CC in the air at 3:03 to 3:09 segment and also at 3:15 to 3:29 sure has a great resemplance to Larry. Very, very, close resemplance..WOW Fred, thanks for this...............always a brother..............
Mark
USA - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 08:23:05 (MST)
Anything on Ray? Love-Gently
Gently
USA - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 07:14:26 (MST)
Mark, cant believe you havent added this as a link to your site here..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpMAzKEvRPU
alvis
USA - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 06:43:12 (MST)
you gotta hear this, written by a grunt,for helicopter crewmen.Warning, it may cause a lump in your throat.http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/2710930/1814533103/name/Gods
alvis
USA - Friday, January 22, 2010 at 06:34:44 (MST)
HI I got my medicare in the eighty or 90 somthing have you got a percent from the VA SS got my VA rec. wish you luck O go down to the SS office & talk with them you get a better ancer from them & I got a SS book if you want it let me know 2010 book.
Art
USA - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 22:25:09 (MST)
Thanks Art.. I had called my Congressmen's SS guy and he didn't know, spent a long time on hold with Social Security but still got a guess from them. I did not even know about being able to get Medicare until I talked to them. Was told what ever I get would continue after I turn 62 which is good to know too.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 20:12:08 (MST)
hi ken I THINK SO but let me check it out ok & I get back with you & if I can I still want to drop medicar I go to the VA for every thing so that $97.00 do me a lot better in my pocket going on two years it cost about $ 200.00 & it cost me 2000.00 out of my pocket go to the VA cost me nothing just to walk into the emergency room & I dont have no other insurance & the last time I went was when I had some cancer cut out by the VA but aftera week & a half got home & bent over I riped open about four inches then it finly heal up it about three week & had a nother one cut out & the same thing hapen but the stichers were left in for two weeks & it riped open & my daughter drove me to the VA it took about two hours.
aRT
USA - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 16:21:26 (MST)
In highscholl, i draged home a 41 ford coupe, that was an x drag car..never did anything with it tho and mom finally got tired of it sitting in the front side yard..sold it for what I bought it for..50 bucks. Big brother and I did race his 61 fuelie corvette, did between 98 and 101 @ flat 14 seconds,give or take a few 10ths any run.Would love to have it now. He bought it for 1200 bucks, sold it for the same,now worth near 100 thousand.That was all back in the mid 60s.
alvis
USA - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 16:04:56 (MST)
thats great news Dennis..am trying to do the same.
alvis
USA - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 15:59:39 (MST)
HI I glad for you Dennis & Alvis I got cd to mail you ok Friday or saturday it got 351 cd lable.
Art
USA - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 15:54:56 (MST)
Today I am in a great mood.. As of Monday I will no longer have the time to sit on the computer amd play computer games. Why, one would ask, well after 3 and 1/2 months of no job, I now have a new one and believe me at our age it's hard to find one. But no more, because as of Monday I will be the Safety Manager for a local trucking company here in Haines City. I will miss the daily logon to USAJobs.com, State of Florida.com, and last but not least, Agency for Workforce Innovation, NOT.
Moral of the story, there are jobs out there you just have to search hard and with an open mind. However, I will not miss Over the Road Truck Driving.
Dennis Fuerstenau
Haines City, FL USA - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 14:13:15 (MST)
HI I hope it dont come to that name calling & what other & I chunk this pc& if I do just BLOCK MY EMAIL ADDRESS & I want to say for give me this sight to good to let that happen.
Art
USA - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 14:07:26 (MST)
Alvis,No Paul did not tell me about the CD.I will ask him.I have been trying to find the
company pictures from 1980 when we put together the Textile Plant in Ahnsan just outside
of lane.
Jim <
Dustoff>
IL USA - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 12:40:33 (MST)
Oh no!!! Are we going to have a drag car at the campsite in Kokomo?! Is that what we're leading up to here. LOL! L-Gently
Gently
USA - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 09:32:43 (MST)
Awe gesh Fred A...yeah man, that drag racing video was cool. We had a local strip around here back then. Kettlersville drag strip was just a paved area out in the fields. Every Thursday and Saterday night that's what we did. Headed to the drags. If ya wanted to, as we did, take the ole' mans car out there, pop off the hub caps and lift the hood on that 57 Ford, it opened in the rear as you recall, and pay to run it that night. Put the hub caps back on and head home. The smell of burnt rubber seem to make a hotdog taste better back then.Shoot, we even would take our dates out there....don't ya just miss that kinda stuff sometimes. QUESTION, anybody here ever have a drag car. I know Glenn Paremain did and still does..............alwaya a brother..................
Mark
USA - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 09:20:17 (MST)
Fred S and Art and anybody. Venting your feelings here about the current status of the nation is ok with me, but when it turns into a discussion, or a dabate here, well then that's what we, I say again, "WE", don't want on here. So far all is well ;-)). Does that make sense? I guess anybody could come in here and say anything they wan't to and I couldn't stop them other than having that post deleted. I just think that that kinda stuff can be discussed in the apropriate forums and there are planty of them out there on the web. I belong to a discussion board on a Marine site and it gets so heated that guys are name calling and even threatening each other. We don't want that now do we? As I have said, I really do, with all my heart, apprieciate all in here respecting my request to leave it to the other sites to entertain that type of dicussion..............always a brother....................
Mark
USA - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 08:42:15 (MST)
http://www.youtube.com/user/biscaynenick .....If you remember drag racing from the late 60s,421 pontics,gto's,old time,straight axle gassers,413 and hemi cry/doges/ply.,427 fairlanes and other fords,427 and 409 chevys,you might want to click on that link.It did bring a smile to my face,its old time drag racing at its best..back when you could stand on the starting line,drinking beer,ect,lol. great clips.
alvis
USA - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 08:41:19 (MST)
Jim, I keep meaning to ask you if you are aware that Paul has a homemade video/CD on the medivac unit across the hill, that you both spent time with.
alvis
USA - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 07:56:03 (MST)
I would say rejected is a better word instead of politics. I knew guys who never even went to Nam who didn't want to say they were in the military back in the 60s - 70s! Even now we still have people who think those in the military are screwed up. Yet we are the guys who are there helping others around the world while the world forgets that.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 07:26:58 (MST)
HI Fred I get the same way I let my mouth in gear befor my brain & when I did work had some of the guys I work with started jurking my cord they say babby killer & I came close to killing a guy so the boss sead he half to let me go & I was leaving then he called me back he told me would you mind sand blasting in the boilers I told him ok with me so I did that to I tried to end it all & people just dont know bad it was for us over in nam & what we broght home bottle up in us & got treated like shit like we were the scum of the earth this country is in bad shape you wright one of the gys sead that we NAM VET maid it better for them for all the biching to the VA so I glad we dun somthing good for are BROTHER & SISTER in the service now that they get better care I just wish that all VA would be the same Tuskegee they go out of there way to help VETS BUT THERE IS ONE THING i AM PROUD TO SAY I A VIET NAM VET.
Art
USA - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 21:25:04 (MST)
Fred S. God bless you for what you are doing, if you go there take care of yourselves. though retired, i would need a couple of nurses just to care for me so the best i can do is donate some $ & im doin that now.>>>>>> respects to all>>>>> smitty
jim westwang 71-72
sheridan, wyoming USA - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 20:59:07 (MST)
Art....Please don`t take it like that.....You say what you feel.....I just get upset with the way things are going in this country. Mark gets pissed off at me, more than likely. But he gets over it quick..........I think!!!!.....NO Art, you say what`s on your mind, you "paid foward" 40 some years ago.......That is your "right" to say what you want to say. And Jim(Dust-off), I`ve been here for a while, but I cause "uproars" sometimes with my statements........I don`t mean to hurt anyone.....I just have alot of passion, about how I feel.........
Fred Skaggs
Annandale, NJ USA - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 20:46:30 (MST)
Fred,welcome to the group,I am also a latte drinking,meat lover,Jeep driveing Libral.See you in Kokomo.
Jim <
Dustoff>
IL USA - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 19:32:08 (MST)
HI Alvis OI send you one ok & it seem like I just cant do eany thing wright so I keep my mouth closed for now on.
Art
USA - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 19:08:12 (MST)
Art, since you had to bring up politics........I`ll just get straight to the point.....When I was in college.....I had a Economics Prof.....That predicted , our generation would be "overlooked" when it came to leadership in this country.....Think about it....Friggin John Kerry ran for President....Viet-Nam Vet.......He got beat buy a "draft dodger" Bush.......Bush was a draft dodger every sense of the words......Then we have John McCain........Friggin Naval Academy grad....POW.....and the public said "F. U." John McCain........Think about it Art........On both sides we lost.......So what does that tell you....... The general public doesn`t want to hear or never cared about who we are as Nam Viets.......They`re just waiting for us all to die...........We are a part of history that this country wants "done".......Let me tell you about something that happen maybe 15 years ago..........Back in the day, I was sitting in a bar, you know.....I was busting some beers......and I caught a conversation going on between a few "yuppies".......They were talking about how "Veterans" had always got "10" points extra on "Civil Service" tests........Oh Yea......BUT...They went on to say how most Nam Viets were guys who were "to stupid" to go to college and we had no other choice in life......This is what some people think of us.........Make no mistake Art.......I hate those type people......They don`t deserve to breath to same air as I do......And Art..... you think Mass election sent message?........All that happen was a "arrogant Democratic" thought they had it in the bag....that`s it.........And don`t forget Art.......I`m a "Latte drinkin, gun toting, meat eating, Jeep driving LIBERAL"...............................................................Sorry Mark....I`m VERY emotional tonight......
Fred Skaggs
Annandale, NJ USA - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 18:51:25 (MST)
opps, ment Art, sorry bout that. Art, if you will, send me one as well. thanks buddy,fred
alvis
USA - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 18:42:22 (MST)
here you go big Jim...Jae-sung Chung.... (..= next line)..6th fl. Dongsan Building,287-6....Jangan 2 Dong,Dongdaemun-Gu,.....Seoul,South Korea 130-838...
ALVIS
USA - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 18:40:57 (MST)
Art, the address for the ROKS site is < http://www.vietvet.co.kr/us/us.htm > go there and click on the "FREE BOARD" link. That will take you to the posting board. Fred Alvis may have a mailing address though. How you doing today brother?
....................
Mark
USA - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 17:12:19 (MST)
HI Flight what the email address for the ROK I like to send them a cd of the 129th that Glenda maid ok
Art
USA - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 13:40:17 (MST)
Gail, I emailed you the other day...please email me about Ray...or call. He's in our prayers. If he can get phone calls please let us know the number and also the addy for cards of support. Long Distance calls are free for hinm to make....he just has to ask....they won't just tell you that. Damn! Pleasee keep all of us updated. L-Gently
gently
USA - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 11:14:02 (MST)
Jae, the english side web master, for the ROK Tiger Div. web site,is now on his way ,with a handful of other Nam Vet ROKS, to Vietnam.he said he is going to Quin Hon, Tuy Hoa,Nha Trang, and Siagon.I told him dont buy any watches or sun glasses.He says he will take plenty of pics.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 01:12:55 (MST)
HI LOOK LIKE MASS SHOW THE DEC.THAY BETTER WATCH OUT & that go for are grate leader They can still get it throw by doing it under the table but if they do the shit will hit the fan & so let see what they do.
Art
USA - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 20:08:53 (MST)
HI I hate them but holes they would never lower them self to do what you did & we dont get a little for you do & that US VET dont get no more money for TWO YEARS & the same with SS but they get one every year the sory sack of shit if it wasent the guys like you they would not be ware they are & they pat you on the back when they get ware they are & after that they dont know you & could care less about you to it time to be put a nother turm promis you every thing get back in & you get nothing lose some of what you had & what might make some mad but I am tired of geting nothing & they get every thing they be glad when we all are put in the ground & you can look back at how they treated the WW1 VET promis them money well you know they put one hand under there but & one out in the air & see what fils up first are GOV. ben screwing VET & will keep on doing it.
ART
USA - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 18:09:21 (MST)
Just remember youdid the right thing, there are always clowns like them around, plenty of them..
Gary Mount
USA - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 17:52:02 (MST)
sounds about right Fred S. Surprised the local politicans didnt show as well.Just remember, your doing a good thing brother.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 17:20:42 (MST)
Boy swear it never stops.......myself and 3 co-workers, collected and stacked and packed 3 semi-truck loads of things needed it Haiti........Because two of my co-workers lived through earthqakes in South America...they KNOW what the needs are. All of us got our "shot records" in order, so if we could go to Haiti....We would be ready......We came to work this morning...and there was all these friggin elected officals in "blue jeans" , standing by the semi-trailers, for their "photo opts". They were acting like they were "packing the trailer" Plus they are "escorting" the trailers down to McGuire AFB.........So for all our hard work and emotions........My 37 year old CEO, said he would, " Pay you guys overtime".........
Fred Skaggs
Annandale, NJ USA - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 15:51:24 (MST)
Hi All, got news today from Social Security even if I don't get it. Question, I filed in Sept 2005 but the Judge decided I was not fully disabiled till Jan 1st, 2008. Does that mean I still get what I would have gotten back in the beginning or do they redo it based on income till the end of 2007? I just want to be done with that whole mess.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 14:04:09 (MST)
Gently; cookies were mailed this am. should have in 2 days.ART; mailed you a game for josh
paul mcgrath
USA - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 13:30:04 (MST)
Alvis, still laughing over the lawyer that had his hand in his own pocker, gotta remember thatone, speaing of layers, will have a big to do here in Lubbock, tomorrow, on the Mike Leach case, our Prior coach of the Red Raiders for Texas Tech that was fired the 30th. of Dec. , willl be suing the state of Texas and Tech for personal damages and Slander HE was fired and not able to defend himself, lots of corruption , surrronding this case, Tech Regents and other have soveirgn immunity and are appointed by the governor, untouchable, the local paper is in T echs back pocket reminds me of so much of things in the past, biased media, people that were untouchable and immune and not able to do nothing, people making decisions that were incompetent,etc, Coach Leach did a lot for Tech and was railroaded, just wanted to speak out and rant I guess, what a sad, corrupt world we live in, glad I have you guys as brothers, God Help us.. Tex 70-71 d/g 1st. flt. plt.
Gary Mount
USA - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 13:24:06 (MST)
Found a site that has a ton of Information and want to share it with everyone.
VET's, especially Viet Nam era Veterans. Someone sent me the link below
which is a virtual wall of all those lost during the Viet Nam war with the
names, bio's and other information on our lost comrades. It is a very
interesting link, and those who served in that timeframe and lost friends or
family can look them up on this site. Pass it on to other veterans
who you think would like this.
First
click on a state......then when it opens .........a
name.......then it should show ya a
picture of the person or at least his bio and
medals...... .......http://www.virtualwall.org/iStates.htm
Jim <
Dustoff>
IL USA - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 12:28:02 (MST)
Yeah dave do that. We have a 129th yahoo site < http://groups.yahoo.com/group/129thahc/ > where you can post photos on. Take care brother..........
Mark
USA - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 11:26:59 (MST)
Mark, thanks for the link but I don't have an account for Yahoo... guess I'll have to sign up!
Dave Powers
USA - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 07:56:31 (MST)
Art, I read that ONE nanogram of Dioxen,injested somehow into the body,would be in our tissues until the day we die.That aint much brother.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 06:32:52 (MST)
HI Alvis that somthing you dont see at all & well go to the VA tommorw two time a week for how long I dont know last week they took Xray of my neck & sholders The agent orange up that far they think it help slow it down some &I hope it works I got my grandson to teach him how to do things for his mother when I go to be with GLENDA but for know got to show him how to do thing around the house & he know how to use a screwdriver & plyers & some hand tools this little guy learns quick his dad dont know how to wipe his one but & when he stay over night I put a 1/2 peace of ply wood on the bath room so if he fall asleap on the thrown wont punch a hole in the wall like befor & I timed him one day it took him about 30 seckents go out & just think if I gave him just one thing I take he put ripvan winkel to shame for the longes time a sleep.
Art
USA - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 22:26:42 (MST)
its so cold here, I saw a lawyer with his hand in his own pocket.
alvis
USA - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 20:50:02 (MST)
Art, that is hard to loose dogs that been with ya a long time. Sorry to hear bout that. Take care of yourself Art.......
Mark
USA - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 20:32:04 (MST)
HI flight well got to eat some food to day I had somthing growing in my mouth it went into my gums & the bones in my mouth liquid for two weeks & I lost one of my dog last night she was 10 years old & know I hope the other does not die if I took one in the house the other would not eat or drink to they got back together I am going to try to get a nother one & hope it works.
Art
USA - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 20:14:52 (MST)
Hey Dave, also at this address < http://groups.yahoo.com/group/129thahc/photos/album/1738683896/pic/list > is a photo of Lane taken 2005 from the Terra Server satilite that I purchased. It appears to me that terra's image is clearer then Google Earthe's but both are cool to look at. Some that were at Kokomo thgis year will remember the Terra photos I had hanging in the LZ. I will also bring them to all gatherings from now on..........
Mark
USA - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 18:56:03 (MST)
In case you missed this, here are Google Earth lat/longs for Lane AHP. 13d48’06.23”N, 109d05’50.50”E. I noticed that there are some structures on the north side that appear to still be there from when we were there… most others are gone. Other airfields are still very visible on Google Earth, like Qui Nhon and Phu Cat. Google Earth has the capability of full 3D… I found an old picture of Lane approaching it from the northeast. I then rotated the Google Earth image around to match the angle of the approach, and it’s surprisingly clear what was there, and what isn’t any longer. Interesting...
Dave Powers
USA - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 16:45:50 (MST)
HI flight I was thinking it would be like that the hell with the little people that got to beg for what they want & the higher class look down there nose they should drag them out & let the pore people clean them out but them people have there thugs to beat the little people & even kill them just like some here that look down there nose at people like us they give there owne every thing & I know going with out food & I would do with out so my wife & daughter would have.
Art
USA - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 16:36:07 (MST)
just returned from my 3 weeks out. After Texas,I arrived in Calif the 31st and spent the rest of the time running north to south out there, from San Diego to portland oragon. Came home via a load out of Salt Lake City.Thinking of quitting Schnieder and going with someone that will get me home more often. San Francisco was cool,but recieved a ticket cause I didnt have the cash ( debit and credit cards not accepted)to cross the Oakland Bay Bridge, at the toll booth. Lol.Twas 11.25 for a semi to cross..I sent the ticket to Schneider, lol. Been seeing some great country.Kim, was up your way couple of months ago,at Skowhagen again..yes it was snowing.Jim W.,ran across the bottom of Wyoming,was hoping to get up your way again for some more coffee with you. Go Colts.
alvis
USA - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 15:36:14 (MST)
Pilferage by the wrong people who are scared that there will not be enough to for them and theirs.Also makes a good Black market business.That country is one of the most backward places on earth.The us has been supporting them for years and furnishing advisers
to help them enter the rest of the worlds market.60% is uneducated,and the other 40% keep
the 60% down so they can take advantage of them and control them.
jim <
Dustoff>
IL USA - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 14:00:53 (MST)
Wonder why they didnt drop food and water by parachute into areas they couldnt get to, or load up a carrier with Seaknights and chinoooks and black hawks to drop supplies into places they couldnt get too, could hane done that at the Superdome? Dont understand it do you?
Gary Mount
USA - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 13:21:48 (MST)
Our prayers are with the people of Haiti, reminds me of New Orleans,such a tragedy, God help them...
Gary Mount
USA - Monday, January 18, 2010 at 12:36:47 (MST)
I am sure you all are watching what is going on in Haiti and I know all our hearts are going out to those who are there. Again it is an example of how badly things can get & is no ones fault but have to wonder how the news media can be all over the place. One I am sure that took up spots at the airport that could have been used for the ones there to help. Just hope they get it together soon before the whole place breaks down if that is possible. We know our troops can get a job done if they just let them do it. I pray for all those who are there!
Ken Strong Jr.
Lafayette, IN USA - Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 08:45:46 (MST)
Gail: I appreciate you posting about Ray. He called me at work on Tuesday. He told me about the time he was at the hospital last week and what for. And, he didn't think he could go on much longer. I tried calling but, no answer on weds or thurs. A load was taken off my mind when you called to let me know where was. I have told him on several conversations to get away from the consuler he was seeing. He goes down hill every time he talks to this guy. Ray's in our thoughts and prayers. Liz and I are here for both of you. Cupp's once again glad your ok! Always A Brother!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 11:22:58 (MST)
HI every one I wish they go back & do it like the doc would tell you they thort you wewr ready to go home & the longest time I was in was 1/2 year the doc name was Mohand but now they only heep you a couple weeks & that not wright & PTSD group three time a week & it help & that DOC would see you & he know had ptsd & he let the doc know if he wanter you to put you in his groupe & you best not skip a meeting so that how come I hope RAY get a good doc.
Art
USA - Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 10:04:15 (MST)
HI every one I put RAY ON prayer line at church & I hope he get a good doc too & Gale is one good wife & she need praer too.
Art
USA - Friday, January 15, 2010 at 21:51:56 (MST)
HI every one I put RAY ON prayer line at church & I hope he get a good doc too & Gale is one good wife & she need praer too.
Art
USA - Friday, January 15, 2010 at 21:51:05 (MST)
Gail, where is the VA that Ray is at?????
Mark
USA - Friday, January 15, 2010 at 19:55:10 (MST)
Gail, Let me add, and I'm sure Jim W. will agree that 99% of the VA medical staff I worked or associated with were competent professionals and very dedicated to our vets. As in any organization there are always a few.
For Fred Skaggs: Make sure, if you go to Haiti you wear a mask, gloves etc. It is going to be a cesspool of infection before long. I admire your effort! Just be careful.
Snapper
Jeff Sauers
USA - Friday, January 15, 2010 at 18:44:19 (MST)
Gail, We have never met but as Jim W. says I also worked for the VA. Even tho I spent most of my time in infectious diseases I finished out my career in psych. Not being familiar with Ray's case, other than what I've read here I will only add that the FIRST priority is to get him over the suicidal ideations he is having. That has to be accomplished prior to any other program. There are many available that may be appropriate depending on the diagnosis. Feel free to e-mail me at cats3@adelphia.net.
Jeff Sauers
Lake Norman, NC USA - Friday, January 15, 2010 at 18:30:04 (MST)
Gail thank you for keeping us posted. I hope you & Ray find the good doctors at the VA there. I am still upset with them from the way they treat some of us while wondering how they keep their jobs. Now my heart is there for Ray and hoping they can do something to help him back on track.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Friday, January 15, 2010 at 17:15:56 (MST)
Our thoughts and prayers are with you and yours, Ray..
Gary Mount
USA - Friday, January 15, 2010 at 16:28:06 (MST)
Gail, sorry to hear that!! I know the last time I talked to him, that he was getting depressed. I have been "on the road" lately and don't know if he tried getting me on "messenger" or not. I hope he is doing better and that now that they have driven him to where he is, that they will wake up and get to fixing his problems instead of giving him the "run around"!! My thoughts and prayers are with him and you.. Let me know if I can help.. Love and best wished to you... Ksl...>>>
Kal
USA - Friday, January 15, 2010 at 15:51:14 (MST)
Gail, Our prayers are with you & Ray. I worked on psych at the VA 20 years & most are able to find some sort of help. Jeff Sauers ( Snapper) would be a good source of info too>Love & prayers> Jim & Linda
jim westwang
sheridan, wyoming USA - Friday, January 15, 2010 at 15:30:40 (MST)
Our prayers and thoughts are with Ray! Bill & Kat
Bill Wolf
USA - Friday, January 15, 2010 at 12:46:56 (MST)
Hello Flight,
I wanted to let all of Ray's brothers know that he made an attempt on his life on Sunday. After being released from the hospital he continued to talk about "trying again" I took him to the VA Psych on Wednesday and they admitted him. I hope that they can find help for him. Ray said that he may be in their for at least a month. Please keep him in your prayers.
Gail
e-mail (Dakotadrm51@yahoo.com)
Gail Gagner <
Dakotadrm51@yahoo.com>
Street, Md USA - Friday, January 15, 2010 at 04:32:10 (MST)
Hello all. I am going to the Wall in the first of feburary and would like anyone that wants to meet there. I will be there two days. Date is to if any want to meet. Just an idea if you don't then you don't
me
Shorty <
boling7461@msn.com>
Bellingham, was USA - Thursday, January 14, 2010 at 21:46:20 (MST)
Hey Fred, if you go down there stay in touch if you can and let us know how it's going..............speaking of Freds......Alvis, you out there man???/....................
Mark
USA - Thursday, January 14, 2010 at 19:31:11 (MST)
HI I just let Richard Crash know that cups is ok he will be glad to hear it.
Art
USA - Thursday, January 14, 2010 at 16:51:34 (MST)
HI CUP was good at geting throw things glad he hear you are OK.
Art
USA - Thursday, January 14, 2010 at 16:34:13 (MST)
I KNEW.....Cups would be allright......Fuggeddaboudit!!!....He`s a 129th Bulldog.....BTW my church I work for here in Jersey, has lost some members of their "mission" in Mirebalais, Haiti.....Most of our Assisted Living Quarters...Nursing Aides are Haitian folks and most of our Food Services employees......SO.....I`ve been ask if I`ll go down to Haiti if needed, I`m not a member of the church, but this isn`t about religion, or politics........it`s about being human......SO Cups, if I get down there,...they(the church) are trying to work with the Dominican`s to get some "heavy equipment" to use.......look for me on a back-hoe or bulldozer....I`ll wearing a hard hat or Cleveland Indians basball cap , turned backwards.....
Fred Skaggs
Annandale, NJ USA - Thursday, January 14, 2010 at 16:33:11 (MST)
P;ease keep us informed, Cups,about you and your family and friends my prayers are with you and yours, always a brother, Tex 70-71
Gary Mount
USA - Thursday, January 14, 2010 at 15:02:35 (MST)
Good Deal Cups.......so great to hear from you again. Now, how about Darwin "Flame".....you still out there brother??..................
Mark
USA - Thursday, January 14, 2010 at 09:13:25 (MST)
Flight: Ray Gagner called Tuesday on my cell. Sounded all druged up. He tolded me he OD on some of his medication and was in the hospital about a week ago. I tried calling him on the home phone and his cell yesterday and this morning but, no answer. Don't Know what to think. Cupps, our prayers were answered when I seen your post. as soon as Barry and I seen the news. you were the first person we thought of. Hope to see you a reunion again before I get to old. HA! Always A Brother!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Thursday, January 14, 2010 at 08:25:16 (MST)
I guess I didn't read close enuff. Looks like you are in Florida now. Good to hear.....take care.
Gale
USA - Thursday, January 14, 2010 at 06:36:06 (MST)
Cups, We're all glad to hear that you are ok. Looks like a real mess down there. If there's anything the 129th family can do for you....please let us know. Gale
Gale
USA - Thursday, January 14, 2010 at 06:33:39 (MST)
Gently, Jeff, Gale, Gary, Mark.....All, Thanks for the thoughts. I'm okay, safe here in the Gator Country. I'll try to get back soon. Trying to make contact with friends and family. Pray
Thanks again,
Cups
Jim Masencup <
JimAntilleanM@netscape.net>
Gainesville, FL USA - Thursday, January 14, 2010 at 06:10:48 (MST)
Are you ok, cups,we are thinking of youandpraying youre ok.
GARY MOUNT
USA - Wednesday, January 13, 2010 at 20:14:38 (MST)
Bill Wolf what are you doing in Tustin, CA? It's been 40 some years since I saw you in Vietnam?
John Sartor <
sartor_john@yahoo.com>
Oceanside, CA USA - Wednesday, January 13, 2010 at 15:52:50 (MST)
I was wondering about Cups also. Let's pray that we hear from him soon. Cups, you out there? We're worried about you! Love Gently
Gently
USA - Wednesday, January 13, 2010 at 07:51:31 (MST)
With this earthquake down in Haiti I was wondering about our brother Jim Masencup. Anybody ever heard from him in awhile? Last I knew , that is where he was..........also wondering if "Flame" ( Darwin Schmiedt ) still reads the Flight Log. He and Cups where friends in Nam.....................
Mark
USA - Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 19:16:57 (MST)
HI my DAD worked in canada some place he took photo of how deep the snow was you could stack car ten high & not reach the top & I wish I had them photo now & when I was little in Rhode Island are porch roof was 12 ft. off the ground we open a windo to get onto the roof & jump in & go out of sight about the third time well some one would get on to us & we got are but tore up big time & if we had to go to town we grave a ride on the back bumper of some one going that way & it was hell on your pants & legs when you hit abare spot & you know you were in for a good but wippen & we go & do it again we were having a good time I like to back then & do it again growing up was the best of my life & just think what we did. WE ride two on a bike one on the handle bars & some time the guy on the bars would put his foot in the front wheel spokes & flight time you role down the road & tare your self up bad & you got the bike home & hunted for a nother rim could not do with out a bike that was your wheels to you got a car & the first car I got was a 50 pontiac & change how it looked I put a nash grill the one that had the bars runing up & down the guy asked me when did you do that it look good & some more to the car O my uncel gave it to me for working on his house from start to ware he could move in he was my best uncle he died when I was 19 or 20 it hurt & he was my best friend
Art
USA - Monday, January 11, 2010 at 20:56:04 (MST)
Ken, I'll try and call you tomorrow.....gezzz Robbie, that's a lots a snow..........
Mark
USA - Monday, January 11, 2010 at 19:11:49 (MST)
Kal, I guess Scottsdale is a good place to be now. I had over 44 inches here in 5 days. (Damn Lake effect snow from Ontario). I was blowing snow for 3 hours each day after work just to clean up around here. Sun is out today and we might get a small warm up to 32 Degrees soon. Art, sorry, not sending any, but feel free to come and get some to take back.
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Monday, January 11, 2010 at 08:39:52 (MST)
Mark & Ron Paye I had wrote you guys emails about Kokomo but now heard back. So if you see this please let me know. My phone number is 765-538-2273 and am home pretty much all the time if you didn't get them & don't know mine. ken7776 at aol.com if you write. It sort of sounds like Kokomo is becoming too big for it's own good.
Ken Strong Jr.
Lafayette, IN USA - Monday, January 11, 2010 at 08:18:33 (MST)
A special Happy New Years wish to Dave Powers. I sliped away for awhile and I lost your # and I was hoping you might still be here.
Jesse Hancock <
jessehancock68@yahoo.com>
Fairview, OR USA - Sunday, January 10, 2010 at 16:49:03 (MST)
HI ship some down here but just at my house Josh love snow but the people cant drive in it we had just turend the ground white & they closed the schools & when I was going to school it had to be clouse to 3 ft. & then I went out & shoveled it & maid money.
Art
USA - Sunday, January 10, 2010 at 13:25:38 (MST)
Hi Robbie!! 64.9 here in Scottsdale, AZ...Got here Friday afternoon and it is shortsleeves outside.. We had 20 inches when we left home and don't miss it at all!!
C Ya L8r... Think Atlanta in June.....
Kal
USA - Sunday, January 10, 2010 at 12:29:25 (MST)
5 degrees in upstate NY this morning. I've got more than enough snow if anyone wants to stop up and get some. I would ask Wink if he wants some, but I think he's got some ice down there. Haven't seen the sun in quite some time now. Weather men say maybe today.
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Sunday, January 10, 2010 at 07:11:48 (MST)
Mark, hope you got your book via UPS...let me know. If there is anyone else who was supposed to get a book and didn't - let me know. I'm juggling between my home in Colorado (where the books are) and living in my RV in Tustin, CA so its been a bit disorganized. I still have about half a dozen books left (w/o dvd). Remember, all cost of the book ($35) goes to the 129th fund that Gently manages! Once they are gone - they are gone. Hope all of you back east are staying safe and warm. Its a frigid 71 here in Tustin today, but Kat and I are surviving! Love ya all! Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Saturday, January 09, 2010 at 11:40:03 (MST)
Ken, I brought my chain bracelet home with me. I put it away, but, after two divorces and lots of moving around............well, it can't be found. Bummer! How much for a membership at Kokomo?
Gale
USA - Saturday, January 09, 2010 at 08:16:40 (MST)
Comment on Tail Rotor chains after twelve years in the Army I had found they were few and far between. I think most Huey's shot down in the 129th managed to be returned to service. So if it wasn't broke it didn't get replaced. Some would snap on impack and those would be saved. Still most of the ones out there were just worn out, # of teeth per inch. Last of all they stopped using them later as replaced with a bike type chain. Lets say there are many thousands out there because they were not thrown away but only got my hands on one in twelve years. Way more people wanting them than chains plus they lasted quite a long time!
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Saturday, January 09, 2010 at 07:53:45 (MST)
Tail Rotor Chain from a Huey is what I am searching for. I need one for a vet who was a door gunner with the 116th hornets. "What did you do when your ship went down? We became infantry."
Howling Moose <
moose_howling@yahoo.com>
Balto., MD USA - Saturday, January 09, 2010 at 05:33:03 (MST)
HI Alix Auto zone has a good thing going here if you need a tool you can get one from them that I like & I like doing my owe work & I know they do some things & went to the other guy advance thort I had generator iner miting they told me it was bad so had them order a new one & left then I seen Auto zone stop & asked them to check it & it was good & a Girl check it & told me that they did not put one of the clamp around both battery cable that how come it show bad then she sad at the same time battery has a short in itso got a new one.
Art
USA - Friday, January 08, 2010 at 20:25:46 (MST)
Gently:I called and had the room for Lambeau in my name. Well a dusting of snow here. The temps only 17 for a high. Chill factor -5. a few more days of this. By, next week close to 50's. Not, used to the cold anymore. Gale: Liz and I will be coming in either weds. or thurs. The friday night pizza for the 129th sounds good. Hope to get a good turn out in Atlanta. We need to get some new 129th family whom never been to a VHCMA reunion. The bigger the group to be sure of getting us a room. Still working alot of overtime. Lucky!! Froze my hind end off the last few days putting in batteries. Anyone who has been to Autozone know we install batteries outside in front of the store. Always A Brother!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Friday, January 08, 2010 at 16:09:24 (MST)
HI every one it still goes 2 bed roomif some one want one in about 45 menets or so can be there OK.
Art
USA - Friday, January 08, 2010 at 15:19:42 (MST)
Cold & snowy here in Indiana....hope everyone is keeping warm! I just made our reservations for LZ Atlanta. We'll arrive there Wednesday evening, June 16th. I hope we all agree on the Friday night gathering in the 129th AHC hospitality room with our own pizza (or whatever).I vote to do our own thing on Friday evening.
Gale
USA - Friday, January 08, 2010 at 13:57:39 (MST)
My room is Mother ;-))
Mark
USA - Friday, January 08, 2010 at 09:07:52 (MST)
Happy Birthday Jim! See you in May! Make sure your reservation is confirmed on youyr own credit cards...you also Paul, Alex and Mark. Rick, I'll call you tonight. Love-Gently
Gently
USA - Thursday, January 07, 2010 at 11:46:36 (MST)
Combat Casualty Report (21 May 1968)
Regarding: SP5 Victor Roman Heesacker
On May 21, 1968, an OH-23G "Raven" assigned to Company B "Aeroscout", 123rd Combat Aviation Battalion, AMERICAL Division was conducting an armed aerial reconnaissance in the Divisional AO. The unit was based at the Ky Ha Heliport on the Chu Lai Combat Base in the I Corps Region. The crew consisted of then First Lieutenant Bill Staffa as pilot, SP4 Britlow was a combat experienced aeroscout observer, sat in the left seat of the aircraft. The crew chief was SP4 Victor Roman Heesacker, who was an experienced Huey Crew chief (MOS 67N20) was sitting in the rear compartment. Heesacker had recently been assigned to the unit, having been with the aviation maintenance section in the support battalion of the 11th Infantry Brigade at Duc Pho. This is just and example. Ask your service officer for or way to get your DD215 it will show your crew members wings on it.
Flight be careful out there
Rick England
USA - Thursday, January 07, 2010 at 04:47:49 (MST)
HI Gary LT. BRAGUE is now in a better place than we are & you get to see him again.
Art
USA - Wednesday, January 06, 2010 at 19:49:26 (MST)
SLOW HAND SALUTE TO YOR COUSIN AND OUR BROTHER, LT. BRAGUE, GOD REST YOUR SOUL, TEX 70-71
GARY MOUNT
USA - Wednesday, January 06, 2010 at 18:48:52 (MST)
HI Flight There was no one man to put the ship flying it took every one doing there job & it had to be that way or the ship would not get off the ground & think about it.
Art
USA - Wednesday, January 06, 2010 at 18:30:18 (MST)
Thanks Alex I know they have me down in one part as being a helicopter repairman then on another page said I worked on the flight line I guess them things flew themselves, you said once before that it was hard to get anything for hearing in Tenn Take Care PS Say Hi to Liz.
Don McCort
USA - Wednesday, January 06, 2010 at 18:16:42 (MST)
hi well 5 of 9 smoke alarms went out still had 3 working so called the compenty & thay asked me how long have you had them 2000 & sead they only last about 7 years you were lucky the one I got are wired together & one go off they all go off so at $10.00 for one that still cheaper than the other kind so they are coming if this place start burning I want to know even got a role up ladder it the bed room it for Josh to make shore he get out ok I love that little guy.
Art
USA - Wednesday, January 06, 2010 at 14:46:38 (MST)
Late Birthday greetings to Jim Hydinger of the 1966 group. Time has flown by. Don mc Court. Were in Tennesse. The people in nashville don't believe in compensating vietnam vets. I was turned down twice for the ringing in my ears. I went as far as to send a copy of a military finding on hearing and the efects such as tenninitius. Nashville laughed!! I found out that they look at your mos. Helicopter repairman. But, there isn't an mos for a crewchief!!! Even though it's supposed to be the same VA nation wide. The beneifits are judged different in other states. It's a real screwed up system in Tn. Your closer to Nashville and the VA there. My c&p hearing. was a joke. They glance at your file and ask a few questions and then you sit and wait. Tn. is good at denying claims. I know Brothers here in Memphis that after 10 years of trying only got 20%. But, you have to keep trying. Joe Nicolish is a good example. Until he moved to Ill. nothing I believe and after awhile in Ill. he finally started to get his ratings. Always A Brother!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Wednesday, January 06, 2010 at 12:46:29 (MST)
Foster, slow hand salute rendered to your cousin Edwin. Thanks for making the entry here..........always a brother..........
Mark
USA - Wednesday, January 06, 2010 at 10:03:11 (MST)
SLOW HAND SALUTE IN MEMORY OF 1ST. LT. EDWIN S. BRAGUE JR. KILLED IN ACTION 1-7-67. HE WAS A PILOT WITH THE 129TH. AHC. MAY HE AND ALL OTHERS WHO GAVE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE REST IN PEACE. GOD BLESS TO ALL WHO SERVED ON ACTIVE DUTY AND THE MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM SEREVING PRESENTLY.MESSAGE SUBMITTED BY GY/SGT BRAGUE USMC RET. VIETNAM 1966-69.FIRST COUSIN OF LT. BRAGUE--SEMPER FI.
FOSTER W.BRAGUE <
sereno451@verizon.net>
PLAINS, PA USA - Wednesday, January 06, 2010 at 09:59:02 (MST)
Thanks for the responce Dustoff Jim amd Sue the rest ?
Don
USA - Tuesday, January 05, 2010 at 19:32:21 (MST)
Gently;that is an error on my part as i was in nevada the middle of december.i will rectify that situation asap.just before i left i remember seeing a post about rooms in green bay but can't find the post.is that still on or what is up with that? i called and confirmed the room on my credit card.one order of peanut butter cookieswill be on its way as soon as possible.
paul mcgrath
USA - Tuesday, January 05, 2010 at 14:45:50 (MST)
Hey Lou.......great to hear from you. Hope you get feeling better soon. Would be fantastic to meet you at the reunion. Either Atlanta or kokomo, or both..........maybe even LZ Lambo....you take care brother................always a brother........
Mark
USA - Tuesday, January 05, 2010 at 11:40:08 (MST)
Hi Flight, been under the weather for a couple of months, hope everyone is well and wish you all a Happy New Year, and hope to make it to reunion this year
lourags1 <
lourags1@aol.com>
Dover, De USA - Monday, January 04, 2010 at 18:37:13 (MST)
Advise for Backlash,Not sure how many non-military civilians read this site.But his prose might be better heard or taken to heart by the many News Papers in America or on the Web.Seems like he wants to start off the new year with an ASS KICKEN.There is enought hatred in this world to go around for everybody.
Jim <
Dustoff>
IL USA - Monday, January 04, 2010 at 18:04:58 (MST)
HI bBack lash I like to have first shotat are grait leader it would be worth going to jail for.
Art
USA - Monday, January 04, 2010 at 14:29:58 (MST)
Rules for Kickin' Ass
Rules for the Non-Military
Make sure you read #13
Dear Civilians, 'We know that the current state of affairs in our great nation has many civilians up in arms and excited to join the military.
For those of you who can’t join, you can still lend a hand. Here are a few of the areas where we would like your assistance:
1. The next time you see any adults talking (or wearing a hat) during the playing of the National Anthem - kick their ass.
2.. When you witness, firsthand, someone burning the American Flag in protest - kick their ass.
3. Regardless of the rank they held while they served, pay the highest amount of respect to all veterans. If you see anyone doing otherwise, quietly pull them aside and explain how these veterans fought for the very freedom they bask in every second. Enlighten them on the many sacrifices these veterans made to make this Nation great. Then hold them down while a disabled veteran kicks their ass.
4. If you were never in the military, DO NOT pretend that you were. Wearing battle dress uniforms (BDUs) or Jungle Fatigues, telling others that you used to be 'Special Forces'. Collecting GI Joe memorabilia, might have been okay when you were seven years old, now, it will only make you look stupid and get your ass kicked.
5. Next time you come across an *Air Force* member, do not ask them, 'Do you fly a jet?' Not everyone in the Air Force is a pilot. Such ignorance deserves an ass-kicking (children are exempt).
6. If you witness someone calling the *US Coast Guard* 'non-military', inform them of their mistake - and kick their ass.
7. Next time Old Glory (the US flag) prances by during a parade, get on your damn feet and pay homage to her by placing your hand over your heart. Quietly thank the military member or veteran lucky enough to be carrying her - of course, failure to do either of those could earn you a severe ass-kicking.
8. 'Your mama wears combat boots' never made sense to me - stop saying it! If she did, she would most likely be a vet and therefore would kick your ass!
9. Bin Laden and the Taliban are not Communists, so stop saying 'Let's go kill those Commies!' And stop asking us where he is! Crystal balls are not standard issue in the military. That reminds me - if you see anyone calling those damn psychic phone numbers, let me know, so I can go kick their ass!
10. 'Flyboy' (*Air Force*), 'Jarhead' (*Marines*), 'Grunt' (*Army*), 'Squid' (*Navy*), 'Puddle Jumpers' (*Coast Guard*), etc., are terms of endearment we use describing each other. Unless you are a service member or vet, you have not earned the right to use them. Using them could get your ass kicked.
11. Last, but not least, whether or not you become a member of the military, support our troops and their families. Every Thanksgiving and religious holiday that you enjoy with family and friends, please remember that there are literally thousands of soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen far from home wishing they could be with their families. Thank God for our military and the sacrifices they make every day. Without them, our Country would get it's ass kicked.
'It's the Veteran, not the reporter, who has given us the freedom of the press.'
'It's the Veteran, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.'
'It's the Veteran, not the community organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.'
'It's the Military who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag.'
AND ONE MORE:
12. If you ever see anyone either standing for or singing the national anthem in Spanish - KICK THEIR ASS.
13. ONE LAST THING:
If you got this email and didn't pass it on - guess what - you deserve to get your ass kicked!
I sent this to you, because I didn't want to get my ass kicked.
WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE, ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!
IN GOD WE TRUST
Backlash
Miami 68 to 75, FL USA - Monday, January 04, 2010 at 13:54:34 (MST)
HI flight I just see what the 129th Brother & Sister go out of there way to help other & that makes me feal so proud of the FLIGHT & I am glad I am one & one more time I WISH EVERY ONE A HAPPY NEW YEAR & GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU Art
Art
USA - Sunday, January 03, 2010 at 21:15:13 (MST)
To Don McCort; Jim had to give the same burden of proof to the VA. I wrote a letter to them testifying that he had the ringing in the ears from the time I met him (which was the summer after he got home from Nam). I also said he had trouble hearing since I've known him. Because I was his wife and testified for him, they reconsidered and put him on partial disability for the tinnitus. They gave him partial disability due to his time in the service; in his case, repairing helicopters. Is there someone who can do the same for you? Hope this helps. Sue H.
Sue H.
USA - Sunday, January 03, 2010 at 19:53:30 (MST)
GOD BLESS YOU ART AND HAVE A HAPPYNEW YEAR FROMONE GRANDPAW TO ANOTHER TEX 70-71
GARY MOUNT
USA - Sunday, January 03, 2010 at 18:04:11 (MST)
HI HI paul thank you 4716youngsmill rd. Hogansville GA. 30230 Josh love to play it are you shore you cant get them can I give you some money for it & I know josh will like it & if I can help eany one I will & that goes for all of you Art
Art
USA - Sunday, January 03, 2010 at 17:26:40 (MST)
McCort,yes it is combat related and you can get some compinsation for the condition.They will test you and determine just how bad your ears are.
Jim <
Dustoff>
IL USA - Sunday, January 03, 2010 at 16:15:31 (MST)
Art; send me your snail mail again i have an extra nintendo game console and a couple of games(mario kart and mario golf). i'll send them to you for josh.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, USA - Sunday, January 03, 2010 at 15:07:54 (MST)
Hey mark I do get on here every once and awhile,I hope your Christmaswas a good one. Gale Thanks for the Christmas ornament they ar alway great analways creative Hpoe your Christmaswas good as well I have a ouestion for you all how many of you have Tinnitus / ringing of the ears and is it sevice conected. I have an appeal to the VA for this and have to prove this condtion with or medical service record to back it up.Enyone have any ideas on this I would be greatful. and again Happy New Year with good healh to yu and yours
o McCort
USA - Sunday, January 03, 2010 at 14:44:16 (MST)
Happy Birthday Jim. Will see you at Lambo!!!!...........
Mark
USA - Saturday, January 02, 2010 at 23:02:18 (MST)
Happy birthday, Jim Hydinger. (12/26) How the heck did we get to this age?! Jim & I are looking forward to Green Bay gathering, too. We hope we see many of Jim's 129th family in May.
Sue H.
USA - Saturday, January 02, 2010 at 21:43:22 (MST)
Hey Don McCort.....great to see your post brother..........
Mark
USA - Saturday, January 02, 2010 at 20:16:54 (MST)
HI if I had two like Josh I be headed for the woods but he a lot of fun & he getting good at nintendo yoshis it a 64 old one & oneI wont let him even see south park the turcky game.
Art
USA - Saturday, January 02, 2010 at 19:34:12 (MST)
Gale Beard, have your christmas ornament in front of my keyboard, I will pass it on to my son and grandsons,thanks, you go Grandpa Art , i have 2 of my own and they are a treasure. Tex 70-71
GARY MOUNT
USA - Saturday, January 02, 2010 at 18:02:20 (MST)
Wishing All of you a Happy New Year And a belated Merry Christmas.
Hope to see you in Atlanta
Don McCort
USA - Saturday, January 02, 2010 at 14:00:56 (MST)
Atta boy Josh, you got Grandpa's "go get em" in ya.
Mark
USA - Saturday, January 02, 2010 at 12:08:44 (MST)
HI every one I got Josh a punching bac spiter man I pick him up last night well he was punching it & he was a little off balence & the punching bag scored a hit Josh went down he got up & got back into it.
Art
USA - Saturday, January 02, 2010 at 09:57:36 (MST)
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USA - Friday, January 01, 2010 at 11:16:56 (MST)
Happy New Year to all of our 129th family, I hope that this year 2010 will bring to you a very great and bright, and helthy year to all of the 129th family and there loved ones and may our Father in heaven watch over us and keep us all safe, and as we prepair for LZ Atlanta and LZ Kokomo this year that we may have more of us there.
Peace be with all, clear right.
Joe and Kristy
USA - Friday, January 01, 2010 at 10:45:44 (MST)
HAPPY NEW YEAR to all my 129th brothers & sisters!!!!! I pray that 2010 will be good to us all. Thanks for all the nice comments about the ornament this year and I hope all got one that wanted one....if not, send me your name & address. I'm sending out 52 now and it keeps growing. I've got three new 129ther's that will try to make LZ Atlanta. With a little encouraging I hope they do. Then comes Kokomo again...WOW, do you think we can top 2009????? Always a brother, Gale
Gale
USA - Friday, January 01, 2010 at 07:51:39 (MST)
Happy new year to you all from all of us in England. Hope 2010 is a good one. Will be busy for us with the hope of further helicopters joining 509 in the UK skies.
Simon, Phil, Bradley, Jo, Nina, Neil, Rob and Keith
Simon <
simon_johnson@talktalk.net>
Mellor, 509 County UK - Friday, January 01, 2010 at 06:01:19 (MST)
Happy New Year and may God bless my brothers. 2010 ,GARY
gary mount
USA - Friday, January 01, 2010 at 03:05:29 (MST)
Happy New year and God Bless you my brothers and sisters.............always a brother.....
Mark
USA - Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 22:10:35 (MST)
Wishing all the 129th Family a safe NEW years from Liz and myself. Alot of talk of reunions. The 1st 129th reunion was in June 1998. Myself and Glenn Pearmain at the VHCMA reunion in Texas. Since then alot of different reunions from the one at Mark's, also Gale's, Kokomo, VHCMA and Lambeu. And, the one I reget missing,but, my replace Ron Paye anlong with Mark and Fred Alvis. Their trip to England and to represent the 129th. And meet Phil and the group of the 129th aircraft 509. But, the best for me was the VHCMA Orlando reunion. Just the look on everyone's face when Phil,Simon and the wives walked into to the room. Priceless!!!! Also, attending was Ray Foley whom was with us in 1965/66. The St. Louis brought Joe Nicolish and Truman Mills whom was also there in 65/66. I encorage everyone to attend the reunions. You never know whom will be there. Always A Brother!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 08:31:08 (MST)
Oh yes the news media is no longer the place you go for the news. Hay all, wishing you all a better 2010 and hoping the people in Washington come to their senses. We all need to come together for logic in the face of a world who hate us. Than always remember those who are all over the world fighting on so many fronts to keep us safe. God Bless Us All!
Ken Strong Jr. 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 08:12:39 (MST)
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gary mount
USA - Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 22:29:55 (MST)
if youre not doing much log onto kcbd11 and check out Coach Leachs statement from texas tech that got fired today, talk about travesty of justice, by the way espn are a bunch of liars ,they know how to slant the truth,sound familiar, looking forward to the New Year, this one has been good, hope everyone had a good one too,and abetter one next year.. Gary..
gary mount
USA - Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 22:28:35 (MST)
Hello All! I hope everyone had a wonderful Christmas and hope all have a great New Year. I feel bad as I have not been very involved in 129th or VHCMA things this past year. For the past 18 months I have been involved with a close friend in getting his company off the ground that trains first responders for major emergencies and terrorism. Its been a challenge at times, but it is finally going well. Kat and I have been living in Tustin, California in our RV since Aug 08 so that I wasnt flying back and forth from our home in Colorado Springs. We will probably be out there another year. We are spending the holidays at our Colorado home and will be heading back on the 1st. I think of all of you all the time and hope that you are all doing well and praying for those who are feeling the ages that are creeping up on us all. Gently....the mom of the 129th!...you are special in our hearts and we sincerely thank you for all you do!!!! And Mark...no words can express how I (and the others) feel about what you have done for us all. You and Dee are in our hearts!!!! All be safe this New Years Eve and have a wonderful 2010!!! Bill & Kat Wolf
Bill Wolf
USA - Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 17:36:08 (MST)
HI guys if it would work come on & my heat back on but the gas logs cant even get parts for it so got to by new one So a good logs it will be a bout $200 to $600 I still think if I fell into a bed of flowers & I come out smelling like shit & the ruff time is over I started wanting to do things a lot more with november & december behind me it so hard to get into the season because of thing that happen in nam & here took some white roses to glenda grave & I can find peace there.
Art
USA - Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 17:33:08 (MST)
Dont know how many of you guys are college football fans but our most winningest coach was fired today over some prima donna punk, complaining that he was put in a equipment shed, big one,by the way and a press conforence room,so he could be near the field and players, his daddy is Craig James and they suspended Coach Leach a couple of days ago, so he went to court today to present his side and was fired before his side came out, what a fiasco for Texas Tech, by the way they play in the alamo bowl ,saturday,what timing, anyways have a happy new year, Flight... Tex 70-71.. he had a concussion,slight concussion but cleared to be on the field but not practice, he is a well known goldbricker by his teammates and coaches..
Gary Mount
USA - Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 16:51:56 (MST)
ya know art i think a couple of us guys ought to go to georgia and help you work on your house and then we could get a preist to come in and exorcise for you. how bout it guys?????
paul mcgrath
USA - Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 14:29:30 (MST)
HI every one I had to rub that 4 leaf clover my heat seckent floor out moter burnt out & gas log just crap out to I hope that all does eany one have luck me I hope not. tommorw night I wish I could have a drink like a harve wall bangerit might change my luck or kill me & I have not had a beer 20 or 25 years & no smoke I gave it up aug 17 71. well guys I asked santer for a good looking girlgot one but she look like filles diller that the last time I ask him for somthing again. Every one if you go out be caufel out there dont want to here about some one getting hurt OK& I mean it watch out for the other guy. HAPPY NEW YEAR Art
Art
USA - Tuesday, December 29, 2009 at 22:14:47 (MST)
Gently,Last year at Kokomo was really great.As we had brothers that had made it a Mission to attend.Bet we could have a bigger showing this year.Yes! we are all getting older and sicker of everything.I thank the good lord every year that somehow I can make it to Kokomo to meet with all the brothers that has been where I was and done everything I have done.We Vietnam Vets have a special bond.I meet brothers everyday from the past and feel
Honored to have known them.Everybody Hang in and try to make the trip to Kokomo.See you there.Have a nice New Years.
Jim <
Dustoff>
IL USA - Tuesday, December 29, 2009 at 10:35:42 (MST)
Backlash, you put it so well, thank you. We're all in our winter years now, and that makes our getting together more important than ever. Every year will bring more aches and pains making it harder to get together. Please try to make the re-union or Kokomo in 2010: one is more indoor and the other is totally outdoor. For some of us it could be our last opportunity to "catch-up" or meet the face of the signature at the bottom of these web posts. For those who have been to the re-unions and/or Kokomo, please help me encourage everyone to make it this year: And we have the Christmas fund to help with costs if costs are the reason you aren't able to join us. It's wonderful knowing all of you...I am so blessed. I'm always here for you. Alvis, be careful on the roads. Pray for Peace, on a multitude of levels, for 2010. Thinking of Tet-Gently
Gently
USA - Tuesday, December 29, 2009 at 07:25:04 (MST)
HI everyone I just one thing to tell you dont buy a spider man punching bag you best have a air compreser I know after two huff & I was flat went to my shop & used the compreser to blow it up he got his spider man bike & a scooter to wich brad could not put it together there was 2 washer lower part of the front a clamp & handle bars & had the paper to show you how to do it. he need some one to show him how to wipe his but & he need a but oprasion & I just got a new chane saw& when I get throw trash the saw it would not cut eany thing after that.
Art
USA - Monday, December 28, 2009 at 21:32:08 (MST)
I just wanted to say a belated Merry Christmas to each and every one of you guys and gals. Thank you for everything you did, that you do now, and continue doing to support not only your Company, but all branches of the Military. You are hero's to me and the family. "Truckers make the world go 'round. The US Military keep it spinning freely."
Clifton Pyle <
othertrucker2001@yahoo.com>
Washington, NC USA - Sunday, December 27, 2009 at 08:04:42 (MST)
I would be remiss if I did not include my good friends Kim LaVoie, Howard Boling, Jim Oliver, and Jesse Hancock in my greetings... Blessings, Bros!
Dave Powers
USA - Saturday, December 26, 2009 at 11:02:46 (MST)
Merry CHRISTmas and Happy New Year to you all! A special greeting to Rick Smith, Dennis Faucher (my Vietnam and Colorado hunting buddy), Greg Henkel, Larry Thies, Jim Westwang, Gary Carlson, and the Freds (Alvis and Skaggs). When I think of Christmas at Lane I look at my photo of the aerial flares that night and remember the sound of rifle shots around the perimeter in celebration. Also, I remember the mirth of those passing by the hootch. When I read names, such as Vega, Higdon, Rivas, and McInnes I reflect on the common thread we all have because of our overlapping tours. It's because of this that we have "brotherhood by proxy" and a kindred spirit, and I can know Gale Beard and Bruno Sanchez. We are separated by years, yet we know each other because of our common experience! And like Animal, I remember John Paul Vann's visit and how I was "unprepared" to meet the general! He died in a chopper crash near Kontum in June 1972. We were blessed this Christmas to meet our 7th grandchild, "Jovie" on December 20th. Blessings to you, my Brothers!
Dave Powers
USA - Saturday, December 26, 2009 at 10:57:43 (MST)
See you guys when i can get back through town.Hopefully, it wont be a month this time.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 26, 2009 at 06:41:26 (MST)
I wish I could remember Christmas of 72, Just remembered getting a Christmas Card when I was in Nha Trang, eating C-rats and not knowing it was Christmas till someone made a comment. So for me it was just another day I guess.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Friday, December 25, 2009 at 17:00:45 (MST)
Good afternoon flight on Christmas day ,looking over the 129th. book yesterday, best Christmas present Ive had in a while, pretty darn cool, got to looking at the bookand found Tony Vegas and Mike Higdons picture in it, Mike was the one who wrote me a couple of letters when I went to Ft. Ord and there was a picture of Larry Brewster in it also, they both got to Lane before I left there in March of 71, wonder at this time what happened to them and Blough, Buffy, Lulei and others ,Rivas my gunner too, you know we really were and still a part of a special group in a different and trying time, I remember listening to the Bob Hope show that day on the radio, Rocky was the pilot, wont say what we were doing that day, that was the last year ol Bob came to Nam,1970, we did eat with a colonel that day at a firebase, close to the crows nest, seems like we all got HAMMERED that night, some things I remember more than others, the Cobras flew over the compound all that night, we were supposed to get hit and during Tet, still remember them flying overhead like it was yesterday CLEAR RIGHT, the Phantom 70-71..
Gary Mount
USA - Friday, December 25, 2009 at 15:40:10 (MST)
Merry Christmas & Happy New year to all, I dont remember an awful lot about those 2 days 71-72 but you know me was quite drunk & loaded>>>>>Jim
jim westwang 71-72
sheridan, wyoming USA - Friday, December 25, 2009 at 15:11:01 (MST)
Flight, Merry Christmas 2009!!!!!Yeh Alex, I had just finished my R&R at Hawaii in January of '68. There was a chopper waiting for me at Qui Nohn and did we have a wild ride back to Lane with all the tracers coming at us....and me with no weapon...pretty scary!Then we had to hit the trenches in the middle of the night, but, thanks to the ROKs and our gunships we weren't overrun.......that was some fireworks. You're right about QuiNohn...our gunships tore that place a new a**h***. We went into town later and you couldn't hardly recognize anything. Gale 67-68
Gale
USA - Friday, December 25, 2009 at 13:38:39 (MST)
Alvis Merry X-mas Dude :-) :-), Headed to Del Rio,TX. Take your your fishing stuff. Amistad Reservoir if full of Trophy black bass. Luby's Cafeteria has good chow.There is also a Wal-mart of the same side of the street.Be careful on your way to Del Rio.It's deer season & the white tail's "do" cross the road.They are sometime eating on the side of the hwy between the fenceline. There are other resturants that you can try. Keep that diesel "hummin'".Be care with the smokies in the Del Rio & Eagle Pass area. They "area agreesive with plenty of "green Stamps". You should be able to get freight out of Del rio.It's a little slow so if you Lay over there is stuff to do. On hwy 90 north of Del Rio The Judge Roy Bean "Law west of the Pecos" is there. I don't recall the distance.
Merry X-mas to the 129th. Dawg 426
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo, TX USA - Friday, December 25, 2009 at 11:10:19 (MST)
Reminisced with Rick "Rebel" Smith on the phone last night. Lots of memories from Christmas 1971.
John Paul Vann touring the company area, Alvis, Dennis, et el going inverted, Festus and I getting the Christmas Elk for the ROK's.
In 1971 I believe there was a ceasefire of some sort in effect at Christmas/Tet, so not a lot of enemy activity. I believe they were merely getting ready for the coming "spring offensive" that impacted our unit so much.
Congrats to Dave P on the birth of Jovial "Jovie", another Grandchild; Great name, great gift.
Aloha, Haoli Makahiki Hou !
Greg henkel, 1st Flt Plt, 71-72
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Friday, December 25, 2009 at 11:08:37 (MST)
thanks Gently, merry xams.
alvis
USA - Friday, December 25, 2009 at 08:56:47 (MST)
Alex,Funny you should remember TET 68 and Qui Nhon Airfield.On the field fence line was a guard tower faceing the paved road.When Tet started I had just came from the PX and was walking along the side of the road.In front of the Tower was a culvert that ran under the road.I spent two days in the culvert makeing faces at the guards while drinking my GrandDad and hideing from the VC.Just lucky it did not rain.Everybody have a good Holidays.
jim <
Dustoff>
IL USA - Friday, December 25, 2009 at 08:20:40 (MST)
Wishing All the 129th family a safe Christmas and New years. Rick I was there for christmas 1965 and 1967. Left before thanksgiving 1966. Headed to Fort Benning GA. left Benning in May of 1967 going back to Nam for my second tour. Do remember TET of 68. They over ran the Qui Nhon airport and into the city. I our aircraft kicked ass. Always A Brother!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Friday, December 25, 2009 at 06:21:50 (MST)
We have a white christmas which is somewhat unusual, dont know your route Alvis, lots of problems with roads down south of here, i-20, especially, please be careful,Merry Christmas .. Tex..
Gary Mount
lubbock, tx USA - Thursday, December 24, 2009 at 22:25:37 (MST)
Merry Christmas 129th
J. W. Wilson
Kinston, N. C. USA - Thursday, December 24, 2009 at 16:54:28 (MST)
Animal,Same to you Mele Kalikimaka, Haoli Makahiki Ho,Aloha.
jim <
dustoff>
IL USA - Thursday, December 24, 2009 at 16:06:56 (MST)
Mele Kalikimaka, Haoli Makahiki Ho !
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Thursday, December 24, 2009 at 15:59:55 (MST)
pulling out saterday morn,early. Am under load,just stopped by the house to spend time with the apple of my eye.Going to Del Rio Texas,down on the Mex border.GOT to be there by 7:oo AM monday morn.
alvis
USA - Thursday, December 24, 2009 at 12:52:05 (MST)
Mark,
We also believe that we may have lost a brother but we too have gained another in you. My you and your family have a wonderful Christmas and a happier New Year..
Your bother,
John Sartor
John Sartor
USA - Thursday, December 24, 2009 at 09:28:50 (MST)
Robbie, please take me off your spam list. I know I asked you, but your email address will not except my new email address ether. Thanks brother. John Sartor
John Sartor, Sr <
sartor_john@yahoo.com>
USA - Thursday, December 24, 2009 at 09:21:49 (MST)
HI every one MARRY CHRISTMAS BACK dec 31 in the 68th top tiger on new years night was loded & crash the offers club had a ball I had some good times not all bad & I thank GOD for bringing me home you have a HAPPY NEW YEAR & watch out for the other guy & Avlis take care out there & hope you maket it home & keep the dirty side down & the clean up & going to put some flowers on Glenda grave tonight. Art
Art
USA - Thursday, December 24, 2009 at 07:38:57 (MST)
Your right Rick Its a good time in my life now being back with my brothers after 40 years,May all of you have a great Holiday Season and be safe until we can be together again this next year.
Frank A Sutton
Greenwood,In., USA - Thursday, December 24, 2009 at 06:33:55 (MST)
Merry Christmas to the flight and be careful out t there. Ken did you get my e-mail on my address? Thanks for the time to send the forms. Rick Always a brother looking forward to Kokomo. I remember christmas in RVN in 68. Just got back from Phu cat afb that night the ROKS got hit hard we all were up flying that night. Whelan frenchie sutton tommy joe amd gus I am sure you rememeber that one. Now we all look forward to be together as brothers again. this time having fun and relaxing. Rick
Rick England
USA - Thursday, December 24, 2009 at 04:28:45 (MST)
It is really coming down here , was going to go up to Amarillo and spend Christmas with my son, Shane and grandsons, Jaden and Zachary, but it will be too bad to travel tomorrow as it rained and then sleet and now it is really snowing hard here and will be frozen over soon and be slick as owl s..t, but they are out of school and have a good rof over their heads and warm and cozy Im sure, sure wish old Grandpa could have made it, but good thing I took theyre Christmas presents last week, , oh well maybe next year, dont know a whole lot but I know Ill SEE you guys again on the other side and noone will suffer no more, there will be a peace for all of us. Mark, God BLESS YOU !!!! CLEAR RIGHT... Tex 70-71...
Gary Mount
Lubbock, Tx USA - Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 22:45:40 (MST)
Mark you are one super guy and we love you and all the rest of the 129th family, we hope that all have a Marry Christmas and a Happy New year, you are right one day we will be togeather as a big family on the other side, our lives are not over this is a training ground for the eterneys and that is a long time,Mark you and all the 129th are in our prayers each and every day.
ps call eny time 217 453-2533 or 208 921 9599 clear right.
Joe & Kristy Nicolich <
joeandkristy@citlink.net>
USA - Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 21:05:48 (MST)
HI Mark I look at you granp the little one you were holding on face book you got that proud look like I got when Josh came into this world & that one thing that no can take from GRAND paw & grand mom & now Josh want a motor cycle he when he see on & when we go to wal mart & he see one paw paw go see the bike he walk around it I want it & I will stake my life on it he get one because he been hook on them from a year old. I think I headed for bed I cant rember ever geting this sleepy Ithink it was in boot camp that shot take about 90% of the hurt out of my body & whot will I feal like in mornning
Art
USA - Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 21:01:23 (MST)
This is a special time of year, this place is special, you all are special, our friendships are special, our devotion to one another is special, our love for one another is special. I have been blessed, and with utmost graditude I thank each and everyone of you for letting me be a part of it all. May our Dear Lord and Savior grant all of you warm blessings not only now be continually for the rest of your lives. Eternal life does not start upon our earthly death. It starts the moment we surrender to the Lord. I can't wait until all of us we be together on the other side where all these acks and pains will be no more. I love you guys, no words have been written yet to explain how much. There are nights when I set here reading this log book and looking at photos of you all and those that have past and I become overwhelmed with what has transpired in the last 11 years here. I have said it befor, but it is good for me to repeat it. I lost one brother in Vietnam, but gained hundreds here.A Blessed Merry Christmas and fruits of the Spirit to all.........................always,always, a brother..................
Mark Jackson <
fourfour@hometowncable.net>
Celina, OH United States - Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 20:42:47 (MST)
Art, you are a wonderful Grandpa...................always a brother.......
mark
USA - Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 20:21:23 (MST)
HI well went to the va today got there at around 7.30 AL.time got home about 8 pm went throw the meat grinder I cant spell it but you get it fomm agent oringe pref?????? well it dues your nerves in well it climing up my back dont want me picking up more than 20 pounds they gave me a shot & want to see how long it last for the pain they wanted me to stad for a few day DCO I cant I got to put a bike toghter for my grandson I will not let him down he been talking about his spider man bike for the last april & told the DOC if it put me on my back I will get it dun I not let it get me down I going to do every think I can do with him.
Art
USA - Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 19:34:18 (MST)
This time,38 years ago, Gabby,Dennis and I were having fun at a xmas party,witht the air force pilots, in Tuy Hoa.We were TDY.I played hearts and/or spades,drank way, way to much.Guess the lonlyness was felt by us, heck, we werent even with our 129th friends.Xmas day we flew,got inverted,almost crashed and had to red x the aircraft. Yes, I did say inverted.They slung her home,slung broke on the way,and she was dropped into the South China sea.Seems like yesterday.I can still here the screams and crying of the passengers.I can still here Dennis calling out Mayday,Mayday,Mayday.I can still hear that AK 47,ripping off a full magazine at us,from tree top level.I can still see Gabby, Dennis and the crew chief,sitting under a tree, not believing we were still alive.I can still feel ever damn bump, on the way back, in the "rescue" bird. We all made it back.Each Christmas we have much to be thankful for. More than most. Merry Christmas you guys,I am proud to have served with you,after you or before you.Your a damn fine bunch.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 18:55:36 (MST)
HI every one & I dont want to tell you rember when I told you are grat leader would get it throw & on the day is just in so short time he paid some people off wellI going to cash my MEDICAR IN the first week coes it not going to be worth a dam & I wont say a thing about are gov. again they stuck it to us back when we watch are BROTHER go home in body bag & the still sticking to us know you might not like whot I sead but I TOLD YOU SO.
I will never bring are gov. inon this sight & that A promis that on GLENDA GRAVE Art
Art
USA - Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 18:17:07 (MST)
You know, time has a way of moving quickly and catching you unaware of the passing years.
It seems just yesterday that I was young, just married and embarking on my new life with my mate. And yet in a way, it seems like eons ago, and I wonder where all the years went.
I know that I lived them all...
And I have glimpses of how it was back then and of all my hopes and dreams... But, here it is..the winter of my life and it catches me by surprise... How did I get here so fast? Where did the years go and where did my youth go?
I remember well...seeing older people through the years and thinking that those older people were years away from me and that winter was so far off that I could not fathom it or imagine fully what it would be like... But, here it is...my friends are retired and getting gray...they move slower and I see an older person now. Lots are in better shape than me... But, I see the great change... Not like the ones that I remember who were young and vibrant... But, like me, their age is beginning to show and we are now those older folks that we used to see and never thought we'd be.
Each day now, I find that just getting a shower is a real target for the day! And taking a nap is not a treat anymore...it's mandatory! Cause if I don't on my own free will..I just fall asleep where I sit!
And so, now I enter into this new season of my life unprepared for all the aches and pains and the loss of strength and ability to go and do things that I wish I had done but never did!!
But, at least I know, that though the winter has come, and I'm not sure how long it will last...this I know, that when it's over...its over....Yes , I have regrets. There are things I wish I hadn't done ,,,,,things I should have done, but indeed, there are many things I'm happy to have done. It's all in a lifetime....
So, if you're not in your winter yet...let me remind you, that it will be here faster than you think. So, whatever you would like to accomplish in your life please do it quickly! Don't put things off too long!!
Life goes by quickly. So, do what you can today, as you can never be sure whether this is your winter or not!
You have no promise that you will see all the seasons of your life...so, live for good today and
Say all the things that you want your loved ones to remember...
And hope that they
Appreciate and love you
For all the things that you have done for them in all the years past!!
'Life is a gift to you. The way you live your life is your gift to those who come after.
Make it a fantastic one.'
LIVE IT WELL!!----ENJOY TODAY!!!!-----DO SOMETHING FUN!!!----
BE HAPPY!!!----BE THANKFUL!!!!!
God Bless and God Speed to all who has ever placed their lives in harms way upon my behalf and for my freedom that I should reach this season of my life.
Backlash
Miami 1968-75, FL USA - Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 15:44:10 (MST)
Mark - sent your book out today via UPS rather than sending again thru the US Mail and having them lose it again!! It should arrive on the 4th. Sorry for the mess up. Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 15:13:34 (MST)
Hi, Flight, Received my 129th. book today from Gary Woodward, thanks Snoopy, will pass it on to my 2 grandsons someday and my son, God rest our fallen 129th. brothers at this time, Christmas, we will all be thinking of you, my brothers andalll our brothers over seas at this time so we can have a peaceful christmas here at home,Merry Christmas one and all.. Gary Tex 70-71..
Gary Mount
USA - Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 14:36:00 (MST)
morning flight, wishing very one a merry xmas an a good new year. wink 3/69-10/70
wink
lake wales, fl USA - Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 08:34:48 (MST)
First wishing all a Merry Christmas. Second, "Bub" SSG Prentis Minix will be layed to rest next to his wife today with full military honors. As I passed along well wishes from the 129th, they reminded me that the trip he made to Kokomo made an impression of what a great bunch of guys our unit is. I will miss him but understand his pride to not be a burden on others was who was! I wish the VA doctors would learn not to treat vets like numbers but instead with the respect we deserve.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 07:01:16 (MST)
Wishing everyone a safe and Happy Holiday this year ****** Remember our friends and family no longer with us and give thanks for all the good things & family we do still have.**(including this one)*****MERRY CHRISTMAS & GOD BLESS*******(Going to be a real "snow bird" this year***heading to Key West with Susan for the holidays) **Best To All***snoopy**
Gary Woodward
Memphis, Tn USA - Wednesday, December 23, 2009 at 04:20:54 (MST)
Evenin' all you Bite & Strikers! Figured I'd better sign in,as it's been a while. I'm most assuredly having a White Christmas this year! I'm thankful that both of our sons are back home for the holidays. The youngest,Dan is in from Goodfellows AFB,TX.,where he is in Intel School. Lenny jr.is still in USAR,continuing his studies @ StonyBrook U. He's not returning to the "Sandbox" for another tour. I'm very proud of the guys&gals in our Military.Alot of them have sacrificed so much for a sometimes thankless society. There is still a huge disconnect between the civilian population & them. It's not as bad as WE had it,but it's still there. I no longer trust this Govt.with anything it says. We all must keep our Military Folks & families in prayer,& support them any way we can. I thank all of you for your service to our Nation! This generation is well aware of the way that we were treated, and I won't allow that to happen again. When I see Armed forces personel, I thank them for the job that they are doing. I pray that our leaders gain wisdom,and remember that "If you've commited one Soldier,then you've committed The Nation." My family and I wish you and yours the Merriest of Christmases,& the very Happiest New Years Ever! Be safe, and do something good for yourself. God Richly Bless Y'all..real good. Clear Left......Lenny,Elke,Len&"Lt.Dan"
Lenny
USA - Tuesday, December 22, 2009 at 20:02:57 (MST)
HI I cant get on the ROK site I NEED HELP so one send me there email address ok.
Art
USA - Tuesday, December 22, 2009 at 17:52:07 (MST)
I hope everyone rec'd their auction items. Let me know if you did not. Keep your expections for a nice Christmas small and remember the real reason for the holiday. Then you won't be disappointed. Love to all- Peace. Love-Gently
Gently
USA - Tuesday, December 22, 2009 at 12:30:40 (MST)
Paul McGrath: That's it dude. I agree that they're trying to make up for what they "did not" do. Some of these "folks" might" even be people from our own age group that did not serve. Some of them may even vets themselves & know what its like. But anyway Merry X-mas & Happy new year to everyone.
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo, TX - Tuesday, December 22, 2009 at 11:24:38 (MST)
opps... http://cafe3.ktdom.com/vietvet/technote/read.cgi?board=englishf&nnew=2&y_number=1338
alvis
USA - Tuesday, December 22, 2009 at 06:24:20 (MST)
Art , Jim, and other folks that are interested in our ROK friends and buddies. Posted on the ROK site by an ex-marine,is this series of ROK pictures.Some have our birds in them.I believe the one that shows a bunch of birds on approach to the ROK air strip for a CA, I was on.There ia also a pic of one of our birds throwing off supplies ( most of you have seen this pic)on the fire base atop An Khe pass,during the battle there in april of 72.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, December 22, 2009 at 06:23:54 (MST)
leaving out about 9 this morning.iF Idont make it back in time for xmas,..all have a safe and happy,merry xmas.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, December 22, 2009 at 06:00:58 (MST)
HI if you got SNOW dont bring it I had plenty in rhode island & they talking about globle worming they need to get out sideuo north& west & got to dig out Josh is bike & now he wants a HOLEY santer to bring him & I bet when he get older he get one he loves all bikes.
Art
USA - Monday, December 21, 2009 at 15:51:40 (MST)
It's nice here in our 129th home also, Art. We've all got our arms around you....you and Ray. Anyone heard form Ray lately??? L-Gently
Gently
USA - Monday, December 21, 2009 at 14:50:03 (MST)
HI it hard on vet they have a goc for six mounth & A nother come & dont know what you want they change your med & you should be taking off one slow for a week one day & they need to make all VA hospitel the same & throw out the one that dont give shit & they only care about there pay check the could give a shit about the VET I real lucky to find a good one Tuskegee I would not giv a dam for Atlanta & there a lot of vet go to ware I go they dont like & I would never go thar again Isunner jump in a hole & drag the dirt over me & they came so close to killing me I could have a vegable & me & Glenda tha one thing we would not live that way or what ever you call it it not living that way & I that living well to puel the plug or try to bring me back Idont want to have some siting there & cant even wipe my own but I just want to go home to GOD & be with Glenda & allguys I know IT would be nice.
Art
USA - Monday, December 21, 2009 at 13:13:46 (MST)
Ken, I'm so sorry for your loss....and very angry at the good old VA system. They killed my father through the wrong diagnosis several years ago....how I wish none of you had to deal with them. You and the family are in my prayers Ken....I wish I could do more. Love-Gently
Gently
USA - Monday, December 21, 2009 at 11:25:13 (MST)
HI Alvis he promis you every thing put your hand out & one under tour but & see what fils up first get my point.
Art
USA - Monday, December 21, 2009 at 10:02:03 (MST)
Oboma siad recently that he has increased VA funding by 11%.Thats great. What they dont tell you is how much the case load has increased nor how much medical cost have risen,which I saw somewhere listed at over 25%.They play the numbers game,give really misleading figures and tell us how great they think we are and how much the take care of us.
alvis
USA - Monday, December 21, 2009 at 09:12:14 (MST)
HI KEN just think he in a better place than you are & the rest of us
Art
USA - Sunday, December 20, 2009 at 21:22:36 (MST)
Just wanted to say to ken sorry for your loss but be thankful that your bro in law found the peace that he deserves.be rest assured no one will ever hurt him again. also wanted to add that ida is flying into ohare tonite.it is snowing and nasty so i told her to look for any military types on her flight to see if we can give them a ride home.i've got to be out in it but that doesn't mean everybody has to.i figure if i can do something like this maybe it will help with some of the bitterness i also feel. hope i'm right.
paul mcgrath
USA - Sunday, December 20, 2009 at 15:52:04 (MST)
To the 129th, Haven't posted in near 5 months. Been "incarcerated and ignored" by the VA since early Sept for my third round with the big C. ONCE again they say "we got it all this time sir". No comment. Hard to believe one could ever survive and or even get through that level of pain. First your scared you'll die; then your scared you'll live; but somehow ya do. Enough. I wish to all of the flight, peaceful seasons greetings and my sincere gratitude to you all for allowing an "outside" a place to come and vent on "those days and nights". I have spent the last 3 hours updating your posts. My deep and sincere condolences go out to all in such time of loss, frustration and continued disillusionment. Per the "availability of service to Namm vets, I am a recent , I call it, non-recipient and can very much validate the frustrations expressed. Just be aware that your Senator and Congressman ALL got a 3% raise when WE got nothing and a cut of services to boot. Time for a total make over. Per Paul's last "experience" as to returning soldiers. After 45 years, one would think that the welcome home we didn't get would mellow a little but not so. Still cuts like a knife. Never the less, rejoice in their reception as it is OUR generation, who recieved rejection and spit-on that brought about just such changes. Per public transportation, I avoid it at all cost. However when it is the only option left, you can bet your sweet-bippy, you will see me check-in and board ALWAYS wearing my M-A1 flight jacket, squadron cap and Disabled American Cape on my service dog, Cheyenne. Cram it down their throats brothers and I have found that most domestic carriers willingly bend over backwards for Cheyenne and I, most way above and beyond the call of duty. Have even got a few standing Os upon debarking from the cabin but it comes bitter still and about 42 years too late. I guess it's better then the alternative we know so well. Merry Christmas to all, backlash
Backlash
Miami, FL USA - Sunday, December 20, 2009 at 15:07:48 (MST)
Paul, it seems that the American people finally learned something but of course at our expense but if one American soldier is honored at christmas or bought a meal or treated with dignity and respect then Hell I guess what I went through was worth it just hope the v.a. does the same for them and takes care of them, clear right.. TEX 70-71..
gary mount
USA - Sunday, December 20, 2009 at 14:28:50 (MST)
FLIGHT;this is likely to be a long and rambling post,so i appologize ahead of time.i was on a trip to nevada last week and observed some attitudes in the airports that frankly took me by surprise and made me want to cry.when i got to moline airport there was a banner welcoming home the troops,put up by the vva.nice touch i thought.when i got to atlanta i was smoking and bought a pfc that was coming out of fort gordon breakfast.when i got on the plane he was there and i figured we could shoot the sh*t.wrong the stewardes came and got him and brought him up to first class,a person in first class switched seats with him,this was a full plane.on the way back i stopped in memphis and went over to eat and there was a female e-6 that was not allowed to spend money at the restaurant,she was told everything was free for her.then i went to the bar for a smoke and an e-6 male sat next to me and i bought him a beer. found out he had a six hour wait,so the people around me all kicked into a pot to make his stay a little more enjoyable.left memphis and got back to moline and at the exit was a full honor guard from the patriot guard welcoming soldiers home for christmas and thanking them for their service.thewhole thing really blew me away.ALSO i was asked to pass this along by both of the e-6s. they appreciate the bitching and moaning that the vietnam vets have done as it has made major changes for them,in quality of life issues and also the military doing more for their spouses.they both wanted me to say THANKS for your past and continueing efforts because it really does make a difference to them.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Sunday, December 20, 2009 at 12:44:17 (MST)
HI guy I did a good one in Church & I will not even think of trying this there was a lady that sit near me so I thort I ask her if she like to go out a eat she told me she going over ti her mother to eat O she wasent waring a wedden bant then wenday night it was like getting hid with a bat some other came over to ask her how the familey she there ok & I just keep to my self in the coner I dont need that to happen again & I make shore of it & there only three places I go wal mart church & pick up Josh one more VA.
Art
USA - Sunday, December 20, 2009 at 12:07:17 (MST)
Thank you all for your thoughts. I had already cut back on medications just because of the issues we face in getting them. It is crazy when you have a problem & find out your doctor is off somewhere and I know Fred knows what it is like @ VA Indy. They say they have a back up but when you try to talk to them they say wait till yours gets back. Even went to the ER at Indy & was told to wait. The painful part is that we can't know the state of mind of someone else. So when it comes to Bub I am just feeling anger at what they have been doing & at him for giving up. YES, to all of you please don't let the VA win! I will get over this but it is hard thinking that Veterans have to deal with so many lazy government employees and the ones that think, Vietnam, well he must be a drug addict. I hope you all have a Merry Christmas and thank you again.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Sunday, December 20, 2009 at 07:25:01 (MST)
ALVIS,The weather is bad worry about the meds after you are safe.We need you alive.
jim <
dustoff>
il USA - Sunday, December 20, 2009 at 06:56:51 (MST)
Sorry Ken. What tough news to recieve about your brother.Getting refills on meds is impossible without the primary Doc saying so.or the shrink.Being a truck driver now, i am continueing to run into that brick wall.I am out of some meds now,hopefully,can get tomorrow,but aint betting on it cause I dont have an appt.Guess I am going to have to switch to a private Doc. And these are the people that want to bring you healthcare.
alvis
USA - Sunday, December 20, 2009 at 06:15:25 (MST)
Kim, I am very sorry that I sent it to the wrong place.I sure am glad that you got it though, been a long time coming. I did not realized that you had moved. I am excited that you like the stick. I was pretty proud of how the helo's turned out on it coming from freehand wood burning................always a brother...........
Mark
USA - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 19:58:21 (MST)
Wow ken, I am really sorry to hear that brother. Vent all you want to in here and don't worry about getting off topic. You sorrows are our sorrows. Every night , I lift the 129th family up in pray. Tonight I will meditate in prayer on you guys to the Lord. That;s really terrible Kenny. Hang in there brother. We are all here for you, Ya hear that man?.......................always a brother...............
Mark
USA - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 19:53:16 (MST)
Ken, sorry to hear of your loss!!.. My sincere condolences to you and your familey. Reading of your, and others, problems with the VA is depressing and seeing the consequences of their missmanagement is really beyond believing. I really can't understand how this can be happening in our country, but then again, seeing what is happening everyday has been quite eye opening. Take care Brother. Love and Brotherhood.. Kal / 68...
Kal
USA - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 18:35:03 (MST)
KEN,You have family that was with you in Nam and is still 100% with you here at home.We will keep you in our prayers.
Jim <
Dustoff>
IL USA - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 17:50:49 (MST)
RANCE,Thanks for the va information.It was nice of you to post that.Have a good one.
jim <
Dustoff>
IL USA - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 17:46:43 (MST)
Hey Mark, Kat and I just got to our house in Colorado for Christmas and found out that the post office obliterated the envelope that your book was in and, of course, lost the book! I will get another one out on Monday or Tuesday. These are the people (the Federals) that want to "run" our healthcare!!! ~Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 17:24:00 (MST)
http://www.veteranprograms.com/id194.html
Many veterans encountered problems when trying to prove that their difficult-to-diagnose or undiagnosed illnesses were connected to military service. This affected these veterans’ access to disability compensation.
http://www.veteranprograms.com/id194.html
In response, VA asked Congress for the authority to provide compensation benefits to veterans who are chronically disabled by undiagnosed illnesses.
http://www.veteranprograms.com/id194.html
Click on hyperlinks to read more about these new Compensation Programs.
http://www.veteranprograms.com/id194.html
Rance Jurevwicz <
admin@veteranprograms.com>
USA - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 16:04:01 (MST)
Wanted to wish all a Merry Christmas. _-_-_-_-_-_ I don't have the same issues as most of you or reasons behind depression but its something I have dealth with since I was 15(being bi-polar is sooo much fun) My only advice is that you have have HAVE to be your own advocate. The VA is crap here in my opinion. They treated my uncle like less than dirt....my grandpa not much better. If you feel that something is wrong fight for yourself. It is a war raging inside of you when depression knocks on your door. Ken, praying for your family. A loss is hard no matter what but circumstances can make it harder for the family left behind.
Melody Pershall
Amarillo, tx USA - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 15:43:58 (MST)
HI Ken next time they screw with your med go see a VA rep. they can help I am glad I found a VA that for the vet not thar pay check & could giv a shit less about you & when I go to see a goc how are you doing & how the med doing I tell them & if I not going to be here you see this doc I let him know about you & the onley one that change your med is me & if they are doing good we wont screwwith them & Ken that some hard stuf to be on.
Art
USA - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 14:56:07 (MST)
Thanks , PAUL , got one from SNOOPY, THANKS SNOOPY..
Gary Mount
USA - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 12:07:49 (MST)
Gary;if bill wolf doesn't have any copies left i have a copy of the book i will send you.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, USA - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 11:19:20 (MST)
Please forgive me , meant to say brother in law,Ken. thats what this site is for, Ken, Ishould know, Gary.
Gary Mount
USA - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 10:50:36 (MST)
Man Ken, I hate to hear all of that. Don't feel bad about using this site to vent if it keeps you in check. Our condolences go out to you & your family during this time of grief.....always a brother. Gale & Debbie
Gale
USA - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 10:46:48 (MST)
Ken, Iam so sorry to hear about your brother May God be with you at this time, there are no words Im sure I could say to you that will help with yur pain and your familys all I can say is that we are brothers and in someway I and your 129th. brothers are there for you and always will be forever, and God be with you and your brother,. LOVE you Gary...
Gary Mount
USA - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 10:36:05 (MST)
I first want to say I am sorry for getting off message but have been up all night feeling really depressed. I've been reading all the comments on medications and many of you know I had stopped taking morphine about nine months ago. The thing is that I would not have found you guys if not for one stupid VA doctor who up and took me off Prozac & Morphine all at once which ended up with me in the hospital. It helped me to get my VA Disability & got me in touch with the guys at Kokomo. It happened again a couple years ago when a doctor got a bug up their but and stopped it again. I am so upset now because a few months back my brother-in-law in florida needed meds refilled by his VA shrink who happened to be on vacation. Than when the ass came back he refused to continue what he had been taking and he has been in & out of the hospital with the VA screwing with all his meds sense than. So last night my closest brother put a gun to his head and ended it. My wife's family is now in total shock but I am just so mad! & depressed! I am mad because if I had a real doctor at the VA and felt we could count on them to help us! Well I just lost someone I cared deeply about because those doctors, not all, but many of them are just there for a paycheck. I am loosing all faith in anything that has anything to do with our government. My other biggest pain now is that his son just came home on leave the day before and was the one who found him. I hope the Army gives him help when he has to go back because this all hurts too much. I am sorry but needed to vent and know several of you had the chance to meet him when he made the trip to Kokomo.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 10:23:44 (MST)
HI every one MARRY MARRY CHRISTMAS & HAPPY NEW YEAR & SOME ONE NEED TO TAKE HIM & HAVE A GOOD TALK LIKE A MARINE
Art
USA - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 09:10:30 (MST)
Mark J. I had completely forgotten about the walking stick, so you can imagine my surprise when I gota call from the person who bought my house a couple years ago, saying that a package had been dropped off. It's beautiful!!! And I WILL treasure it for the rest of my life.
Kim LaVoie
Rome, Me USA - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 07:56:21 (MST)
Happy holidays from the Alvis family. I just read wherew they popped some idiot wannabe,out in Calf. Seems he liked wearing a Lt. Con. uniform (Marine) and telling folks about his combat tours,1 in Aftg,4 in Iraq. Alond with the Purple Heart,he also wore rows of ribbons,including the Silver Star. So it continues with these wanna be's.The guy even wore it to his high school reunion.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 05:51:08 (MST)
I ve found a few things over the years to keep from taking a bunch of crap, for depression, anxiety, trouble sleeping, keep from drinking, first is exercise, walking helps anxiety and depression, advil or theraflu will help you sleep or anything tat has benadrylin it ,yoga also helps or swimming, I found that if I ate a chocolate bar, 5th. avenue, hershey it helped ne somehow not crave alchohol, ST. JOHNS WART ALSO HELPS WITH DEPRESSION,also if you will drink a tea made out of oregano it helps with congestion and also good for arthritis,lots of old remedys that also work Ive foundout, STILL WOULD LIKE A 129TH. BOOK IF THERE IS ANY FOR SALE AND HOPE EVERYONE HAS A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!! TEX 70-71...
Gary Mount
USA - Friday, December 18, 2009 at 19:08:11 (MST)
HI Jim one thing you get a bird eye look & smile when they snap a photo I get one every year I only got less than a foot left in me caught somthing in vam so it a strate shot from my mouth to the out end & it might be funney but geting one could save your LIFE & if I got somthing that means other could have got it but I hope not SO GET ONE O they you a shot to help they gave me the third one told me to go & sit down that I would not be able to walk & in 30 mimets they sent a nurce with a wheelchair to bring me in so the nurce look at me standing on one foot & I got her to sit in the char & I pushed her in & the doc what with you you should be on your ass I told the doc have you check to what I am taking then he got my records you taking all that yes me & that doc got tobe good friends.
Art
USA - Friday, December 18, 2009 at 13:55:42 (MST)
Happy Holidays to everyone. My Son is coming home from college tonight, My Daughter, however will be at the New Mexico Bowl in the U of Wyoming Band & then she will come home.I get a colonoscopy for new years on Jan 7th (Happy Days). My wife may have to have a Hernia Repair as well. She is going Through some testing now. She only has 6 weeks to retirement from the VA with a full 30 years of service ( a cook). Hopefully some of you will get to meet her in the future. Art, my med list is an entire sheet of paper. I just thank God the VA pays for them or i would have lost my home by now. Everyone take care of yourselves>>>>Smitty
jim westwang 71 72
sheridan, wyoming USA - Friday, December 18, 2009 at 12:09:19 (MST)
thanks kal, wink
wink
lake wales, fl USA - Friday, December 18, 2009 at 08:17:31 (MST)
Wishing all the 129th and 509 Families a safe Christmas. Ron Paye gave me an early present. A flight that took me back to a 19 year old flying in vietnam. Thanks Ron!! Well looking froward to 2010. The Lambeau, VHCMA Atlanta and Kokomo. Hope we can find more of the 129th Families. Alot, were from Ohio,MI,In. and Pa. Always A Brother!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Thursday, December 17, 2009 at 17:47:37 (MST)
GeeWiz Art... Thats quite a list!!.. You ought to be sleeping like a baby!!.. Looks to me like you must have tried them all and one of them should have worked.. I am, after seeing your list, happy that I am only taking what I am. I must say though, that the meds for my RA are worth a lot more to me than I am paying and make life "livable".. Take care bud!! Merry Christmas!!!... L8r.. Kal...>>>
Kal
USA - Thursday, December 17, 2009 at 13:17:53 (MST)
And if you hadn't come home...Josh would be???? Think about it Art. L-Gently
Ge ntly
USA - Thursday, December 17, 2009 at 12:27:09 (MST)
HI Kal I take 25mg three time of beanderil a day & 300mg of trazodon at night 80mg 3TAD simethicone 40mg simvastatin 1 4 t.a.d. 300mg gabapentin 3 t.a.d. 81mg take 2 1 t.a.d. 150mg metoprolol 1 t.a.d. 150mg ranitidine 1 t.a.d. 200mg 1 t.a.d. that some s??tto take & I glad it dosent come out of my pocket & I got to keep that list in my billfode at all time to let a doc know what I am taken if it not a va.doc & this started in 1982 nam was a hell of a place to be for one time but three is tomuch & we all paying for it some time I think it would have been better if I never come home but I never change the life I had with Glenda & now Josh there my hole life they keep me going I making shore that Josh go to collage $52 thos Glenda would have wanted that way.
Art
USA - Thursday, December 17, 2009 at 11:58:55 (MST)
Art, here is one you may want to look at... Having worked the 11-7 shift for a number of years B4 I retired, I found that taking a Tylenol PM or two just B4 heading home aided me in geting to sleep. I found that the same sleep-aid in PM is called Beandryl and is sold as a anti itch, allergy, aid but really in nothing but a sleep aid. I get it from Walgreen's and their brand name is "Wal-dryl". I take it a few times a week depending on how late I have slept in that day and how much I want to get a good nights sleep.. Give it a try, it won't hurt and it may help you get some sleep.. Take care... C Ya.. Kal...>>>
Kal
USA - Thursday, December 17, 2009 at 11:02:06 (MST)
Hey Wink.... It may not be as bad as you think.. I have had RA for 30+ years and the main med I take started out as a cancer drug but was found to work well on RA. It is Methotrexate, and has kept me functioning for many years. Yes, there are still some bad days but a pain pill or two take care of that. I do have a couple of bad joints but they still function and with the drugs, keep things moving along. They are making headway on treating RA but like a lot of illnesses, it takes time and money. Without a good Rhumatolagist and some good meds, I would probably be bedridden or dead by now, so there is hope. Hang in there and hopefully this will add a little cheer to your Holidays.. Merry Christmas!!!... Gale... Thanks for the Ornament!!.. It is hanging prominately on the left side of the tree.. Looking good!!... ... Take care all.... L8r.. Kal / 68
Kal Bergstrom - 68 <
n8auu (at) email dot com>
Saint Joseph, MI USA - Thursday, December 17, 2009 at 10:39:52 (MST)
HI Wink I know how you feel it not my best time eather & Wink I put him on are prayer line it hard to see your love one sick like that & you could not never be scrooge & just ask GOD to com into your life I know GOD can help God help me & you can tell my spelling well somthing to TAKE CARE BROTHER.
Art
USA - Thursday, December 17, 2009 at 09:59:18 (MST)
morning flight,art thanks for the offer,but i think my kids are going to get me one for x-mas, thanks again.and as far as x-mas goes i'm not really in the spirit.my youngest son was diginosed with rumitoid arthritis, i know i'm not spelling that right,three weeks ago.he now has to take a small dose of kemo in table form for the rest of his life.what a bummer.i guess i'm still paying for my sins.like i've said before, the lucky ones are our brothers who did not make it home. sorry to be a scrooge. wink 3/69-10/70
wink
lake wales, fl USA - Thursday, December 17, 2009 at 09:03:02 (MST)
HI Mark because it need to be with the 129th things & you Mark is the 129th if wasent for you there would not be a 129th ahc & thank you for all you dun for all the 129th guy you will all be it. Art
Art
USA - Wednesday, December 16, 2009 at 19:16:11 (MST)
Just wondering why the Hub is headed my way?
Mark
USA - Wednesday, December 16, 2009 at 17:29:58 (MST)
Jim, I believe you have saved me from having to buy my own Christmas gift. Thank you!! Thank You!! The ½ tail rotor hub is today on its way to Mark. May it long echo in the temple of the 129th AHC. God bless Jim, God bless everyone. Frenchie
Bill 68-69
USA - Wednesday, December 16, 2009 at 11:23:57 (MST)
Gale, how is it you keep giving to all us brothers. You are an inspiration to the test of us. Without people like you, we would not be able to survive in the style that we all have become accustom to. There is a special purpose for you. Thank you for all that you do! Frenchie
Bill F
USA - Wednesday, December 16, 2009 at 11:22:48 (MST)
HI A nother long night I be glad when jan comes I get some sleep nov to jan bad news for me & I know that there a lot more like us sleep comes hard to nam vet.
Art
USA - Wednesday, December 16, 2009 at 01:18:43 (MST)
Rick England..need your phone number brother. Want to return your call.....
Mark
USA - Tuesday, December 15, 2009 at 15:59:16 (MST)
Oh man, Bunkie. That's so disturbing. But be the bigger person and contact him...surely he'll really need you as time goes on....geez....bummer. L-G
gently
USA - Tuesday, December 15, 2009 at 14:32:12 (MST)
Gently,The wedding did happen as she was still married to another,only forgot.I told Jim,he should forget too and walk off.I have not heard from him since.
Jim <
Dustoff>
IL USA - Tuesday, December 15, 2009 at 14:19:02 (MST)
Dust-off.....safe and at home! Wonderful! Sorry you missed the wedding:>(( that darn guy! Better be a good woman! All the auction items are now mailed...the the last ones going out today, wrapped, labeled, and with postage. Glad you got yours Kal....soon for the rest of you. A big special thank you to the 509ers in England! They donated many items for the auction, some of which I still have and will probably take to Kokomo to raffle off for our Fund....gotta love those English! Alex, I had a request(Ernie) for the 129th t-shirts you got once. Any chance we want to sell them again? Lowe to all-Gently
Gently
USA - Tuesday, December 15, 2009 at 11:06:57 (MST)
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MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEARS.
Jim <
Dustoff>
IL USA - Tuesday, December 15, 2009 at 10:49:06 (MST)
HI Wink is your computer seen it last day I have a good one I could send you let me know Brother. Art
Art
USA - Tuesday, December 15, 2009 at 09:08:38 (MST)
Gus it was good talking to you. I hope you can make it to Kokomo. flight be careful out there.
Rick England
USA - Tuesday, December 15, 2009 at 04:48:18 (MST)
Gently.... My Christmas raffle winnings arrived today and the 509 T-shirts are great!!..
Here is wishing A Merry Christmas to all!!.. Think Atlanta in June!!.. L8r.. Kal...>>>
Kal....68
USA - Monday, December 14, 2009 at 16:07:14 (MST)
Ted;YOU NEED TO GO TO KOKOMO NEXT YEAR.jvh;burn up a couple more cell phone batteries.
paul mcgrath
USA - Monday, December 14, 2009 at 08:11:53 (MST)
Ted B. and ted G.and Rachel................glad to see your post.............always a brother.................
mark
USA - Monday, December 14, 2009 at 07:12:35 (MST)
Awsome,conversation from the past!Phone rang this evening and there was a long lost buddy
from the Korean war on the other end.57 years in the past 1952.I had given him up for the man up stairs.His cell phone died and I called him back and we talked till mine died.Missed each other 5 times at unit reunions.If he lives till September.He plans to go to Kokomo next year.WOW.All have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Jim <
Dustoff>
IL USA - Sunday, December 13, 2009 at 21:33:18 (MST)
Gale, got the decoration, it is on the tree with the rest. The best to you and Debbie. You are on the list for the first tail rotor blade reproduction. Hope to have the time for that when I start my rocking chair pay.
Rick, Nice to talk with you on the phone great visit. My wife says "You need to go to Kokomo next year". We will see how I am doing when the time comes. The thought of sitting round a campfire with the 67-69 bunch sounds kind of good to me right now. I forgot you where crewing the sniffer the day we killed the deer.
Merry Christmas to everyone here. Health and happiness in the new year.
Ted (Gus) Gustafson <
ted.gustafson@gmail.com>
mn USA - Sunday, December 13, 2009 at 20:42:15 (MST)
Rachel, thank you for paying attention and your wishes. I want to wish you the best as you start your life and remember to always pay attention to history. One thing my father taught me and that education is something you do for your whole life. Your work here will be remembered.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Sunday, December 13, 2009 at 16:47:58 (MST)
HI every one Rachel Thank YOU so much & you have a MARRY CHRISTMAS TO you make a old guy like me GLAD for what it did THANK YOU Arthur Foster
ART
USA - Sunday, December 13, 2009 at 15:28:23 (MST)
HI every one Rachel Thank YOU so much & you have a MARRY CHRISTMAS TO you
ART
USA - Sunday, December 13, 2009 at 15:26:18 (MST)
HI every one Rachel Thank YOU so much & you have a MARRY CHRISTMAS TO you
ART
USA - Sunday, December 13, 2009 at 15:26:16 (MST)
Hello to all. It has been a long time since I have visited this website, but I came across the memorial video I made last year for Michael Shanley who was a member of the 129th AHC and went M.I.A. during the Vietnam War. It made me want to come back to this website and wish you all a belated Veteran's Day and thank you all for everything you have done for our country. No matter what people have said in the past or will say you are all heros and should be remembered as such. Thank you for serving and dealing with the hardship of losing those who you have known and loved. Everyone of you mean the world to this country and to me. Thank you again. Happy Holidays and Happy New Year! I hope it is filled with the utmost joy and full of family and friends.
Love and Constant Prayers from Texas,
Rachel
Age 17
Rachel
Austin, TX USA - Sunday, December 13, 2009 at 12:56:50 (MST)
Hello to all. It has been a long time since I have visited this website, but I came across the memorial video I made last year for Michael Shanley who was a member of the 129th AHC and went M.I.A. during the Vietnam War. It made me want to come back to this website and wish you all a belated Veteran's Day and thank you all for everything you have done for our country. No matter what people have said in the past or will say you are all heros and should be remembered as such. Thank you for serving and dealing with the hardship of losing those who you have known and loved. Everyone of you mean the world to this country and to me. Thank you again. Happy Holidays and Happy New Year! I hope it is filled with the utmost joy and full of family and friends.
Love and Constant Prayers from Texas,
Rachel
Age 17
Rachel
Austin, TX USA - Sunday, December 13, 2009 at 12:56:05 (MST)
I'd like to wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Thank you to Gale and Debbie for the Christmas tree ornament.
I don't come in as often as I should so I don't keep up with what goes on here any more, but my heart is with you guys.
Theodore Buisker <
skyking@stateline-isp.com>
Davis, IL. USA - Sunday, December 13, 2009 at 10:53:15 (MST)
robbie, no i didn't get the e-mail but thats because i no longer have a working computer. i know, im writing this, i'm using my son laptop,long story.so let me know whats up on our web site or give a call on cell phone any time. 863-370-0633 wink 3/69-10/70
wink
lakewales, fl USA - Sunday, December 13, 2009 at 09:54:04 (MST)
Hey Wink I sent you an email a couple of weeks ago asking about a gunship that Was slung under a Shinook and sent you a picture. Let me know......................Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Sunday, December 13, 2009 at 06:39:35 (MST)
Mark, got the email. Thanks Brother.
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Sunday, December 13, 2009 at 06:33:09 (MST)
yeah it would have been shorter but the airlines don't care right now saying hello from pahrump nevada
JIM; will be back in il.next week will call you then.GENTLY: wife is supposed to send check already. luv ya all paul
paul mcgrath
USA - Saturday, December 12, 2009 at 21:32:27 (MST)
HI Flight Well daughter & Josh & his dad I think some one must halftotell him to close door or he leav them open shore dont halfto tell him to go to sleep 10 seckents after he sit down he out it take a 60 morter round stuck up ware the sun has never shined to just get him to bleank a eye Tammy sead I think I beter drive & I sead you got that wright you make it
Art
USA - Saturday, December 12, 2009 at 21:00:21 (MST)
Robbie............sent you an email with the info on Roger and John............hey, it's been awhile since I ask...........have I told you all that I loved you yet today?????????????.................always a brother..................
Mark
USA - Saturday, December 12, 2009 at 10:03:01 (MST)
Mark, do you have up to date email addresses for John Usrey and Roger Austin? you can Send to my email addy if you want. Thanks.... Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Saturday, December 12, 2009 at 08:20:02 (MST)
Gently,Fingers have thawed out,Auction check is in the mail.Missed my little brothers Wedding.Glad I came home a little early.VA letter waiting for me with a deadline reply.
jim <
dustoff>
IL USA - Saturday, December 12, 2009 at 07:15:38 (MST)
Welcome home Jim..................
Mark
USA - Friday, December 11, 2009 at 20:08:49 (MST)
Gang,I just made it home,and a day not too late.The weather has turned into Eskimo degrees.Shiloh,28/22 degrees and me still wearing short pants with LZ St.Louis T-Shirt.beerr,freeze the balls off a copper Monkey.I ended up at the Metro-link station without my daughter for 5 Minites.She was really sorry for seeing a green Daddy with no pants.My fingers are haveing trouble typeing.Later guys.
jim <
dustoff>
IL USA - Thursday, December 10, 2009 at 21:01:59 (MST)
Matt, I am sorry for your loss and I am praying for you and your family.
J. W. Wilson
Kinston, N. C. USA - Thursday, December 10, 2009 at 18:49:38 (MST)
Paul, wouldn't it be shorter to take I-80W to Nevada instead of going through Atlanta...or did you make a wrong turn (like wrong way Wes). Hheeheheehee
Gale
USA - Thursday, December 10, 2009 at 17:21:36 (MST)
i'm in atlanta or i would have gone to chicago and picked him up. i'm on the way to nevada see ya later paul
paul mcgrath
USA - Thursday, December 10, 2009 at 16:30:26 (MST)
Dust-off is Ok and headed to St.Louis where his daughter will meet him. Amen to that! L-Gently.
Gently
USA - Thursday, December 10, 2009 at 12:36:52 (MST)
Dust-off, Jim Vam Horn, is stranded at the airport in Chicago(12/10)...anyone living in that area who can open their door to him for a day or two?? Bill W.??? Or at least have a meal with him? L-Gently
Gently
USA - Thursday, December 10, 2009 at 11:09:00 (MST)
Thank you very much the tree ornament I have them on the tree. I hope you and Debbie have a safe holiday and everyone be careful out there.
Rick England
USA - Thursday, December 10, 2009 at 09:17:24 (MST)
Been AWOL for while. Busy working 10-12 hour shifts at Autozone. But, it a job!! Something alot of people don't have. Matt Casey sorry to hear of the loss of your wife. Our thoughts and prayers go out to your family during this difficult time. Cherish the ime you had together. I remember the Louisville reunion. Last minute jumped on your bike and away you came. To see cupps!! and the rest of the 129th Family. Be stong my Brother and remember your 129th Family is here for you. Wishing all a safe Christmas. 44 years ago some of us spent our Christmas in Dong Ba Thin vietnam. We don't know what lies ahead. But, it's been a hell of a ride!! Always A Brother!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Thursday, December 10, 2009 at 08:41:32 (MST)
Matt, so sorry to hear of your great loss... prayers are sent out.
Dave Powers
USA - Wednesday, December 09, 2009 at 16:59:02 (MST)
matt so sorry to read about your wife, my prayers are with you.>>>>>> gale great orniment.WINK 3/69-10/70
wink
lake wales, fl USA - Wednesday, December 09, 2009 at 09:57:34 (MST)
ida and i will be there also
paul mcgrath
USA - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 19:44:01 (MST)
Jim and Sue, I will be there also. Will be great to see you too again............always a brother........
Mark
USA - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 17:17:47 (MST)
We called about confirming the room in Green Bay in May. Sue & I will be there. Thanks, Judith, for lining that up. We're looking forward to it. Jim H
Jim H
USA - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 16:56:55 (MST)
HI Flight I still have some of the 129th cd that Glenda maid for me if you want one& I will mail it to you OK Art
Art
USA - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 14:59:05 (MST)
Howdy Flight! Hope all is well with you and your families in this Christams season... Gale and Debbie, thanks again for the tree ornament! It will occupy a place of honor on the tree. Gale, I tried to e-mail you. If your eddress is different than on the 'Contacts' page please e-mail me: powers(at)montrose dot net.
Dave Powers
USA - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 14:24:02 (MST)
Dont know if theres any 129th. books left but I sure would like to have one ,will pay cost of book plus any other charges Happy birtday and everyone have a nice day, oh by the way noticed on the uso website dont look like theres a lot of entertainment for our troops overseas or stateside, especially from the country music industry that is showing up on their website, uso, dont understand why noome has taken the lead from the true American entertainer , Bob Hope and true AMERICAN hERO, HOPE THEYRE NOT FORGETTING ABOUT OUR TROOPERS LIKE THEY DID US, I know Toby Keith has as well as Gary Sinise and the Lt. Dan band as well as the WWE, DONT UNDERSTAND IT, NOT PERFORMING HERE ESPECIALLY Ft. Hood should be no. 1 priority ? CLEAR RIGHT. Tex 70-71..
Gary Mount
USA - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 13:00:02 (MST)
Gale, got the ornament. Thanks a bunch and merry christmas to you and Debbie. Gonna be 61 tomorrow. Never thought I would make it to 40 let alone this far.
robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 11:36:12 (MST)
One would think it's easy to find a job, once you have been found Redundant. However, it's not. Been almost 3 months since I was laid off and put out to pasture. I average 7-10 Resumes a week, spend 3 days a week knocking on doors. But, Still nothing. I will not give up, I have set my sights on local, state and federal positions now, as they are the only ones with any jobs available. Believe it or not being a 10 point Veteran doesn't make it easy like it was in the 80's.
Dennis Fuerstenau
Haines City, FL USA - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 10:34:38 (MST)
Mel, I have Gary's addy...would you email me please. L-G
Gently
USA - Tuesday, December 08, 2009 at 06:51:27 (MST)
Galeman.......thanks a bunch for the "COOL" ornament we got in the mail today. I love it man. You are the best..................
Mark
USA - Monday, December 07, 2009 at 19:02:05 (MST)
HI Gale got it hanging it over the computer thank you
Art
USA - Monday, December 07, 2009 at 17:55:53 (MST)
Hi Bill got the book today thank I will send the money it for my AC crash.
Art
USA - Monday, December 07, 2009 at 15:54:46 (MST)
Gently... Yes U R right.. How do you know that...??? I am officaly a Medicare participant now.. I feel about the same as I did yesterday so it may not be all that bad after all.. One good thing about it all is that I am being taken out for dinner tonight.. Take care, C U L8r.... Think Atlanta in June....>>>
Kal
USA - Monday, December 07, 2009 at 14:25:35 (MST)
I'm thinkin' it's Kal's birthday today.......now how in the h--- do I know that?! Happy happy my dear friend. L-Gently
Gently
USA - Monday, December 07, 2009 at 14:05:38 (MST)
Gary, I need your address as the ornaments are ready to send out. attack81@sbcglobal.net is my e-mail :o)
Melody Pershall
Amarillo, TX USA - Monday, December 07, 2009 at 08:18:20 (MST)
Matt, Very sorry to hear of this. God be with you & yours & care for yourselves>>>Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
Sheridan, wyoming USA - Sunday, December 06, 2009 at 18:05:52 (MST)
Matt,We have our ups and downs.Even when Life throws us a curve.We will survive.Just hang in there and the whole world will help releave our pain.The man up stairs will watch over
us.Have a good Holidays.
Jim <
Dustoff>
IL USA - Saturday, December 05, 2009 at 23:34:53 (MST)
Matt have'nt been on for awhile,so sorry to hear about your wife. I know the hurt you feel as I have been through the pain of losing a loved one. Hang tough, you'll get though it.
lou rags
dover, de USA - Saturday, December 05, 2009 at 19:52:54 (MST)
HI Flight talk to Mark about what I sead about flowers for passing 129th wife & guy he liked it.
Art
USA - Saturday, December 05, 2009 at 11:23:44 (MST)
my thoughts are with you and hang in there because we know it is hard.
Rick England
USA - Saturday, December 05, 2009 at 04:49:05 (MST)
Matt, The Sartor family sends there best to your family during this tuff time.
John C Sartor, Sr.
Oceanside, CA USA - Saturday, December 05, 2009 at 02:11:55 (MST)
Gezz Matt, Sorry… How sad is it that she couldn’t stay for the better times. If she had to deal with you and the PTSD, I know for sure she’ll be in Heaven. Thoughs and Prayers
Frenchie
Bill French 68-9
SAV, Ga USA - Friday, December 04, 2009 at 23:05:08 (MST)
hi fLIGHT TAKE A LOOK AT ivetranus might find some one.
aRT
USA - Friday, December 04, 2009 at 22:48:30 (MST)
Coldwater lost in the state finals. 50 something to 25. Was in the game more then the score reflects. Dang it.............
Mark
USA - Friday, December 04, 2009 at 21:47:12 (MST)
Ah geezz Matt, that is terrible brother. You are in our prayers. So sorry to here about this..................
Mark
USA - Friday, December 04, 2009 at 21:33:04 (MST)
Matt, holding you and your family close in prayers.
Melody
Amarillo, USA - Friday, December 04, 2009 at 21:27:19 (MST)
Matt, my thoughts are with you and hang in there because we know it is hard.
Ken Strong
Lafayette, IN USA - Friday, December 04, 2009 at 13:04:50 (MST)
HI Matt I will put you & your familey on are prayer line & take care Brother.
Art
USA - Thursday, December 03, 2009 at 22:01:54 (MST)
Matt, our deepest condolences for your loss. You are in our prayers. Bill & Kat
Bill & Kat
USA - Thursday, December 03, 2009 at 20:42:30 (MST)
Matt... Sorry to learn of your loss. Our condolences to you and your familey.
Kal Bergstrom
USA - Thursday, December 03, 2009 at 20:32:47 (MST)
So sorry to hear that Matt. Debbie & I send our condolences to you and your family.
Gale
USA - Thursday, December 03, 2009 at 16:03:17 (MST)
Casey, you are in my prayers, Gary...
Gary Mount
USA - Thursday, December 03, 2009 at 15:18:29 (MST)
Matt, you are in our prayers. L-Gently
Gently
USA - Thursday, December 03, 2009 at 14:20:26 (MST)
Matt, sorry for your loss and wish you and your family the best.. Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Thursday, December 03, 2009 at 11:20:37 (MST)
Brothers and sisters I have not been able to join in many conversations for quite a while, as my wife of nearly 25 years, was dealing with a series of health issues. She lost her fight this last month. She had only recently made a few of the reunions (Reno and Orlando), but had hoped that her health would improve enough to make the upcoming one in Atlanta. I was almost 40 when we married (me for the first rime). I am sure that it was only through her love that I am here today. She was able to deal with the onset of PTSD and all the baggage that comes with it, to say she was a strong lady would be a huge understatement. Today is our youngest birthday she is 15, we had another who will be 18 on the 10th, there were also 2 from her previous marriage, and together we are all comforting each other. Perhaps after the New Year I will be back on the flight log, and feeling up to posting. Best wishes from my family to all of you for the upcoming holidays……..Always a Brother……..Tails Clear Left……Matt Casey
Matt Casey <
mcasey1947@msn.com>
Hemet, CA USA - Thursday, December 03, 2009 at 10:16:13 (MST)
HI if I hit the lottery I give you A no cost round trip to ware ever & foot the hole bill OK.
Art
USA - Thursday, December 03, 2009 at 09:00:55 (MST)
Freddy Boy, yup, Coldwater plays tomorrow for the State Championship with Youngstown Ursurline. Played them back in 2000 for the championship also. 6 state records fell during that game 1,045 yards of offense, 42 first downs. We lost 49-37. Kid for Usurline set state records that game of 280 yards rushing and 5 TD's. Kid from Coldwater set records of 12 receptions and 177 yards recieving. Coldwater QB set a record of completions,28-47. That game is still talked about and was brought up in the statewide media teleconference on Monday. Coach says that Ursline is a hard hitting team bent on taking out players. Last week they took out the top running back in the state early in the game. Last year the finals were live on TV around here. Hope they are again. Heard a interesting fact last week while listening to Coldwaters game on the radio. Since 2001 Coldwater is 122-14 under the present coach, John Reed.................
Mark
USA - Thursday, December 03, 2009 at 08:42:48 (MST)
Art, I told that wearing your clothes wrong side out would work! Plus a good luck chant I did for you............hey, DIBS if you hit the lottery. Heheeheee Enjoy your new found karma. Gale
Gale
USA - Thursday, December 03, 2009 at 05:52:13 (MST)
ART,Think you got it licked,Hang in there.Clear right.
Jim <
Dustoff>
IL USA - Thursday, December 03, 2009 at 03:27:11 (MST)
Hi flight I was just siting here & in the past 4or 5 day nothing bad has happen to me I think the bad luck took off & I hope itnever comes back.
Art
USA - Wednesday, December 02, 2009 at 22:52:42 (MST)
Check is in the mail, Gently, Red and Green will be fine, Melody. Have a nice evening.. Gary..
Gary Mount
lubbock, Tx USA - Wednesday, December 02, 2009 at 15:27:09 (MST)
HI Gently put the check in the mail tonight
Art
USA - Wednesday, December 02, 2009 at 15:02:45 (MST)
Gentlyjs@yahoo.com My email. Love Gently
Gently
USA - Wednesday, December 02, 2009 at 14:04:48 (MST)
Judith.. The check is in the mail.... THANK YOU!!!! Kal...>>>
Kal Bergstrom <
n8auu (at) email dot com>
Saint Joseph, MI USA - Wednesday, December 02, 2009 at 10:50:43 (MST)
Gently every time I send you a email it come back
Art
USA - Wednesday, December 02, 2009 at 09:52:14 (MST)
HI Gently it would not be hard to say wow would get it I like to give it to Mark that way every one could see it & it would be in the 129th things for now on how that sound.
Art
USA - Wednesday, December 02, 2009 at 09:50:42 (MST)
HI Gently put the hub in the next one you have ok
Art
USA - Wednesday, December 02, 2009 at 09:08:35 (MST)
HI flight some of you guys just sead the heck with it & joine the army like me I would not have had to go in so they sent me to cook school & would have staied at ft knox but I re up two more years to go to nam boy was I screw up but I would not change athing had a lot of brother in nam & ft hood it sucked ha privat you out of dress you going to wrote up & when thar shit head butter bar was jacking his mouth I told him I notgoing to be here much longer
& sead sir just between me & you seing I am all ready wrote up can I tell you one thing & he sead yes want dount kiss my ass you lifer he told me you got a lot of nerve how long were you in nam this will be third time for me & I see you was a grunt chopper crew member yes door gunner & I like what I do then he told me you guys that want to go over thar are somthing I will never figure out then I Salute him & walk away he sead take care I wont write you up & I told him thank you sir & sead you will make a good lifer.
Art
USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 19:06:14 (MST)
Fred, The draft did not stop until 1973. In 1969 they initiated the lottery which determined order for 1970 inductions. I know this because my # was really high and I never would have been drafted. But hell, look at all the fun I would have missed. What the lottery did do was do away with deferments for college etc. That allowed the gov. to say RVN was no longer a blue collar war.
Snapper
USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 18:24:11 (MST)
Gary Mount, email me your address. Gale
Gale
USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 17:50:42 (MST)
Paul I too favor the draft. There's no reason they have to keep going back. I believe that I would've been awol if they told me to go back to Nam. It's time to bring 'um home and take care of this country. I see these young boys standing around or skateboarding with their baggy drawers while men their age are fighting & dying over there............... No more walls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gale
USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 17:49:22 (MST)
Paul, I am about 8 hours away from Ft.Hood. My e-mail is: attack81@sbcglobal.net For the ornaments Gary you can choose any two colors you'd like. I have the normal colors of Christmas as well as the turquoise color and a lighter powder blue. I do have the black that is pictured but a warning is that it doesn't always hang right on the shatter proof ones.
Melody Pershall
Amarillo, USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 16:12:45 (MST)
GENTLY:was unable to find an addy for melody. MELODY may possibly pick up earings in person as we are looking at being in fort hood over the holidays. how far is it from you?FLIGHT i will not say anymore about the draft subject but would be interested in hearing others opinions, just keep it an opinion and not an argument as political tirades are not allowed on the site.look forward to all opinions.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 15:26:38 (MST)
Will do. thanks Gently, cold here today in West Texas, have a nice day. Tex 70-71..
Gary Mount
USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 15:13:00 (MST)
Bidding is over. A big Thanks to all who bid.....the Christmas fund has helped many...most of you infact. This is a re-build year so it was that much more important that we have a successful auction. The names I listed earlier remain the winners. Add up your totals, make the checks out to "129th AHC" and send them to: Judith "Gently" Singer, 2228 N. 115th Street, Wauwatosa WI 53226. Those who won, please email me(Gentlyjs@yahoo.com) the address you want the items shipped to. Paul M. and Gary, email your addys to Mel so she can send out the items you won that she made. Again...we did good...coulda done better..but we did good:>))) Love-Gently
Gently
USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 15:01:07 (MST)
sorry bout the double post
paul
USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 14:58:53 (MST)
that is exactly what i'm saying gary, i know it did a number on me just going once i can't imagine multiple deployments.it seems the decision has been made to send more troops now it is up to the citizens to step up to the plate and bear their part of the responsibility. if this can't happen then we need to get out.our troops are our most important resource.DO WE NEED ANOTHER WALL WITH 56,000 NAMES?
paul mcgrath
USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 14:58:02 (MST)
that is exactly what i'm saying gary, i know it did a number on me just going once i can't imagine multiple deployments.it seems the decision has been made to send more troops now it is up to the citizens to step up to the plate and bear their part of the responsibility. if this can't happen then we need to get out.our troops are our most important resource.DO WE NEED ANOTHER WALL WITH 56,000 NAMES?
paul mcgrath
USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 14:57:35 (MST)
OR MINE, Im just concerned about the multiple deployments and the damage it is doing mentally to our young troops..sincerely, Gary..
Gary Mount
USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 14:37:39 (MST)
I dont see how we can continually send troops over to Afghanistan and Iraq especially tour after tour, doesnt seem right nor how do we continue to afford it? Has to be some sort of solution to this, feel for our young people, please post address so I can send money for ornament, hope to make Kokomo this next year.. Gary..
Gary Mount
USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 14:33:54 (MST)
FRED;i fully support reinstating the draft,we spend 25 mill a year to administer the system which is still in place. we need to use it and give our guys and gals a break from multiple deployments.this is not a political statement in any way.
paul mcgrath
USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 14:22:43 (MST)
Fred, I wanted to say I feel for our guys now with so many tours but still don't want to hear the word draft. My brother in laws who came to Kokomo in 2007 from Florida has one son who after college enlisted and is now in Basic. After that he is going to school for EOD being enlisted. I knew several guys who were in WW2, Korea & Vietnam before they retired. I also know my dad was in the Marines from 1927-31 and got out as a PFC, called back as an E-6 during the War but he spent three years fighting in Central America his first time around. We have always come up with the best people to serve and enough old guys to jump in and show them a few tricks. In the future I see many more ladies fighting along side the guys as they are earning the right to be there. Now as a nation we just need to get them through school.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 13:00:25 (MST)
Ken you are so good to us! L-Gently
Gently
USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 12:23:38 (MST)
Yea Marky Mark, I was home for Thanksgiving, and went to the Columbus Marion-Franklin and Cincy Winston Woods football game in Centerville, Ohio.......Marion -Franklin got their butts kicked.....Coldwater is going to the Championship game.....Right?......I also got to see my nephew, who`s going to Shippenburg State and a Army ROTC cadet. But we got into a debate,......yea I like to argue......About Quality of soldier in the military now.......But I found this posted out on the internet, and I thought it was interesting. It`s about the REINSTATE THE DRAFT! ..................................The Draft ended as the American People turned against the war in Vietnam......As long as the Majority of Americans supported the War (and that was till about the middle of 1968) the Draft was producing the best Army the US had ever fielded. Today's army has better equipment but that is the result of 40 years of technology improvements, but man for man given the same level of equipment (And the training on that equipment) the army of 1965-1968 was the best army the US ever produced.
Yes, the WWII soldiers were good, but the "middle management" i.e. Sergeants and up in the Enlisted Ranks, Captain and up among Officers did NOT have the experience the same ranks had by the time of Vietnam, thus the Vietnam era army was just a better army, it matched the WWII army in terms of Privates and Colonels and above and exceeded it in terms of E-5s and above in the enlisted ranks, and Captains to Colonels in the Officers rank do to the greater experience those ranks had prior to Vietnam (During WWII the US Army expanded so much that the pre-war upper end company officers and lower end Field grade officers, Captain, Majors and Colonels were quickly promoted to Colonel or higher ranks, with a similar jump among pre-war enlistees to Sergeants. You did NOT see that in Vietnam for you had a much larger army in the 1950s then we had in the 1930s, thus these ranks retained a good many experience NCOs and Officers that did NOT exist in WWII given the rapid expansion for WWII).
Today, the enlistee ranks are poor compared to the enlistee ranks of WWII and Vietnam. If you were 18, you were drafted in WWII, and in Vietnam unless you were in Collage Drafted (and that changed in 1969). Many of today's enlistees (E-4s and below) are NOT of the same caliber as who was being drafted in WWII and Vietnam. If you have any real option you do not enlist. You could avoid the draft during Vietnam if you were careful (as did President Clinton and VP Chaney) but most young men did not (Or picked the solution of enlisting, thus getting the chance to select were you wanted to go in the Military, even in the army). Overall the Draft provided the US Army with a higher grade of troops until the Country turned against the War in 1968. As the Country turned against the War starting in 1968, so did the enlistee ranks and with it the army as a whole. Various efforts were made to work around this problem at that time , but Nixon seeing how the people and the Army saw each other as one and the same and wanting to be able to get elected decided to separate the army from the people and did so by abolishing the draft. With the abolishment of the Draft the US Army decline even more so (and never did fully recovered except in the sense the Army would follow orders come the 1980s). Thus the main purpose of abolishment of the Draft was for Nixon to be able to tell the American people the only people going to Vietnam were the people who wanted to go. No one is being forced to do so. The Joint Chiefs opposed the abolishment of the Draft for they foresaw (and were seeing) the decline in the quality of the Enlisted ranks.
Fred Skaggs
Annandale, NJ USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 12:17:10 (MST)
Gently, just getting a head of myself but was getting ready to send a check in the next couple days. Also I am working on the sites at Kokomo & will have to see what we can come up with. They did take out the garden so am trying to find out about that area too.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 11:27:39 (MST)
SIMON;i know of a canadian that served in dustoff circa 1969
paul mcgrath
lasalle, USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 09:48:30 (MST)
To: 129th AHC. But the bidding isn't over yet. How did that camp site thing work out for Rick England? We sure would want him and his weird crew close to us at kokomo::>))L-G
gently
USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 09:05:44 (MST)
Gently, do want checks made out to: 129th Christmas Fund or something else?
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 08:14:30 (MST)
Bidding stops today at 4PM CST. No bidders for the home-made cookies??? Gee...how nice that you all have women who like to bake. You could at least buy them one of our 509 t-shirts for their efforts! A great gift for that girl who's been on your side for the last 30-40 $@#%@#$^@#$ years! Paul G, XXL t-shirt ($15)and earrings($35) are yours at this point. Art, rotor hub yours ($75), Mark kids shirts yours($60) huey model yours($85), Kal 2 t-shirts yours($100), Paul B key fob ($3) xlg shirt($10) and Paperweight($25) yours, Bunkie buddy, paperweight yours ($25), Gary, ornament yours($50), Ken, Huey print yours($50). Lots of 509 key fobs to sell. That's where it stands right now......I will post bids throughout that day. Let's go! By the way, that rotor chain bracelet should be donated to the fund:>))))) Love-Gently
Gently
USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 07:40:59 (MST)
Afternoon flight, now here's a question for you. How many Brits saw combat in Vietnam? Do you know of any or where such information might be found. The reason why I ask the question is that at work we have been contacted by a guy from Liverpool who joined the Australian Army and ended up serving in Vietnam. We were wondering how common it was for Brits to have served? Any ideas? Thanks for your time guy. Simon.
Simon Johnson <
simon_johnson@talktalk.net>
Mellor, 509 County UK - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 06:56:31 (MST)
going back out this morning.Headed somewhere into Maryland,gotta be there by tonight.
ALVIS
USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 03:37:53 (MST)
Yeah,Bunkbuddy,I need a paper weight to hold down things that are flying off my desk.I may be returning usa sooner than planed.Maybe 10 Dec.
Jim <
Dustoff>
IL USA - Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 01:31:27 (MST)
HAVE TAIL ROTOR CHAIN BRACELETS FOR SALE. FOLDING CLASP TYPE BAND. $250 EMAIL ; LFNL304@YAHOO.COM
larry ford <
LFNL304@YAHOO.COM>
GOSHEN, IN. USA - Monday, November 30, 2009 at 22:42:55 (MST)
GENTLY;I BELIEVE I HAVE BIDS ON THE EARINGS AND T SHIRT. I THINK JIM HAS THE PAPERWEIGHT AND YOU HAVE PBUTTER COOKIES. AM I CORRECT?
paul mcgrath
USA - Monday, November 30, 2009 at 11:52:37 (MST)
Rooms for LZLambeau May 21-22, 2010: Paul/Ida, Jim/Sue, Ray/Gale, and Mark and Dee. I think I only have two rooms(maybe 3) left. Options: 1. We can double up. 2. You can all stay at my house in Milwaukee for the weekend(2 hour ride to Green Bay). 3. I'll check with Ron Paye and see what he's got left for rooms. Give me your feed back at Gentlyjs@yahoo.com. Art, the rotor hub is holding at your bid of $75 right now. Paul, one paper weight, key fob and t-shirt are the high bids right now. L-Gently
Gently
USA - Monday, November 30, 2009 at 11:13:07 (MST)
Gale, That's no S----. I knew that the no fire Zones existed. However, When you clearly saw that this is "Charlie". Weapons sticking out of the baskets. I just hope that these weapons didn't kill any U.S. Service man.
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo, TX USA - Monday, November 30, 2009 at 09:23:12 (MST)
oh, it is a 129th bird.
alvis
USA - Sunday, November 29, 2009 at 16:38:51 (MST)
remember a while back when some fellow came in here asking about a certian tail number,cause he and some others down in South Africa,owned a sight seeing company,and they wanted info to make their "Huey" ride ,capture more bragging rights.The impression they gave (me anyway) was it was a straight up money making deal and they didnt give a crap about the 129th or us.They ask for pics,stories,ect.I didnt answer the request,dont know if others did,aint none of my biz.Anyway, for you new folks,or olders folks that have forgot,,here is there sight addy.http://www.thehueyhelicopterco.com/default.html
alvis
USA - Sunday, November 29, 2009 at 16:37:47 (MST)
and take the Pacers with you.
alvis
USA - Sunday, November 29, 2009 at 14:39:45 (MST)
GO COLTS !!!!!!!
Gale
Clinton, In US of A - Sunday, November 29, 2009 at 13:59:55 (MST)
HI we had a dog with us you did not try to tuch him you might come up with a few finger guy & the dog staied close to each other there was a price on there heads.
Art
USA - Saturday, November 28, 2009 at 22:26:31 (MST)
Gently, can you send me your email address? Pls send to wolfcms@aol.com. Thanks. Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Saturday, November 28, 2009 at 20:29:19 (MST)
HI when I was a grunt things hapen like that to us some time the hell with it & rip them a new ass hole we flowed one & he took us to a bunker of concret it would hold 30 or40 guy & 1 case of c4 left one big hole & itwas about 3ft thick & you tell me ware they they got it from took a lot of bikes to do that job. I like the job of flying out with a shit hook they let blater out the back were there were caves & then we open up & if there was eany one in there it would suck there head out there ass.
Art
USA - Friday, November 27, 2009 at 19:29:57 (MST)
Bruno - Think you mixed me up with someone else. I was a CE/G not pilot. Free fire zone?!! Wasn't that a joke - no wonder we couldn't win the war!!! BTW....why is it that the only ones who adhere to the Geneva Convention is us?! What the Japanese did was ever bit as horrid as what the Germans did. And look at whats taking place in the middle east. If we're gonna fight a war, then let the Generals fight the war!! God bless General Patton! Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Friday, November 27, 2009 at 19:23:04 (MST)
It was much easier when they would just be stupid enough to shoot at us first. Otherwise you didn't know who they were, just a bunch of guys wearing black w/straw hats and AK's.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Friday, November 27, 2009 at 16:23:19 (MST)
Jim Westwang (Smitty) and I had "firefly" duty one night. We went up because reports of movement beyond the wire, on the 61st ide of the hill. We went up,circled around to that side of Lane. (away from the ROK side of Lane.) Sure enough, some bodies were down there,moving toward the wire.When we lit them up,we called in for premission to go hot. It had to be relayed all the wa up the chain,including the ROKs,then back down again. They said go ahead and go hot...but it had taken so long the were gone,melted off into he darkness. Never seen Smitty so mad. He went ape shit. Another time we were throwing out Chui Hoi leaflets. We were above ground, small arm fire, but that didnt stop them from shooting at us. We couldnt return fire...was a "peace mission". Another time, had just cleared the Vung Ro pass, on the Tuy Hoa side.Out there in no mans land, a figure started running toward some huge rock formations. The ROK Brass o board, motioned for me to shoot them.Again, b the time we recieved permission to go hot, it was to late,they had disapeared.
alvis
USA - Friday, November 27, 2009 at 12:39:22 (MST)
Bill Wolf (CONT'd) for some reason Bill changes directon to a R/H turn. When we come around, Charlies are gone. Since we're @ tree top, & Charlies hiding around in the Bush,They may have had us in their sites. Bill gains altitude. We go to reload & do another sortie. Bill said that no permission had been given to blast Charlie. Talk about rules on engagement. These rules are F------' Up.
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo, TX USA - Friday, November 27, 2009 at 11:08:53 (MST)
Happy Thanksgiving Everyone. I truely am thankfull.
Bill Wolf: Yeah buddy,. The rules of engagement suck. During "Eastertide'72" We've just finished one of our sorties & on our way to reload & go back. On the way back, Bill Shilleto was "low leveling" back like a Banshee.We caught two on horseback. They were dressed in Vietnamese attire. No Nva attire. On the side of the horses were some Baskets.If I recall they looked like they were made out of Bamboo reed material. Sticking out of the baskets were the muzzles of AK's, SKS. Bill did a "Sharp" left turn on my side . I had them in my sites. Bill comes on the intercom & said to hold of. This area "wasnot" a free fire zone & "had toget permission".WE're circling around to the left all this time. I couldn't say how long. For some reason
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo, TX USA - Friday, November 27, 2009 at 11:01:21 (MST)
Flight,Just arrived Okinawa,Japan.Mark,are you still looking for the 129th BULL DOG?I have some friend who do embrodery on Islad.I will check to see if we can make a cap for you.OR a Patch!!Right now I will be here untill the 9th Dec.Hope everyone had a good
Thanksgiveing.
Jim <Dustoff>
IL USA - Thursday, November 26, 2009 at 23:37:03 (MST)
Happy thanksgiving to all. I am VERY GREATFUL for you being in our lives. God Bless all of you and your loved ones................always a brother..........
Mark
USA - Thursday, November 26, 2009 at 18:11:42 (MST)
HI I would try everthing but the clothing wait I probley fit in good with the way the kids ware them know or start somthing new just siting home moving all that stuf back in the room nothing much going on here just cant get into it
Art
USA - Thursday, November 26, 2009 at 14:59:36 (MST)
Happy Thanksgiving everyone! I am spending a lot of time thinking of those who are serving our country all over the world today. I think some loose track that they are not only there for us but in hopes of making a better life for the people they are fighting for. God Bless them and I do hope that the Afghan children grow up in a country which is better. Just as I hope my Grandkids grow up here and get back our country before it goes broke..
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Thursday, November 26, 2009 at 10:01:35 (MST)
Art, sometimes things seems worse than they really are. Here are some things to do
that might change your bad luck to good luck.......................although,
I would be very careful experimenting with the last one. Heheehee
1. Get yourself a good luck charm; I highly recommend authentic four-leaf clover. Or...
2. Step in a shadow! Or...
3. Place sugar in your cup before the teabag. And last, but finally not least,
for those of you who are willing to take risks and go out on a limb,
4. Wear your clothing inside-out.
All these superstitions are guaranteed to improve your luck - as well as receive
attention and some stares from onlookers, for sure!
Try these and laugh at yourself a little more & we might be calling you "Lucky Art!"
Always a brother!!!!!!! Gale HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL!!!!
Gale
USA - Thursday, November 26, 2009 at 08:20:06 (MST)
HI I give $75on the rotor hub Art.
Art
USA - Wednesday, November 25, 2009 at 21:57:01 (MST)
As much time and effort as I have put into stripping and polishing this ½ tail rotor hub named “Rosebud” I would like to place my bid for $50. on her.. Need I say more.. Or bid more$$$
Bill French
USA - Wednesday, November 25, 2009 at 21:45:32 (MST)
Gently.....Dee and I will be there in May also. So get us a smoking room please.......
Mark
USA - Wednesday, November 25, 2009 at 20:39:24 (MST)
Bill Wolf, I'm becoming more convinced everyday we're living in some weird parallel universe... black is white and wrong is right, raise taxes on the unemployed, etc. Little of what we're witnessing makes ANY sense at all. May God have mercy on us...
Dave Powers
USA - Wednesday, November 25, 2009 at 19:30:40 (MST)
Damn,I hate to hear that about Shadow. I flew with him many a time and he was a darn good pilot and a darn good guy.It took a special kind of courage for a black man to fly over there..in my time,there was a tremendous amount of social pressure on any black warrior that flew, pilot or crewman.Shadow was one of the good guys,he world is a poorer place in the loss of that man.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, November 25, 2009 at 18:57:51 (MST)
Judith, Jim and I are planning on attending. I've been to the web site. We're trying to bring another VietNam vet and his wife with us. Sue & Jim H.
Jim & Sue Hydinger
USA - Wednesday, November 25, 2009 at 18:24:02 (MST)
HI me again I was wright it still with me went to open the door put the key in & it would not come out had to get some plyers & rip it out & I dont even want to tuch a gun I probley put a hole in my foot my dog staying clear of me go to get her run for the bed under ityou think she know somthing I dont could be.
Art
USA - Wednesday, November 25, 2009 at 15:42:16 (MST)
HI flight I give $30.00 tail rotor hub & they say bad luck runs in 3 I am at 5 now one more & it might end & I found a nother 129th poster I send it to you some one might like to have it ok.
Art
USA - Wednesday, November 25, 2009 at 09:21:19 (MST)
Gently; ida and i will be at lambeau that weekend.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Wednesday, November 25, 2009 at 09:20:35 (MST)
Oh Dust-off....the 129er's are now finding out what a Santa you are to them...bless your heart bunkie buddy! Now get back safely! Keep me posted on the wedding:>))) Geez Art......I'm trying to get money, etc together to buy my first house, if that happens you better come and live with me so I can keep you safe....yikes! And you too Bunkie. If anyone is joining us(Ron Paye, Alex) next May at Lambeau field in Green Bay for the "Welcome Home Vietnam Vets" get your free tickets online now at LZLAMBEAU.Org. and let me know so I can figure out what to do about rooms. Ron is in charge of the fly-over and is working hard on making it very special....it'd be great to see some of you here(Green Bay) to applaude his efforts and hang out with. I'll be your "mom" while you're here....so your worries are mine. Maybe those characters across the ocean will join us?? Now......let's bid.....lots of very very cool things:>)))) I'll update one more time on Monday. Happy T-Day everyone. I'm here of you need me. L-Gently
gently
USA - Wednesday, November 25, 2009 at 08:30:16 (MST)
Most of you who know me know that I'm a pretty easy going person. It takes a LOT to get me upset and even more to anger me. Today - I reached both those thresholds and surpassed them. I am SO HOT right now I can hardly see straight. I hear that the military is going to try the Seals who captured the terrorist who tortured, mutiliated, and hung from a bridge our servicement because the Seals gave him a bloody lip!!! A bloody lip!!! What kind of joke is this?? Mr. Secretary of Defense - you are an embarrasement and disgrace to our military and to our country if you allow this to happen!! Then our so-called "Commander-in-Chief" refused to send a letter of condolence to the family of a member of the Air Force who committed suicide overseas. Suicide is most often the result of severe depression and a combination of physiological issues. Many of us know someone who took their life and know that this is very much a medical issue. This serviceman obviously felt he could no longer deal with overwhelming issues and, unfortunately, felt this was his only choice. This is one more reason I am developing a disgust for our President. I have sent an email to the Secretary of Defense expressing my outrage - but suspect he will never see or read it. Thank you all for letting me vent today! On a more pleasant note...for those of you who wanted books, it took a while for my daughter to find them at our house in Colorado (we are out in California working) and we will be getting them out in the mail shortly....thank you so much for your patience. For those of you who wanted one and wanted to send a check - send one for $35 to Gently to add to the fund. To ALL OUR YOU (and especially to Mark and our "Mom" Gently - have a wonderful and safe Thanksgiving!!! Eat, Drink, and be lethargic!!!!! Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Wednesday, November 25, 2009 at 08:01:34 (MST)
Gently, Not sure what half of a tail/rotor hub looks like.But if gael, can make his shed fly with it so can I.I Bid $10.00 on it.After all x-mas is just around the cornor.
Jim <Dusto0ff>
IL USA - Tuesday, November 24, 2009 at 22:41:42 (MST)
Geezzzz Art, you are runnin' into some bad luck. Guess we can look at it this way. It can get better..............thanks for the auction update Gently.................
Mark
USA - Tuesday, November 24, 2009 at 21:26:06 (MST)
HI Flight well luck hasent change went to wal mart lost the truck key & I got the truck back from the body shop & went to pick up Josh puled into hardy to get a drink my foot sliped off the brake & hit the gas jump the curve & hit a pole gide wire & tore up the front bumperhere goes $400.00 to get a new one & that me puting it on & if they put it on $200.00 more & if I fell in a barol of flowers I come out smelling like shit that how my luck is running.
Art
USA - Tuesday, November 24, 2009 at 20:15:12 (MST)
No one..no one...has bid on Frenchie's 1/2 tail rotor hub...go figure(Gail needs that for his "Shed"). Paul still good at $35 for the earrings, Dustoff still good at $25 for the paper weight(we have 2 and they are cool!!), Mark good at $85 for the Huey model, Kal good at $50 each for the 509 Men's Lg and Med t-shirts, Ken still good at $50 for the 509 print, Paul still good at $15 for 2xlg 509 t-shirt. Gary still good at $50 for Mel's ornament. Mark, kids t-shirts are sizes xsmall size 24, small size 26, med size 28, lg size 30 and xlg at 32, and your bid on all of them for $60 is good. Did I miss anyone or any higher bid??? 12/1 is the end of it......next Tuesday at 4PM CST. Let's go!!! We have lots of stuff!!!! May you all have a blessed day of graditude on Thursday...I know I'm grateful for you. Love-Gently
Gently
USA - Tuesday, November 24, 2009 at 09:32:30 (MST)
HI flight that face book is a thing tryed every thing & still cant get it & there no way I will try them & there had some people have there places broken into now I going to get a 9 mm with about 5 clips & I let them get in & I will take out one leg & then he will pay for the blood he leav on the carpet.
Art
USA - Monday, November 23, 2009 at 18:14:15 (MST)
Art, hang in there! Wish I could do the same thing like a bear. Can't sleep or get around so it seems like days just pass by in my home. Jim, sounds like a great trip and glad you are holding up. Again it is hard for us guys to travel anymore. Rick, got you on Facebook & don't feel bad as I don't get it either. All have a great holiday!
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Monday, November 23, 2009 at 10:10:14 (MST)
HI I be glad when the coppet guy come today then I can put the room together well take car I going to see if I can get some sleep got a couple last nightthis is a ruff time for me I just wish I could just sleep from november to jan with Fray 13 nov & Glenda 21 nov it make it a bad time for me. hope every one has a happy holday.
Art
USA - Monday, November 23, 2009 at 01:23:17 (MST)
Melody,The picture was really great after it finished loading on my computer.Mark is right.We should post it on Yahoo.I was trying to take a picture today here in HongKong on my new camera.Hope it works and then I will be able to share it with the Flight.I am leaveing HK on thursday afternoon for Okinawa,Japan.More later.
Jim <Dustoff>
IL USA - Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 20:58:05 (MST)
Gary, thanks for the heads up on the cards to send. Also if you do not want to pick one of their canned messages, go the bottom and click on other. It will let you send a customized one as long as you don't mention any organization names.
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 11:26:12 (MST)
Most may have seen this before but it's still a good way to help others avoid some of the problems we had before,during and after our tour of duty. *******Snoopy ********XEROX IS DOING SOMETHING COOL ************
If you go to this web site, http://www.letssaythanks.com/ you can pick out a thank you card and Xerox will print it and it will be sent to a soldier that is currently serving in Iraq . ***********
You can't pick out who gets it, but it will go to a member of the armed services. ******
It is FREE and it only takes a second.*******
Our soldiers over there need to know we are behind them.***********
This takes just 10 seconds and it's a wonderful way to say thank you.****
Please take the time and please take the time to pass it on for others to do. ***We can never say enough thank you's. *****You will find a optional entry note to send that shows it was sent by a veteran that understands some of the concequences of what we do.***Thanks, Gary
Gary Woodward
Memphis, Tn USA - Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 05:35:08 (MST)
I just started facebook still trying to figure it out. I need a TM or I am stupid. I am not good at the computer. sometimes I can send a message or add a friend. They say I have no list. Oh well! Flight be careful out there
Rick England
USA - Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 05:01:58 (MST)
Cool photo Gale......but......I used to put photos in here too and for those that have a slow computer or who are still on dial/up it really slows the FLIGHT LOG down for them. May I suggest that we continue to use the YAHOO 129th web site for photos.............
Mark
USA - Saturday, November 21, 2009 at 17:50:08 (MST)
Smitty: You are right. The Phoenix VHCMA is where shadow really got ill. You were taking care of him. I think he had to leave the reunion early. He will be missed. But, never forgotten. Have a busy work week ahead. So, Would like to wish all the 129th Family a Wonderful Thanksgiving from Liz and myself. Always A Brother!!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Saturday, November 21, 2009 at 08:41:16 (MST)
Melody, wow......it worked. Thanks
Gale
USA - Saturday, November 21, 2009 at 08:06:44 (MST)

Gale
USA - Saturday, November 21, 2009 at 08:05:17 (MST)
Flight,Made it to HongKong,new area,all the girls are running hot and cold,pimp on every cornor.My friend George Yhee who makes jewelry was sick with a touch of the flu.Raymond Ko,put me up for a few nights at his house.Seems like the auction going good.Gently,how am I sitting on the paper weight?I picked up a special item for my bunkbuddy.Will send it after I get home.Everybody have a good Thanksgiveing.Gottago.
jim <dustoff>
IL USA - Saturday, November 21, 2009 at 02:08:02 (MST)
Freddy Boy, Coldwater played backyard/league/division revail St. henry tonight and won in the 4th OT. Was 21-21 at end of regulation. Ended it 47-41..........Go Cavs.........
Mark
USA - Friday, November 20, 2009 at 21:03:38 (MST)
Gently, What are the kids sizes of those 509 t/shirts? I would like to bid on 6 of them at $60.00. And what ever the bid is on the Huey Model I will bid $10.00 more. Can you confirm that?...........
Mark
USA - Friday, November 20, 2009 at 21:01:08 (MST)
GENTLY;i believe i was out bid on the earings so i'll make it 35$. might want to list current bids. 1 order of peanut butter cookies is a go.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, USA - Friday, November 20, 2009 at 12:23:29 (MST)
Ok..ok...here's the list of items for the auction again and it's over at 4PM CST on the 1st. Let's get going on this....and Ida...one batch of peanuty peanut butter cookies for a $20 bid please. Challengers?? **** a wallet chain measuring in at 21 inches. The chain its self is very strong stainless steel and holds up very well.*******Then there is the earrings, the round crystals are swarovski in red magma. The short section of chain is in sterling silver and the ear wires are surgical steel.******* Lastly is the ornament cover. One on a black shatter-proof ornament and on a turquoise ornament. Its aluminum so its nice and light.********6 batches of cookies (5 dozen a batch) from Paul and Ida******Lots from our English friend:>)))Phil of 509 and his cool crew! Model Huey(very cool!)** Huey 509 Key fobs** Huey 509/129th AHC Paperweights(very neat!!) ** Huey 509 T-shirts (Men’s, Women’s and Kid’s – 1 of each size, Ron Paye lives in his)** A very special Huey 509 Print..so let's go! L-Gently
Gently
USA - Friday, November 20, 2009 at 11:29:00 (MST)
Flight, I notice that LZ Atlanta 2010 info is on the VHCMA site and it looks like we can make reservations already. Debbie & I are planning on going and some of you remember that I proposed to Debbie (with the help of Kal & Gently) at LZ Altlanta in 2003.Hope you can all make it!!! Gale
Gale
USA - Friday, November 20, 2009 at 08:06:27 (MST)
Alton Page..........slow hand salute goes out to a fine man. We were at 3 reunions together,the last one at LZ Indy. I recall that he was impressed with the Indiana countryside. I wish the 129th had been notified...............................Gale
Gale
USA - Friday, November 20, 2009 at 08:00:27 (MST)
Names from VHPA, all died AFTER their RVN tours, numbers given were years served in 129th AVN/AHC, * = new record since 8-15-08; ? = data missing. Rest in peace...
CW4 Peter Abplanalp 70-71; WO1 Robert Adams 66; 1LT James Bright ?; CW2 Michael Bruce 68-69; *CPT Nelson Cooper 69-70; ? Robert Davis 68-69; CPT Alan Fry 69; MAJ Carl Jones 68-69; WO1 Kenneth Kinne 69-70; WO1 Peter Krutschewski 70; CWO Curtis Lewis 71-72; CW4 Michael Lopez 66-67; *WO1 Larry McKay 69-70; ? Kenneth McLaughlin 65-66; WO1 Donald Orr 65-66; *WO1 Alton Page 72; *WO1 Robert Plummer 66-67; CWO John Richardson 67; CW4 Richard Rubiolo 66; *WO1 J.C. Watson 68; *WO1 Frederick Zandri 71-72
I flew my first regular mission as a gunner for Peter Abplanalp, Carl Brader was my crew chief, and we had an ARVN pilot training with us. Both Mr. Abplanalp and Spc. Brader were short timers.
Dave Powers
USA - Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 13:53:28 (MST)
Jim(Bunkie Buddy) I'm glad the trip was a safe one. Sorry my passport application was denied or I'd have been there with you. I can't believe my threat to Nixon is still on the books...geez:>))Love-Gently
Gently
USA - Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 12:04:40 (MST)
Jim:don't bring me back a sweet little oriental girl , ida said she'll get pissed. i tried but she wouldn't listen to my side of the argument. take care
paul mcgrath
USA - Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 10:56:20 (MST)
Jim, Have a safe flight! Bill
Bill Wolfl
USA - Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 07:25:59 (MST)
Dust-Off Jim....thanks for checking in brother.............
Mark
USA - Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 21:09:20 (MST)
Flight,Greetings from Tokyo,Japan.Weather fine,Paid my respects to my wifes tomb today.
Getting ready for my flight to HongKong tomorrow am.Will log on from there.Everybody
have a good thanksgiveing.
Jim <Dustoff>
IL USA - Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 17:46:31 (MST)
I'm so sorry about the loss of Shadow...we met him in San Antonio(I think) at the re-union. Smitty, God bless you for taking care of him while we were there. Animal...so very sorry. Heart-breaking. Rick, contact Ken for sites at Kokomo, not Ron Paye. And all checks for our 129th books should be coming to me(Christmas Fund)....we paid Bill for the pubilication of the books 2 or 3 years ago and all monies over that amount is to go into the Christmas fund. That amount was also met a couple of years ago, so send me the checks. I'm glad you're still buying them...I haven't gotten any money from there for alonggggggggggg time and we need it. So there's at least 2 checks coming, Bill? Love-Gently
Gently
USA - Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 12:51:31 (MST)
HI Jim A SLOW HAND salute TO A BROTHER & one you both will be with each other like old time he just waiting that day & like we all will be together GOD just not like his people suffer like that & one day GOD call them home. Art
Art
USA - Tuesday, November 17, 2009 at 21:23:50 (MST)
My memory is bad it was CA Phoenix not San Anton. Love you Mark>> smitty
jim westwang 71 72
sheridan, wy USA - Tuesday, November 17, 2009 at 21:07:49 (MST)
Sorry for your lose Smitty...............
Mark
USA - Tuesday, November 17, 2009 at 20:35:11 (MST)
as you know, Shadow was a good friend of mine, when we were in San Anton, he was becoming very ill & i had to care for him some, Had had big fluid filled blisters on his legs & he revealed to me that he had begun Kidney Dialysis. I am sure this brought it about. I am very Sad, I have been trying to contact him, Not hard enough i guess. He saved my ass once in Nam & i owed him. I will miss him always>>> Slow hand Salute to a friend & brother>>> Smitty
jim w 71-72
sherida, wy USA - Tuesday, November 17, 2009 at 20:26:15 (MST)
WOW..........bummy bout Shawdow.............good man............Slow Hand Salute..........
Mark
USA - Tuesday, November 17, 2009 at 20:25:46 (MST)
GENTLY WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN
paul mcgrath
USA - Tuesday, November 17, 2009 at 13:31:19 (MST)
Goodmorning Flight: Alot of commo since I was on last. Had to work Veteran's Day. But, heard from Gary and another vet I used to work with. I remember Veterans' Day 2002. stayed in Crsytal City. To my surprise the 1st cav. was staying there also. Met with Gen. Hal Moore, Joe Galloway and the surving members of LZ XRay. Bob Woods and I were invided to march in the purade with them directly behing the color guard. Also, met up with Rick England and Sam & Sharon Hennesse. Gary I think mentioned the 1 Cav. 65/66. We of the 129th and the 1st Cav. were in Kontom over night. 129th was heading to Dakto. The cav. was heading south. Hate to hear about Alton Shadow Page. He was a great Brother!! We was lucky to have him attend some the VHCMA reunions. Slow Hand salute!! Always A Brother!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Tuesday, November 17, 2009 at 09:52:46 (MST)
hi Bill here my hole name
Arthur Foster
USA - Monday, November 16, 2009 at 17:34:34 (MST)
HI every one Bill 4716 youngsmill rd. Hogansville GA. 30230 & need yours to send money ok
Art
USA - Monday, November 16, 2009 at 16:52:48 (MST)
Animal, Shadow lived in Columbia South Carolina. I ran a search of the "State" newspaper obits section for the past 2 years and in fact Shadow passed on 4-24-08. Funeral was for "Alton Page, US Army veteran and Univ. of South Carolina graduate" etc. He was 58. That is sad. Part I read did not list cause of death. Sorry to confirm this bad news. Snapper 4/70-4/71
Jeff Sauers
Lake Norman, NC USA - Monday, November 16, 2009 at 16:31:41 (MST)
I just got the new VHPA directory and noticed Alton(Shadow)Page listed as DAT (Died after tour). This would be sad news indeed. I know he's been in contact in the last year or so, can anyone confirm this unfortunate news? I know as we get older we'll be seeing more and more of our friends and brothers pass on, but it's troubling just the same. Alton was in my flight school class as well as the 129th.
Greg henkel, 1st Flight Platoon, 7/71-2/72
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Monday, November 16, 2009 at 15:27:36 (MST)
I think Alzheimers is really setting in!!!! Mark, send me your snail mail addy one more time. The brother who recently sent me a check for a book, please send me your snail mail again and I'll get your (and Marks) book out this week. Art - send me your snail mail addy and I'll get you a book. Brothers - I still have a few books left. They are in Colorado and I'm in California (for another year) - so it takes a while to get my daughter (who lives there) to get them and mail then. Thanks for being so patient!!!!
A side question - does any have the name and email of the attorney lady that is always at our reunions? I need to ask a question of her related to my younges boy.
Hope you are all well and miss you all very much!!!!
Bill
Bill Wolf <Bulldog129thAHC>
USA - Monday, November 16, 2009 at 12:00:00 (MST)
J.W.....I pass that display every year on my way to Kokomo. I leave about 30 miles due east of there. Fairmont In. Home town of James Dean..............
Mark
USA - Sunday, November 15, 2009 at 19:13:20 (MST)
I made a quick trip to Indiana this weekendand saw a helicopter display at a American Legion post at Fairmount {about 30 minutes from Kokomo} with Black Widow nose art. I went to farms in Monticello and Albany. Take care.
J. W. Wilson
Kinston, N. C. USA - Sunday, November 15, 2009 at 18:38:31 (MST)
Just thinkin'......my ETS was 41 years ago today....WOW!!
Gale
USA - Sunday, November 15, 2009 at 16:31:33 (MST)
Hey, just goof'n with ya Jim. As far a making it to the end in one piece? Due to the orange, my medical charts are thicker then the NY phone book, but yes indeed, I made it to the rocking chair after 34 years of burning up the sky and raising hell. Even made it to today and that says it ALL my dear bro.
Backlash
Miami, USA - Sunday, November 15, 2009 at 13:38:42 (MST)
Hi flight well just got heat & air back gut up had a glass of milk & some pop tarts & just some food for the first time today & when I get doing somthing I for get the time but when it hit me I am about to fall out& it so nice to be cool down here an no med shit on sleep to night. Art
Art
USA - Saturday, November 14, 2009 at 19:43:38 (MST)
HI I could only eat turkey leg & backlash I dont eat when I fly I like what I eat to stay down so I waited to later to eat you would not get me up flying & I wish it would happen. Art
Art
USA - Saturday, November 14, 2009 at 14:06:12 (MST)
Backlash,No! I cannot eat a whole turkey.I have saved the lifes of many tunnel rats,and have many friends that liked to dress up in black Pajamas and recon the villages at night.
Not 4x only 3x.Glad you made the end of the tunnel in one piece.Have a nice Thanksgiveing.
Jim <dustoff>
IL USA - Saturday, November 14, 2009 at 14:05:30 (MST)
To Art: Becareful of what you wish for, you just might get. In 34 years, I have yet to hear, " WOW, let's do it again". This is last toy Uncle loaned to me before clipping the old wings and lord do I miss her. http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac313/Backlash57/KenoshaAirshow2000-.jpg Her name is Grim Reaper and one bad-ass bird. Dustoff: I have been following the auction and what the heck is all this XXXXL T-shirt stuff? Do you remember those few little tiny shits you big guys used to woop-ass on after school? Well we never really grew very much and were all snatched up and turned into tunnel rats or fast-movers. I was a lucky one at 5'4. Can you eat a whole turkey by yourself? :-)
Backlash 68-75
Miami, USA - Saturday, November 14, 2009 at 13:03:57 (MST)
Thanks Gale. I use a photo hosting site called photobucket. Its free, I just get the direct link to my picture of choice into the homepage box. It then shows up as a link on your name.
Melody Pershall
Amarillo, USA - Saturday, November 14, 2009 at 12:27:58 (MST)
Gale The 129th & 509 stickers I think came from Simon thru Bill Wolf Hi Everyone
Don McCort
USA - Saturday, November 14, 2009 at 11:26:42 (MST)
Rick, hi bro! I just wrote the guy in charge of the sites in Kokomo as I have been the one getting those we have now. Wes had said he may want one and now you guys. I just asked if there were any open on the West end to get a 129th LZ 2. They don't start reserving sites till the end of Jan, but that is for members followed after the 15th of June for non-members. So I have to get our sites at two different times. Rick email me at "ken7776 at aol.com". Wes please do the same thing as maybe we can find some together.
Ken Strong Jr.
Lafayette, IN USA - Saturday, November 14, 2009 at 09:16:48 (MST)
HI Bill can you still get 129th book need one ok Art
Art
USA - Saturday, November 14, 2009 at 08:42:34 (MST)
Rick, thata way buddy!!! I love LZ Kokomo...heeheheeheeee Flight, I need to find out who supplied the 129th insignia window stickers that were at LZ St Louis!? I would like to have some more.................................
Gale
USA - Saturday, November 14, 2009 at 07:04:55 (MST)
Ron Paye There is about 5 or 6 of us that would like to get 2 or 3 lots at Kokomo. Is that possible? We would like to get them for about tue or wed on to Sunday. I called you and left my cell #. You should have my home # I think it is on contacts. gently has my e-mail. I don't like putting it on the flight log for I get allot of spam. I will send you a check right away. Flight be careful out there.
Rick England
USA - Saturday, November 14, 2009 at 04:24:55 (MST)
Melody, that's beautiful shot. By the way.....how do you get the photos on there like that?
Gale
USA - Friday, November 13, 2009 at 22:07:57 (MST)
Just wanted to share a picture I took tonight. I love fall and winter. This is one of the reasons. Just click on my name. . Hope all a doing fairly well. We are getting our bathroom upstairs redone next week. I'm just hoping they finish before thanksgiving(it is a tiny room...tiny!) The surround around the tub has leaked. Getting the tub out of there and putting in a walk in shower for my grandma.
Melody Pershall
Amarillo, USA - Friday, November 13, 2009 at 18:09:56 (MST)
1 XXL T-Shirt bid by Paul at $15..no 3X Dust-off sorry my bunkie buddy...but you're still good with the Paper weight at $25. Anyone going for $5 or $10 on the T-shirts???? You just might get one! Sadly, the auction is not consuming my time like it has in the past....few bids, no secret gifts(t-shirts for the girls?). How am I going to get you in the Christmas spirit??!!! Maybe a hotel room for two nights at Kokomo next year? Would that do it you scrooges:>))))))) LOL!! Backlash...think Kokomo! Love to you all-we'll talk on Monday. l-Gently
Gently
USA - Friday, November 13, 2009 at 13:59:51 (MST)
HI every one Backlash I would have like to fly with you never got ti fly in a cober it sound far out & I like to fly. Art
Art
USA - Friday, November 13, 2009 at 13:07:58 (MST)
No need to apologize Backlash and I am glad you understand.
Mark
USA - Friday, November 13, 2009 at 09:46:38 (MST)
Backlash, Merry X-Mas and a Happy New Year.Why don't you join us in our christmas sperit
by bidding on something in the 129th AHC Auction.The funds are used for our less fortunate
brothers for Christmas.We concider you a brother also.
Jim <Dustoff>
Shiloh, IL USA - Thursday, November 12, 2009 at 22:25:01 (MST)
Thanks Mark, I very much agree with the policies and protocol for such a site and sincerely apologize. As a matter of fact, such is not at all typical of my true nature or like me at all. Just finished reading a very thought provoking book and woke up today all full or righteous indignation. Sorry about that.
Backlash
Miami, USA - Thursday, November 12, 2009 at 20:35:14 (MST)
Freddy Boy......good on you brother. That is a kind thing you did for the WWII and Korean Vets.........thanks for doing that............Hey Mr. backlash, don't take this the wrong way and without sounding like I own or run this web site....but....we have kinda made a pact in here to try and not bring politics to fester is here. Not that you have singled out any one side and what you say is pretty much the truth, but in the past, politics has stirred up some bad feelings in here and we decided it would be best to just leave this place to be a healing place. Again, please don't get me wrong and we are all grateful that you have decided to post more ofter so please don't be a stranger.............Art Foster, you take care of yourself brother.........
Mark
USA - Thursday, November 12, 2009 at 19:30:11 (MST)
hi well had to stop workingon the return on heat & air had to get in side to my gut it would not let me go eany more the hole is 16 x 20 now that one hole get in got no head or air down stars I got to crank up the gas logs to worm it up down here & I will finish it tommrow hope & my body hurts in more places geting to old to do this with two bad hips
Art
USA - Thursday, November 12, 2009 at 18:53:09 (MST)
Amen Fred, Indeed we are NOT a bunch of "old mothers or pitiful beat-down "has beens" that are willing to just sit back and let "life?" and the "pimping" happen to us. This is exactly the point I was trying to make. Put more bluntly. There are no Democrats, Independents or Republicans anymore. There exist no blue collar, white collar or even the privileged anymore. No Hispanic, Blacks, Whites. No left wing bleeding assholes or right winged conservative war mongers. What does exist are "equal opportunity marks and victims. Through there program of provoking misinformation, propaganda and red herrings they have created an unprecedented diversion. Turn American against American so these few slick sociopaths can rob us blind of our lives, rights, freedoms and futures unhindered. You Fred and most Vets, especial Namm Vets are in no way buying into their shit AGAIN!! But the other 98% of Americans took their bait and are way too busy pointing fingers at each other, suing each other, protesting animal rights and pursuing insignificant personal beliefs and causes and are totally distracted. There are a few that have eyes wide open and say hell, I'm going to get my share and then there are we past and present warriors that are well aware of what is going down want to do what we do best, kick ass. My last post was to encourage all Vets to educate, organize, turn of the TV and lead by example. To my knowledge, we still have the right of free speech. Time for America to wake up and who better then the American Vet?
Backlash 68-75
Miami, USA - Thursday, November 12, 2009 at 18:49:09 (MST)
Mark, Vets Day turned out to be great.....I got up and went into my job.....I had the day off. So I decided " I can`t drink alone"....So I went into my job, and ask for a meeting with the CEO.......I ask if I could take out the WW2 and Korean War Vets for a drink.....He agreed with me and called "transportation department" to see if we could get a driver for the company bus......Well 61 "old" vets wanted to go out for a drink with me......So we went to "Millers Tavern" in Annandale.....George Washington had few beers there is the story....It was a "stagecoach" stop originally and George was suppose to have had a few beers there.....BUT, the bus driver drove us there, I drove myself......And I bought drinks for 61 WW2 and Korean Vets........two rounds.......$ 379.00 plus a nice tip.....I paid for it all.....VISA charge.........PRICELESS.....God the stories that were being told......You know something......these are mostly millionaires....They came back from the war and went to Harvard, Lehigh, Penn, .....they are retired doctors and lawyers.....and Wall Street types......REAL Wall Street types.....not these "youngbloods" that are screwing us over now.........But it was a great day, and the " Bar owner" Tim loved it........But it was a great day.....NOW.......Mr. Backlash.......You got some great points there......But from my neighborhood in Ohio, we call it "being pimped"..........that`s what they do to us. But I`m a firm believer, we ain`t dead yet, so don`t act like we are a bunch of "old mothers" that ain`t gonna do shit.......We still have some "fight" in us.......
Fred Skaggs
Annandale, NJ USA - Thursday, November 12, 2009 at 16:46:33 (MST)
Gently??? whats a LZ JACKSON t-shirt?????
Mark
USA - Thursday, November 12, 2009 at 15:59:24 (MST)
GENTLY,Put me down for one 3XXXL T-Shirt=$16,and how is the paper weight going?
Jim <Dustoff>
Shiloh, IL USA - Thursday, November 12, 2009 at 15:48:28 (MST)
hi every one Backlash you got that WRIGHT. Art
Art
USA - Thursday, November 12, 2009 at 15:18:08 (MST)
Is this still the America that so many have and still are paying the ultimate price in blood to protect and preserve the past 226 years? The one I dedicated my entire adult life to unconditionally protect and preserve in harms way? Theses gals have truely led by example as to "all it takes" to get our beloved country and lost rights and freedoms, the one you fought for, back. We NEED to put aside our petty differences and don't buy into the existing propaganda, manipulations and blatant lies that have allowed the ultra-rich, puppet self-serving politicians and the existing masses of unethical attorneys who NOW, control YOU and "interpret" your rights and freedoms to their advantage and every aspect of or lives" and future. They exist only to pave the way and nourish the shameful wretched excess and unprecedented greed that now exists and which is literally disassembling this once great country today. They have also defined this legal/political theater that exists today. Through out history it has proven time and time again. Divide and conquer always results in victory. Not good vs. evil. Through the media and much propaganda, an unprecedented, multifaceted campaign has been devised to Divide Grass Root Americans, by theses .0001% now pulling our chains. Sadly, it's working extremely well in dividing we patriots, the VAST majority, to their advantage through such ingenious manipulations. Don't let it all be for nothing and remember, all it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to stand and do nothing. Please, watch this 7 minute true documentary and recall the country you grew up in where such acts where the only solution to such a dilemma and no big thing. These gals have shown ALL AMERICANS exactly how to not buy in to "their" plan to divide and thus conquer. There are a whole lot more of "us" then them and we need to wake up and be heard. Due to one of those " really bad AO days yesterday, I was not able to make this post. Please accept this belated expression of deep gratitude for your selfless service to OUR country. You all are true, deep blue heroes you know. God Bless and thank you all on this Veteran's day past, for your courage and sacrifice you have made in behalf of all Americans. Watch this clip, it says it all.
http://www.responsibilityproject.com/films/player/the-home-run/
Backlash 68-75
Miami, USA - Thursday, November 12, 2009 at 15:09:28 (MST)
15 DOLLARS FOR A 2X T SHIRT
paul mcgrath
USA - Thursday, November 12, 2009 at 15:04:14 (MST)
I remember Mr. Shaw all the time, Bruno:>)) Ok, I got the two bets posted since my last post(Print, Ornament). Could you guys highlight the bids in your blogs, please. And not one bid on those cool olive green 509 t-shirts yet?!?!?! You guys all wear t-shirts for God's sake! You better start bidding on these or I'm going to come up with the LZJackson T-shirts for Kokomok...and you'll hate them. And you'll have to wear them if you want so eat...so figure it out. I promise...bad t-shirts at LZJackson. So, tomorrow when I visit this site, I better see some t-shirt wars going on! We've got one of all the sizes for men, women and the kids...too cute on the kids:>)) :>) L-G
Gently
USA - Thursday, November 12, 2009 at 15:00:04 (MST)
Veterans Day----I remember Lt Shaw,WO Strother, Sp4 David Stamper.
Bulldog 426 2/27/72
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo, TX USA - Thursday, November 12, 2009 at 08:34:00 (MST)
HI guy I was just thinking I never gotalong with a first shit all the time in the service they all wanted me out of there compenty & all I had to do was look at them & when I was at f hood I fell out one in a loud shirt sandel top took one look at me Foster you on my shit list get out of here & I sead top when can I put in a 1049 he tolg me I hope it ware you need to go & I sead nan welll the next day I was head home & back to nam & top sead you & other like you need to stay over thar all you are shit head I like to tell him it takes one to know one.
Art
USA - Wednesday, November 11, 2009 at 20:31:19 (MST)
Evening flight, I bid 50 dollars for melanies ornament, I spent 8 summer camps at Fort Hood, it is the home of the 1st. cavalry,the cav was in our ao inthe early years 65-66 and lz bird comes to mind , lz dog bong son, etc., dont know the whole story at what happened at Ft. Hood, I m sure there will be a investigation of what went wrong, I do know this and Im sure a few ofyou will remeber the night a few grenades were tossed off thehill at Lane. we know what it means to be not safe even in your own compound but to be killed here in the states , cant imagine how thats going to effect people, I hope all the lives that have been lost over in Afghanistan and Iraq wont befor nothing our lives were lost for one another in Vietnam, thats the only sense I can make of it all.. good evening , AND CLEAR RIGHT.. Gary....
Gary Mount
USA - Wednesday, November 11, 2009 at 19:31:25 (MST)
Fred Skaggs, that's no excuse brother.............show up and bring your baggage with you.....we'll deal with it. You just might be surprised!!!! George Carlin is a little too radical for me, but, his points are well taken. People cry about "big government" when their freedoms keep slipping away and they don't even realize it. Seatbelt,helmet,.08, burning regulations, etc are laws that restrict our freedoms. They may or may not save lives, but, the main reason is revenue....the almighty $$$$$$$$. Then there's the reasoning the've forced onto us for the last 40 years...."well, it's better to fight 'em over there then to fight 'em in your back yard!" I WILL be fighting them in my back yard if they say I can't have a campfire, as in other cities............that's enuff!!!!!!!
Gale
USA - Wednesday, November 11, 2009 at 16:56:19 (MST)
FT.HOOD,Hell Hole of the south in 1951,120degrees in the Shade day time.freezing after mid-nite.Sand in everything clogging vehicles filters,messing with weapons,gets in the food.Not the best thing to make love in as sand gets into everything.Sand storms removes paint from everything.Just let the power go off and everyone trys to escape the heat.I have seen troops shoot each other just to be sent to the Hospital in San Antonio.I turn down 2 assignments in Ft.Hood.Over the years things could have gotten better!
Jim <Dustoff>
IL USA - Wednesday, November 11, 2009 at 16:42:09 (MST)
HI Flight it look like that a lot of the 129th were at ft hood I was there before I went back 3time good place to stop at but not for long. got to go take care every one Art
Art
USA - Wednesday, November 11, 2009 at 16:21:07 (MST)
Thank you for ya'lls service! I have been thinking of my Uncle and Grandpa alot today and thinking of them. I do appreciate your service!
Melody Pershall
USA - Wednesday, November 11, 2009 at 14:51:48 (MST)
Gently, ok how about $50 for the 509 print? Also when is this over for final bids sweetheart????
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Wednesday, November 11, 2009 at 14:48:58 (MST)
I hope in light of all that has gone on, you may all have a quiet & peaceful veterans day. I spent time at Ft Hood ???? When will we ever learn ( Joan Baez?). I havn.t been well enough even to keep up with your auction stuff but will try>>>> Salute & respects to ALL & God care for our troops>>>> Smitty
jim westwang 71 72
sheridan, wyoming USA - Wednesday, November 11, 2009 at 13:53:00 (MST)
I will say that ida and i wish all our brothers and sisters here a calm and peaceful veterans day. KALLIE WHERE THE HELL YOU BEEN HIDING. earth to kal.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Wednesday, November 11, 2009 at 12:10:50 (MST)
Wasn't going to stop, but could not help myself. There was a replica wall set up by the county. It is always hard for me to visit. I still remember the first time I went to the wall in D.C. May all of the Veterans like me have a memorable day.
Dennis Fuerstenau
Haines City, FL USA - Wednesday, November 11, 2009 at 11:10:00 (MST)
Thank God on the Wedding delay! Bidding as it stands today: Earrings at $30, one paperweight at $25, Huey Model at $75. Remember, we have 509 t-shirts,509 key tags, and a beautiful 509 print, Ida's cookies, Frenchie's half tail rotor hub, Mels' ornaments, and manly man key chain. Don't make me come after all of you!!! :>)
Gently
USA - Wednesday, November 11, 2009 at 11:02:36 (MST)
HAPPY VETERAN DAY EVERYONE,Will try to check the flight log while in the FarEast.Gently,
has anyone out bid me on the paper weight yet?Hope I did not go too high from the start.
Did you get my check?My little Bro.delayed his wedding untill I get back wheeees!!!
Jim <Dustoff>
IL USA - Wednesday, November 11, 2009 at 10:32:16 (MST)
Happy veterans day everyone, watched the memorial service yesterday, very moving, hope steps are taken to make sure that never happens again, always expect the unexpected ., you guys know what i mean, thanks for the kind words, Gently, May god bless each and everyone of you,my 129th. brothers and my Dad in heaven he seved in wwii, in north africa and Anzio and France, God rest your soul, Dad, clear right, Tex 70-71..
Gary Mount
USA - Wednesday, November 11, 2009 at 09:39:46 (MST)
OK Fred maybe they are not brain dead in DC. Agree they all need to be replaced because they don't care about us!
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Wednesday, November 11, 2009 at 07:49:13 (MST)
To my very favorite men....the Veterans of the 129th AHC-I love you. Happy Veterans Day. You have my deepest love and respect for all that you do so humbly for one another: Without hesitancy, ever so quietly and without accolades, you step up and help your fellow 129th brother. You don't chose who to help, all are welcome to your love and compassion. I've seen it over and over again. Your genuine love for one another keeps me alive in a world I no longer like. God bless all of you...I love you...you are my favorite people. Hugs to our "Wife Survivors." :>)) Gently
Gently
USA - Wednesday, November 11, 2009 at 06:52:34 (MST)
Oh yeah, and Fred, you be careful out there tomorrow and stay safe. By the way, you guys are my heros'..........have a good Veterans day....Semper Fi...............
Mark
USA - Tuesday, November 10, 2009 at 19:40:21 (MST)
Fred S...........I like Carlin's jokes better the his book..............
Mark
USA - Tuesday, November 10, 2009 at 19:38:12 (MST)
Well shit......you all haven`t heard a good "rant" from me in a while.......I went over to NYC today to buy a book....George Carlin`s new book "The Last Word".....His brother Patrick was signing the books......Pat looks and talks just like George.......friggin great guy...I got to talk to him, and I told him "my feelings" about things.....I KNOW some of you have "kids" in the service.......But I`m TIRED. of hearing about all "The Hero`s" stuff, WTF are we or us.......Man we did everything these kids did......maybe more and we got kicked in the ass for it........Well tommorow is Vet`s Day.....I taking off work to "toast " a few of my brothers.....Yea I`m gonna get drunk, and talk "big shit".....Don`t worry guys......I always take my "shit".....just in case. You guys and gals know me........I`m a "latte drinking, gun toting, meat eating, Jeep driving....LIBERAL......that`s who I am......Brother Gale Beard, that`s why I stay to myself.......I raise way too much hell, when I`m in a crowd of Nam Vets.......I`m gonna say it in public.....We should have taken this "mother" over when we had the "numbers" and the "fire power". I know.....some of us are "law enforcement" folks, and think that talk is crazy.....Look at us now.....nobody gives a shit about us......But I do love what George Carlin had to say in his book............
"Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice . . . you don’t.
You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own, and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought, and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls.
They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying . . . lobbying, to get what they want . . . Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I’ll tell you what they don’t want . . . they don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that . . . that doesn’t help them. That’s against their interests. That’s right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table and think about how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 40 fuckin' years ago. They don’t want that.
You know what they want? They want obedient workers . . . Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your fuckin' retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it . . . they’ll get it all from you sooner or later cause they own this fuckin' place.
It’s a big club and you ain't in it. You and I are not in The big club. By the way, it’s the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy.
The table has tilted folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people . . . white collar, blue collar it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard-working people continue, these are people of modest means . . . continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck about you . . . they don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t care about you at all . . . at all . . . at all, and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care.
That’s what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that’s being jammed up their assholes everyday, because the owners of this country know the truth. It’s called the American Dream cause you have to be asleep to believe it..."
— George Carlin
Fred Skaggs
Annandale, NJ USA - Tuesday, November 10, 2009 at 16:54:46 (MST)
We watched the Memorial on fox news it was something I would never happen here.
I hope that our President ment what he said, and he had not let our brothers and sisters down like Nam, I hope all have a great Veterans day as we rember our brothers that we lost. One thing we must rember is that we will be togeather on the other side once again one day, WHAT A GREAT DAY IT WILL BE. Our prayers are with all of you.
Clear on the right out
Joe and Kristy
USA - Tuesday, November 10, 2009 at 15:41:28 (MST)
Bill, I watched with tears in my eyes by the end. It brought back so many memories as I looked at the flag and thinking of those who are in the military now. Maybe only 25% are fit to serve but we still have a great bunch of men and women who make us proud. Still waiting for word on what the WH is going to do about the Afghgan War. If they can not make up their mind now I am very worried. We need to be completely behind our guys now or get out!
Ken Strong
Lafayette, IN USA - Tuesday, November 10, 2009 at 15:12:20 (MST)
Don't know how many of you had a chance to watch the memorial at Ft. Hood. It was awesome. I rarely have kind words for our current President, but I will admit that his demeanor, his speech, his placing a challenge coin before each of the fallen's photograph was stiring. Tomorrow, Kat and I will place flowers at the foot of a flag pole at our RV park that a retired Marine has put up. He is a Silver Star winner and a former POW. I salute all our service personnel - past and present. And a special salute to my sons who are serving or who have served - God bless you boys!!! Love ya, Kat & Dad
Bill Wolf
USA - Tuesday, November 10, 2009 at 14:26:56 (MST)
HI Gently I will give $75 for the HUEY D model OK & I will hang in & see what the PEOPLE can do to get them in dc. themthinking with there head not ther A$$. Art
Art
USA - Tuesday, November 10, 2009 at 10:31:53 (MST)
It is all unbelievable isn't it Art. Love-Gently
Gently
USA - Tuesday, November 10, 2009 at 08:15:17 (MST)
Art, don't give up yet!! There is still hope that someone will wake up in DC. Besides they claim that is "Waste, Fraud & Abuse" of coarse we all have to ask if that is the case why have they not done a thing before to fix it? I still question if anyone in Washington can read, know that the ones who work for Social Security sure can't. Well or they are too lazy to do the job. Anyway Art, it is not a done deal yet so we have a chance that this mess & CAP & TRADE still won't pass. If it doesn't maybe they can at least rain in on wasteful spending now that they know about it.
Ken Strong Jr. 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Tuesday, November 10, 2009 at 08:00:57 (MST)
HI Flight well medicar went down the drain by 400 BIL I dont use it it does not pay I havent used it in years I going to cut it out & get the hundred back every check I get to I die them people in DC are going to tell us what we can & cant do & they say how live & how die then they think they are playing god but GOD got one thing they dont know & I hope I be with GLENDA then & are kids will never have athing for the taxes they pay.
Art
USA - Monday, November 09, 2009 at 18:34:35 (MST)
Gently, thats the chain wallet. It just looks really small in the picture.
Melody Pershall
USA - Monday, November 09, 2009 at 15:05:28 (MST)
Thanks Mel-that's the only way to do it. What's the size of the bracelet? L-Gently
Gently
USA - Monday, November 09, 2009 at 14:37:25 (MST)
Hi y'all. I don't get here as often as I like but I thought you might like the link I'm putting up. It's one of our old 129th birds that has been restored and lives in England.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yauoaW7HfAs Enjoy!
Larry Kwiatkowski
Simi Valley, CA USA - Monday, November 09, 2009 at 09:43:58 (MST)
Wanted to post a picture of all the items I have. Included two pictures of the ornament cover. I have all sorts of colors...Just click my name :o) Everything here is going fine. Same ol' same ol'. Hope all are having a good sunday.
Melody Pershall
USA - Sunday, November 08, 2009 at 10:15:12 (MST)
Gently to keep it going I will bid $65.00 on the Huey. Sorry Mark! Also we had one wounded from here @ Ft Hood. He got out of the HS in 2000 and went straight to the Army and they had his family on the local news last night. I know we all are shocked with what has happened and pray for the families.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Saturday, November 07, 2009 at 14:46:56 (MST)
Ft Hood......we lost a young woman from WI in the shooting.
Ok, if you guys want to bid on this site, that's fine with me...I'll try to check it every day. Earrings @$25, Huey@$54.44. Now keep it up! L-G
gently
USA - Friday, November 06, 2009 at 12:07:45 (MST)
Wink - no, our son is in his senior year at CalStateNorthridge, but will be assigned as a 2nd Lt platoon leader in Texas (but not Hood). Our family's deepest sympathy to all those who have lost their loved ones and our prayers for a quick recovery for those who's loved ones have suffered wounds at this horrific event. Bill & Kat Wolf
Bill Wolf
USA - Friday, November 06, 2009 at 10:12:06 (MST)
morning flight,bill an kat isn,t your son stationed at fort hood.hoping i,m wrong on that but if not hope he's ok.
wink 3/69-10/70
wink
lake wales, fl USA - Friday, November 06, 2009 at 07:47:41 (MST)
HI every one whot this world comeing to & all those life just snuff out & the other no telling what shape there in I pray for all them & thank GOD that they got him or no telling how it could be a lot more could have died.
Art
USA - Thursday, November 05, 2009 at 18:35:07 (MST)
Please take a moment to remember our troops in light of the happenings at fort hood today.
paul mcgrath
USA - Thursday, November 05, 2009 at 17:23:07 (MST)
Mark it's hard to believe this site has been here 11 years. And, you brought back some memories of when we were on the VHFCN.org ( bunker Hill ) chat. And, Bud Horton. He was a member of the VHCMA. He had a falling out with a few of the guy's about using the VHCMA name in the memorial in Illnois he was working on. Bud was the historian for the VHCMA also. Talked to Rainer last for a few minutes. He hasn't got on the computer yet and isn't able to drive. He is making slow progess. But, he will be back!! 44 years ago this month we because part of the 129th Avation co. Dong Ba Thin we weren't an operational unit yet. All take care. Always A Brother!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Thursday, November 05, 2009 at 08:46:04 (MST)
MARK,I check this web site daily and know others do too.I have sent many of my friends to the 129th site.All agree that you have started a great daily log for vietnam vets and any other vets that need information about the VA.Puff out your chest,hold your head high.
Everyone knows you are manageing this site.Clear Right!!
Jim <Dustoff>
IL USA - Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 22:41:15 (MST)
Ya know that this web site is 11 years old now. We have come a long way in that time.......I love you all...............
Mark
USA - Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 20:37:28 (MST)
That guy that submitted the 10th Cmbt Avn Bn History stuff is Bud Harton. I used to talk with him back when I first started my mission to find out more about Larry over there. The VHFCN used to have chat room and we would talk in there. Also visited him once down at the Dayton VA once back then when he was there for some surgery. Nice guy. Man, that was a long time ago.
Mark
USA - Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 20:35:49 (MST)
Sure wish I could somehow get a History on the 129th for the year of 1969.:-(.......
Mark
USA - Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 20:32:44 (MST)
Bill Wolf......I have been researching the Texas Tech Virtual Archives and see that you have been submitting the 129th stuff. Good on you brother. I have noticed that in some of the 10th Cmbt Avn Bn History there is mention of the 129th and some of it's men and awards and an Honor Roll of all those that died that year. That also has 129th guys on it. I will try and get that stuff on this site.
Mark
USA - Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 20:31:14 (MST)
Sorry Art. did not see you bid on that.............Ok I bid $54.44 then;-)
Mark
USA - Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 20:27:23 (MST)
HI Gently did you get what I sead $50.00 for the die cast huey D model.
Arthur
USA - Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 19:44:59 (MST)
Bill Wolf, you got any copies of the 129th book yet? If so send me one I will send you the money upon recieveing it.....thanks..............
Mark
USA - Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 19:25:02 (MST)
Gently, I bid $44.44 for the die-cast Huey............
Mark
USA - Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 19:21:33 (MST)
I have been doing so research after we had some discussion about Agent Orange in here. This web site has lots of info about it < http://www.vietnam.ttu.edu/vietnamarchive/resources/agentorange/ >.....might be worth looking at for you...............
Mark
USA - Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 19:17:02 (MST)
Let's get some bidding going:>))))))
Gently
USA - Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 12:06:42 (MST)
Yah...what Gently said Wrong way ;-)
Mark
USA - Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 10:50:26 (MST)
Hey Wrong Way...our love to Wrong Turn:>?)) Love-Gently
Gently
USA - Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 09:26:10 (MST)
Wes, by any chance did you keep the site number you guys were in? Also were there open ones on either side of you and can check on that for you. Wish you were closer but you were in eye site of our home there.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 07:39:02 (MST)
Hey Wrong Way....was just thinkin' bout you two yesterday. The thought brought a smile to my face. ;-)................
Mark
USA - Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 06:24:26 (MST)
Don't know where to start. Paul & Ida - yes am here. had puter torn down for some remodel. Mr. Westwang, yes I do believe we have met. Not only that, I don't know if you are a Wyoming native but I was born in Cheyenne and left in 1957. Alvis - I have over 2000 board feet of black walnut lumber. When are we going to get together and do something with it? Have some myrtle wood for Ron Paye. How do I get it to you.
Related my experience at Kokomo to the guys in my drunk school class and the continuing care group. Their immediate reaction when I got back was " what the hell are you so happy about" so I told them. Looks like next year I will have to acquire a site big enough for at least 5 (five) couples as some of these people are interested in attending. Damn an Oregon contingent. Ken Strong - I may need some help with this. Not only that I miss BS'ing with you and the others. It was damn neat to be able to talk about something we were all experienced with without having to explain every damn thing. Am still trying to fry bacon as well as gale on an open fire. I usually end up with bacon bits for salad.
Wrong Way Wes <griff90880@msn.com>
Clatskanie, OR USA - Tuesday, November 03, 2009 at 22:26:22 (MST)
For the ornament covers, you can chose whichever color ornament, I have just about any color or can get any color. I will say that they don't fit to well on the shatter proof ones, kind of slips to one side. Haven't been able to figure out how to make it fit properly.
Melody Pershall
Amarillo, USA - Tuesday, November 03, 2009 at 13:29:23 (MST)
Yeah Frenchie!!!! Thank you! I have a bid of $25 on the earrings... L-G
Gently
USA - Tuesday, November 03, 2009 at 09:08:08 (MST)
Gently I Have a ½ tail rotor hub that is highly polished. I would like to put it up for auction. It is the part that held the blade on. Rick England has the other ½. Bid soon and often$$$
Bill French 68-69
Sav, USA - Tuesday, November 03, 2009 at 08:26:00 (MST)
Gale; isn't that called a wonderful patina,people pay more for patina
paul mcgrath
USA - Monday, November 02, 2009 at 19:46:27 (MST)
Gale...bummer..... bummer.
Gently
USA - Monday, November 02, 2009 at 14:49:18 (MST)
HI Ken it seam to be & we need to do like AUSTRALIA are doing if you like how we do things then get out or we get you out or shut up & go back the way of are fourfother they had it WRIGHT & tell them people in dc. get strate or get out because we put you thare we can take you out of thar just as eazy. Art
Art
USA - Monday, November 02, 2009 at 10:04:01 (MST)
Sorry....but the 3-D cutout is not availabe. It drew moisture from sitting in the tent all night at Kokomo. I have nothing else at this time.
Gale
USA - Monday, November 02, 2009 at 10:01:30 (MST)
Christmas Auction is now open and lots of very cool and personal items:>)) Remember, email me at Gentlyjs@yahoo.com to bid....don't bid here. It's easier to check my email everyday...but I will keep you in the know to encourage more spending. Yahoo! Let's go!:>))
From Mel: (1)First one is a wallet chain measuring in at 21 inches. The chain its self is very strong stainless steel and holds up very well. $20. (2)Then earrings, the round crystals are swarovski in red magma. The short section of chain is in sterling silver and the ear wires are surgical steel. $12. (3)Lastly is the ornament cover(Harley type look). One on a black shatter-proof ornament and on a turquoise ornament. Its aluminum so its nice and light. $5
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From Gale
3 bronze men 3-d cut out......priceless:>))
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Paul and Ida:
6 batches of cookies (5 dozen a batch) from Paul and Ida-your choice of cookies.
(Cookies: Dustoff off: $100 first batch.. 50 second batch … 25 on third batch)
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From Phil of 509 and look carefully(I will send the photos of the items to all of you in an email(can't load them here.) Please share with all your 129th brothers, sisters, and Families, incase I don't have all of our emails)
Quantity: 1
DIECAST MODEL - UH-1D HUEY VIETNAM 1968 MODEL FEATURES 1:48th Scale Die Cast Metal and Plastic Construction: Hatches Open to Engine Detail and Rotors Turn: The Door Opens to the Troop Area
Quantity: 10
HUEY 509 KEY FOBS: This photograph shows both sides of the embroidered Huey 509 Key Ring. The key fob is approx 13cm long.
Quantity: 5
HUEY PAPERWEIGHTS: A Limited Edition Pewter paperweight:The paperweight measures 90mm x 45mm x 50mm: Spinning rotor blade: The photographs below show each side of the paperweight
HUEY 509 T-SHIRTS: Top quality T-Shirts from the Huey team. Olive green shirt with actual picture of 'Huey 509' taken at Military Odyssey, with the famous 'Bite & Strike' badge on the sleeve.
Qty Type Size
1 Children’s X-Small (24”)
1 Children’s Small (26”)
1 Children’s Medium (28”)
1 Children’s Large (30”)
1 Children’s X-Large (32”)
Qty Type Size
1 Women’s Small (32-34”)
1 Women’s Medium (34-37”)
1 Women’s Large (37-40”)
1 Women’s X-Large (40-43”)
Qty Type Size
1 Men’s Small (36”)
1 Men’s Medium (40”)
1 Men’s Large (42”)
1 Men’s X-Large (46”)
1 Men’s XX-Large (48”)
Quantity: 2
SQUADRON PRINT UH-1H 72-21509:This superb Squadron Print depicts Huey UH-1H 72-21509 (Huey 509)and measures 44cm by 29cm. Please note the image below has a watermark on with the words ‘Squadron Prints’ but this does not actually appear on the print.
Auction closes Dec 1st at 4PM CST. Let's make some money!!!! Love-Gently
Gently
USA - Monday, November 02, 2009 at 08:56:24 (MST)
To change the subject! They took saying the pledge to our flag out of schools so they can paint over it on the WH web site. Than a fitness center is told having the flag displayed may offend someone. Just glad they told those people they could leave! In 1974 while I was in Panama a GI got drunk and tore down their flag in a bar. The people there beat the crap out of him, than the Police got there and knocked him around somemore before taking him to jail where they prisoners beat him up again. The next day they got him out of jail and put him on a plane back to the States. How is it that people in Panama respect their flag and we don't? Are we going the way of the Roman Empire or what?
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Monday, November 02, 2009 at 08:52:25 (MST)
Flight, does anyone live in the Toledo Oh or Monroe Mi area?
Gale
USA - Monday, November 02, 2009 at 08:10:29 (MST)
No Way Art, I'm 5'4' and 140 and praise God every day that I was a pilot. Now way would I have made it in the tunnels. That would have been a sect 8 for sure for me.
Backlash
Miami, USA - Monday, November 02, 2009 at 07:59:09 (MST)
HI that was for backlash
Art
USA - Sunday, November 01, 2009 at 20:41:12 (MST)
HI that was for backlash
Art
USA - Sunday, November 01, 2009 at 20:36:43 (MST)
HI flight I got some for you I like to take you & see how you do AS a tunnel rat you be shaking in your boots & see some one you dont want to see & just finish your 3 time in nam on your way home & the pilot fire up over the income nose wheel not down & hit so hard the winge were flapping on a strech 8.
Art
USA - Sunday, November 01, 2009 at 20:13:04 (MST)
on a lighter note my Dallas Cowboys won today and even better the pride of the great south plains the Texas Tech Red Raiders won yesterday, despite starting a freshman and a banged up o-line.. Have a good week everyne and may God bless.. Gary..
Gary MOUNT
USA - Sunday, November 01, 2009 at 15:12:54 (MST)
Backlash, thanks for the kind consideration and advice, now as far as taking a ride , got no problem with that, the longer I was there the more adicticted I became to risking my life, everybodys circumstances are different, a vet counselor told me one time that I was too sensitive to go over there Im sure I mnot the only one. in any case I developed another personality too cope with what was going on, I do a hell of a lot better than I used to, like not drinking a fifth of rum a day, so my friend as far as going on a snoopy low, or firefly or picking up dead soldiers on christmas day, got no problem with YEEE HA!!!!!! Tex the phantom843...
Gary Mount
USA - Sunday, November 01, 2009 at 14:42:29 (MST)
Back to Tex: Just for fun bud. If your gona have nightmares, try and imagine taking this "demo with me" just 3 years ago and keep in mind, I was REALLY behaving myself and holding way back. You have my solemn word as an officer and gentleman that during my entire career that not even one VIP, pushy politician or Cobra or Apache pilot wanting a cheap thrill on Uncle's dime, would ever even consider getting back into that back seat with me again at gun-point and I gave a hell of a lot 30 minute "demo" flights. Hell, by the time I finished "my thing" they were barfing up the milk-duds they ate when they were 4 years old. I'm a sadistic SOB. OH. If they were pretty girls, I was a very good boy. This is my second to last formal demo before I got the bad news and wings clipped. Also, this is the classified 2003 Strike Eagle design to counter the Russian SUs, a 2.2 billion dollar screaming machine that only resembles the old 15s now being retired today. Pure titanium alloy airframe and has 2 totally trick-out Pratt 113s mounted aft to the tune of (claimed) 88,000 pounds of thrust. We call it the Ex-Caliber and I can't really tell you much more about this awesome machine but watch this beast take full afterburner, horizontal, mach 1.3, low level, 360 strapping runs to a full after-burner, 0 degrees on the bubble, perpendicular vertical climb to 70,000 in 5.2 seconds and still hold together. Keep in mind that all gears up and non-kinetic maneuvers were flown at over 860 knots. Lord I miss and loved flying theses machines but it seems that I,m in an extremely vast minority.Maybe a slight death wish. The SE FF-034 was my non-classified issue but still a real heart-stopper. So strap into the backseat Tex and get some new nightmare material. Yea, I know I'm a little shit and show-off but that's just part of the profile. Turn your speakers on and remember this is HIGHLY edited. They cut out the really good stuff. Want'a go for a ride? Hey, you said it. We all have to die sometime and my God, what a go. :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0CSsCwhts4&feature=related
Backlash
Miami, FL USA - Sunday, November 01, 2009 at 12:02:42 (MST)
TO: TEX, You my brother have been carrying around a ton of baggage that doesn't belong to you. Went back and read a lot of your posts. My "job" required absolutely no compliance in any form to the rules of engagement, GC and am totally exempt from every section and article of the UCMJ. Locate and neutralize the target with extreem prejudice. Period! and I sleep like a baby. I still have my moments but I tell no war stories, cause their all BS, if you were there, you know that and what I'm talking about. We all were scared shitless, poorly trained kids and not one of us, including career soldiers and officers, did not finally cross that line of sanity and ethics. That is the nature of war. All are human and yes we all sooner or later just break and go a little crazy or self detonate. That's called human frailty. Who wouldn't? Unlike those before us most of us were snatched from our Sr Prom, given a 90 day crash course and then literally dropped, totally green, into a insane meat-grinder. The only difference then any other US war was you did it on TV and those very greedy politicians that MADE you go in the first place, imposed limited engagement and then rubbed your nose in it and labeled us losers when REALLY, it was they that were the losers but with a lot fatter wallets. So do yourself a favor, drop the baggage. Hey, they asked you, you didn't ask them and obviously, you did exactly what you needed to do to reach day zero or I wouldn't be writing to you. It was war TEX, all is forgiven and now you really need to let yourself off the hook. Forget it? Yea right but after all theses years, you just might try to FINALLY make friends with those faces and finally get a good night's sleep. You didn't go through all that to only come home and mentally suffer the rest of your life. BTW, mental suffering is by far the most agonizing of all. Due what you have to do but make friends with your horrors of so long ago. Personally, I went BACK and it is amazing what experiencing something through the eyes of an old man's wisdom instead of a half crazed kid can do as far a reclaiming your peace. I actually enjoyed myself this time.
Backlash
Miami, FL USA - Sunday, November 01, 2009 at 08:12:11 (MST)
To Dennis Fuerstenau: Hey, I'm a gator too and you just may be in luck. Not positive but 99.5% sure the DOT falls under the Florida Employees Retirement Fund. As a DOT employee you should have been offered 3 elective levels of long-term income protection insurance as well as a short-term, maybe state paid, that was taken directly from your check every pay period. You should of chosen the long-term one that would cover the maximum pay-out a minimum of 50% of your best 5 years depending on your union contract. Cops, firemen and such, get 100%. The most expensive was less then 15 buck a check. However, it is through UNUM, total jerks but you should do fine for six months. Here is what you do: Go to personnel/leave office and tell them you have been advised to take a disability leave. Not retirement! as you can extend your leave for 3 years and the State will pay your full medical insurance benefits and at the same time, apply for your short-term income protection you should have. There is a 60 grace period, not 6 months and just do what you have to do to make the 60. Go ahead with the SS disability ASAP to get the clock ticking and also secure and this is very IMPORTANT! 2 different letters from 2 separate FLORIDA physicians stating you are totally disabled. This will allow you to retire with FULL benefits and as if you worked to 64.5 at your present salary schedule. You only have to do this once and with these letters, they will not deduct the 5% for every year you are short of your 30. If you think you need both United Health Care and the VA, drag out the retirement and live on the SS check but I highly recommend you get those TWO FLORIDA doctor letters to the leave office, retire and start collecting your Fl retirement along with your SS disability and what ever UNUM owes you. Most guys borrow the $s for the 60 day grace period as SS, when they finally do get to you, sends you a check rectro to the date of filing and it is a whopper and tax free. This is good stuff and since they clipped my wings in 2006, I have walked probably 100 Florida employee vets through this "get what's owed to you" process in Florida. BTW, this is what I do now with all my spare time. Don't even need a lawyer and the State is obliged to walk you through this step by step if you are 10 years vested or more. SS, your on your own but just do what they ask, jump through the hoops and you will be home free. Let me know how it turns out.
Backlash
Miami, FL USA - Sunday, November 01, 2009 at 06:51:32 (MST)
Back to backlash, living in the here and now, what it is, is your absolutely right,my Dad God rest his soul had a very simple explanation , Just do the best you can,. thats all any of us can do, for the most part I do, its good to be able to post on this site especially when you cant sleep and have horrible nightmares, Im sure Im not the only one, should be used to iy by now after38 years, thank God theyre not all the time , doesnt look like anyone has any documentation on ao after april70, but I guess it dont matter anyways,hell were all going to die anyways, just hope I dont suffer too much.. clear right.. Tex 70-71
Gary Mount
USA - Sunday, November 01, 2009 at 03:15:28 (MST)
Good idea, Paul..think Illdo the same.
Gary Mount
USA - Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 21:06:14 (MDT)
Ken I was there with you in 72, My Diabetes rating fom the VA came from my Agent orange Screening. Now, Not that I will get another dime from the VA cuz I am 100% P & T. I was notified that my heart Disease is now linked to Agent Orange.Then to top it off the DOT has diqualified me for my heart disease. Not fun having to try and find a job at my age.. Social Security has deyermined that I am eliglible again if I reapply, but I can't survive for 6 months with no income.
Dennis Fuerstenau
Haines City, FL USA - Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 15:57:56 (MDT)
one thing that i have done is give my children all of my records concerning agent orange, because according to casarett and doull's toxicology (the basic science of poisons)text book, dioxin is an aduct toxin which basically means it attaches to rna and causes a speed bump,so that when the rna is being read it does not get read properly. this type of toxin can skip generations before becoming evident again. i give my records to my kids so that they don't just get lost or forgotten.
paul mcgrath
USA - Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 15:46:39 (MDT)
Backlash and Dustoff and Ken Strong and Art, my heart goes out to all of you that are suffering with these illnesses, luckily Im doing good compared to a lot of others and hopefully for a long time,do have some loss of feelings in my hands and feet and anxiety, but oter than ptsd, doing not too bad , looked up ao online as posted before, nasty stuff, there is no telling what else will show up, hopefully I wont live long enough to suffer by this crap, yeah, from best I could tell april70, cuttoff date and its going to be very hard proving otherwise, not that it matters just bothers me , why I dont know , nuts, I guess, all I know is what a waste all of that was, Im getting to where I dont beleive much of what I read or hear, Nam screwed a lot of good folks up and for what? theyre communist anyways, I dont know if weve learned anything or not, sometimes I think Imliving in a nightmare and Ill wake up and it willbe 1962 again and AMERICA is America again, Dream on, huh? Have a good Halloween everybody, always a brother, Tex 70-71..
Gary Mount
USA - Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 13:29:13 (MDT)
Thanks Mark for the invite. Really going out on a limb here but hell, what they going to do to me? Operation Phoenix, my job, was de-classified 14 months ago and a whole page and a half is now available to public access. Gees, not bad for a non-existing, rumored and plausible deniable covert fantasy. AF intelligence attached to GS intel programs with a need to know 1100 classification. I heard and did things that would turn your hair white in a NY minute. Pure and simple pay-back for Tet. To Gary and based on the preceding statement. I have absolutly nothing to back this up but Yes, April 20, 1970 is what is documented as the cease spray date. Maybe it was bit I'm a Molder kinda of guy. Wasn't born that way, but survival made "trusting" a near nonexistent aspect of my personal SOP. With me? So assuming the date is accurate. Three questions. How did they then "dispose" of the millions of 55 gallon barrels that were then already in country, After sprayed, how long did the stuff already on the ground and water have detrimental effects after it killed off all the plants and how in the world did an invisible fast-mover driver, me, get into this crap? Don't think I need to remind you that 68-69 was a hell of time to be in country. Also, I saw, AO with orange tape sealing the lid, purple, green, yellow, red and about every color of the rainbow. Considering the loses we took in 68-69, do you really think the manpower to load all that defoliant was re-deployed to pack, haul and ship it back just as we were back to really kicking ass? Also keep in mind, it worked damn well. Now consider how much of anything we were told was accurat or true and everything that has been disclose since 75 to now in the examinations and disclosures of the MACV files. My best advise to any vet, searching for answers to the AO dispersment in South East Asia is that your time will be so much better spent in researching and turning over rocks to disclose the truth as to who really killed Kennedy. All of us need to take a step back, do a total reassessment as to our NOW priorities. That entire conflict was total FUBAR. Not a soul today has yet explained without bias what the entire involvement was really about and I truely think that not a soul alive even knows. Yea. yea, fight communism. Simply put, you can not make sense out of nonsense so stop. Pursue the now and present. My God, isn't that overwhelming enough without trying to solve a 30 year old enigma? Per the dioxin diagnosis as simple biopsy and gas chromatograph assay will give you the answer but in my opinion is a waste of time and money. Look, if you were there, you most like were exposed. Sprayed, in the dirt, smoke from the sprayed areas burned, water and food. BTW, can anyone eat rice again yet? :-)................................... Also, in just my few posts, a lot of medical questions have been put to me. Yes, I actually did do that beat my head against the wall thing at first, learning ALL about AO and for what. What is, is!!!!!! I can live with that. So, if you have questions and want intelligent answers, remember what my profession is. As stated, for my ENTIRE adult life, I was a highly trained and disciplined, extremely efficient, heartless, cold-blooded bad-guy killer. That's what career combat pilots do I'm afraid. I am not a doctor. I wish I could give good medical answers but, that wasn't in my training.
Dust-0ff, Seventy SIX? Give me a break you old ground pounder. Do you really want the list? As of Monday, small cell carcinoma, COPD, both renal and hepatic failure, type one diabetic with peripheral neuropathy and secondary Raynaud's syndrome, systemic lupus and stage 3 CHF.
Backlash 68-75
Miami, FL USA - Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 12:09:35 (MDT)
Back lash, you were right..Tex 70-71
Gary Mount
USA - Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 11:46:35 (MDT)
How stupid of me, I forget that there is so much information at my fingertips, online, looked up agent orange online yesterday and found a lot of answers to my questions, it answers questions about elegibility, problems what kinds of ao used , malathion was used after april70, spray patterns , confirms what backlash said inhis post, you name it,pretty much covers it,there isnt a test conducted by the v.a. for ao, there are dioxin test but theyre expensive, read all about it when you have a chance, its really pretty sad what we did and all the damage it caused for generations possibly to come, HAPPY HALLOWEEN, TEX GUNS UP, RED RAIDERS...
gary mount
USA - Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 09:03:57 (MDT)
Well back from the Great Smokie Mountains. Liz and I had a great time. Gently met some Marines from Greenbay Wis. They haven't heard about LZ Lambeau. Gave them my email and will email the web site. The Great Smokie cities are Veteran frendly. Now about agent orange. Every VA compensation office think differently. My letter stated to the affect. That if I spent a day in Vietnam. I was most likely exposed to agent orange. That , was after being treated for type 11 dibetic and on medication. Until It was found that I had a diease that fell under the agent orange. The VA wouldn't talk to me about, agent orange. Operation Ranch Hand which the Air force sprayed agent orange. They did mention that some were sprayed by hand on some perimeters for shooting areas. You can get a list of what the VA covers on agent orange. Always A Brother!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 07:38:21 (MDT)
Rick Benedict,( Little John ) so good to know that you are still reading out there. Hopeall is well with you brother...................alwaya a brother..............
Mark
USA - Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 07:23:22 (MDT)
Gary and Backlash and all. No problem with a discussion about Agent orange. Is something that you all have, or may not have in common. Good possibility that some answers may come out of it all. I love this place. Backlash don't be so scarce round here. I am glad that you posted.
Mark
USA - Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 07:21:25 (MDT)
Why did they screen people there after Apr 1970 for AO issues if they quit using it before we got there? I was screened in 1988 when I left military and first applied to VA.
Jeff
USA - Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 06:24:49 (MDT)
HI flight you can get agnt orange up date by sine up for then just dont give up I could get more but I dont have A wife to get it that might put some one that nead to get it & talk to the DAV AMVET AMERICAN LEGION VVA or other for help they can every little bit help & get a copy of your recards to take to one of them & letters from guy that were with you & dont use state vet service the work for the va they drage you on for ever.
Art
USA - Friday, October 30, 2009 at 13:38:45 (MDT)
Want to know more about agent orange, just look it up online , lots of interesting or should I say disgusting stuff, sorry this is depressing to some..Gary..
Gary Mount
USA - Friday, October 30, 2009 at 13:20:56 (MDT)
On a more upbeat note....the Christmas auction starts Tuesday. On Monday I will post all the items up for bid....all bids should be sent to me at Gentlyjs@yahoo.com...don't post them here. The auction closes on Dec 1st at 4:00PM giving us time to get the items mailed to the winners for Christmas giving. We keep good secrets incase any of the items are to be a surprize gift:>))just let me know such. Love to all-Gently
Gently
USA - Friday, October 30, 2009 at 11:30:23 (MDT)
Almost forgot, men and women coming back fromIraq and Afghanistan, please let them know how important it is to keep your records and any pictures you took that may help ingetting help medically or mentally later on, 3 records or more and put a record of your dd214 in your courthouse records, glad I did.. Tex..
Gary MOUNT
USA - Friday, October 30, 2009 at 10:43:19 (MDT)
You are probably Right,Dan inthat instance, dont know since I wasnt there at that time, do know ao or equivelant was used after april 70, by our unit to spray the An khe pass area, one ship comes to mind 68-15373, it was one of our dogged out ships, dont recall the other ones, but remember without a doubt cleaning it up after it was used on a ao mission in the pass, like I said before it ATE the paint off the tail boom, thats evident in the picture we have in our gallery, remeber it had a oily residue to it and really began causing a rash on my neck and ears and my hair was naver the same and still to this day have sploches on my neckarea that wasnt there before, ifyou have some sort of memory or evidence that ao was used by our unit after april 70., please submit it if for no other reason than it can be proved tat it was, bothers me that the big daddy says it wasnt used after april 70, hope you understand ,if you dont thats ok ,too.. Tex..
Gary Mount
USA - Friday, October 30, 2009 at 10:11:21 (MDT)
SOME PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND, QUIT TRYING TO EXPLAIN IT TO THEM,JUST DONT GET IT.NO OFFENSE INTENDED, YOU JUST DONT UNDERSTAND, I ve been fighting the v. a. for over 25 years, tried to get the help I needed, but back then it was hard to do, had to work and take care of a family ended up losing them anyways, the info.. I put in here was to help someone or direct them to get help if they need itas far as a.o. goes , since they supposedly quit spraying agent orange after april 70, AND a lot of us guys were there after that, in my case may70, dont think I will get any kind of help or be recognized for it or whatever from the v.a. or others, thought I could get some sort of documentation from someone trying to prove that ao was used by our unit specifially after april1970, thats all, if you have trouvle understanding that Im sorry.. Tex..
Gary Mount
USA - Friday, October 30, 2009 at 08:55:53 (MDT)
There is a lot of talk about one of our helicopters at Lane being used to spray chemicals. In 1968 it was my turn to be detailed to help load a dark oil-looking liquid into one or our helicopters. Those that had been detailed before me said to be careful not to spill any on your boots. It ruins the leather and you will never get a shine back on them. We used a landing on the opposite side of the hill from the 129th and dispensed the contents of a 55 gal drum into buckets and then into the makeshift trough inside the helicopter. I asked the crew chief, who he pissed-off to get assigned to this task! He was not a Happy Camper! I also inquired as to the content of the drums. I asked specifically if it was a defoliant. The answer was no, it was some kind on chemical to kill mosquitoes. Perhaps that is all that was sprayed at Lane. There was no large jungle needing killing next to us unless you considered the hillside. But that was always green when I was there.
Dan Hertlein <dhertlein at comcast.net>
Lake Tapps, WA USA - Friday, October 30, 2009 at 08:41:09 (MDT)
Backlash, Maybe you did not understand. the ripe old age of 70 is the age I started my quest for assistance.I have been working very hard for 6 years to get just a little bit of what I need.My age right now is 76 .In a few more years you are going to really see
what tricare4life has for you together with Medicare.Unless you have enough to skip both of them.Hope you do not come down with Diebetis,w/neuropth of both feet and legs,with Hypothyroidism,lose of fingers,steel plate in your legs,airborn ankles,knees,PTSD,heart problems,breathing conditions ,haveing to eat only soft foods,have to care Benidril in you pocket to keep from going to the ER everytime you lay your hands on something that was cleaned with a strong chemical like the counter at Burger King.My hands turn into many blisters,short of breath,some countys use too much chemicals to pureafy their water.
50 yards away I can smell the waiter filling glasses of water with too much chemicals.
Jim <Dustoff>
IL USA - Friday, October 30, 2009 at 07:38:01 (MDT)
On a more positive note. I have been advised that this information is valid and on schedule. I was born and raised in South Bend IN so for all you Hoosiers, take note. I have no dates but the former site of Saint Joseph Hospital in South Bend has been acquired by the VA to exist as a state of the art, major, full service, 2,000+ bed med-surgical facility in cooperation with Indiana University's School of Medicine and the brand new University of Notre Dame's School of Medicine. Both very prestigious universities. In so, it will take the load of the chop shop in Fort Wayne, the under-staffed facility in Indy and the Cook county VA that has longer lines then Disney World. It also is going to operate in a PPO (preferred provider) format. One permanent primary care doctor who refers to specialists when needed. Those of you within reasonable driving distance just may want to make that trip to the court house and inquire as to getting on their list.
Backlash
Miami, FL USA - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 20:41:27 (MDT)
HI Brother I had a good srink in 82 when & he tell me to shut up & let your wife talk I get a better picture of how things are going from her so shut up. I first went to the va it took me a few years to get what I got & time I wish I shut my face I have a lot of time to thint at night & you guy come into my head that having a hard time geting what you shoud have. I still going to read the log & that all you BROTHER AREJUST AS BAD AS ME & I WISH I COULD HELP I JUST DONT KNOW .
Art
USA - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 19:26:01 (MDT)
Backlash, good points and in my case I have my 100% for the 12 years in the Army. Guess my frustration has been having an answer for why.. The seeing ten doctors was a great statement because I never see the same one twice and they all say something different. I can also look back at a few hundred running landings we logged while training with night vison goggles wondering if that damaged my neck or nerves. You may well be right and I should just give up trying to understand why things are falling apart. My thing is wondering if I am so bad now, just what is going to go wrong next or how bad will my life be. I am the young guy here, only 55 and can hardly walk around when the pain gets really bad. Meanwhile Social Security is the biggest joke I can think of. I see why my brother died of cancer before he got one dime from them. I am a lucky one because I am not given a death sentance yet but wonder why I see so many who are walking around drawing a check. I agree with Jim that you get too much to get help if you get money from the VA. The trick is here I could get a break on several things if I get SSID even with my VA. Still can't get it without?? I think most of the vets from Vietnam just want an answer and guess we never will!
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 18:54:32 (MDT)
HI BROTHER I only have the VA & medicare & if I go to the local hospital $ 200 that out of my pocket so I go to the VA & it take me 2 hr. to get there IF I want blue cross blue sheal with att & that $ 640 dollars every 30 day & how do you pay that much I cant even refinance my house the three credit places they all got me dead when Glenda went home to be with GOD & me to & I think I was in hell this country going to hell so it be a short trip. well got to clear left. Art
Art
USA - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 18:53:58 (MDT)
Backlash, minutes apart from your last post, no doubt youre right, Expendable, you got it, I guess the one thing I can say is I did belong to the 129th, did my job and have had a fairly good life Take care.. Gary..
Gary Mount
USA - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 16:15:42 (MDT)
Didnt upset me really either , gotten used to it, just different ways of thinking or different experinces, I really am glad you have insurance I do too, but being around people that dont and knowing what I know, well I guess thats what bothers me, who is going to take care of these people, and thank you also for your service also. clear right,
gary mount
USA - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 16:07:45 (MDT)
Backlash;we posted about 3 minutes apart i just wanted to say you didn't upset me 'on the contrary you made me think.i am grateful for that and your service to your country,and hope you can make kokomo next year.
paul mcgrath
USA - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 15:54:11 (MDT)
What if you dont have lots of insurance? The report that I submitted says Agent Orange Benefits extended to more veterans, via Air Force Retiree Service that I was given at my Vet center, glad you guys hanve lots of insurance,but some of us dont not only that are so screwed up we cant work any more, too f... bad I guess ,thats the answer and pretty much has been as long as I can remember, WHAT ABOUT ALL THESE KIDS COMING HOME AND THE ONES THAT HAVE ILLNESSES FROM THE GULF WAR,hope they private insurance, I guess the answer to that is too f... bad, huh? Gary
Gary Mount
USA - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 15:53:18 (MDT)
I apologize if my post and message has caused hard feelings and upset anyone and this is EXACTLY, why I never post............. No, I do not expect any Vet to just sit back and die for any reason and I explained the only way I know how to NOT allow this to happen and what to do be treated with respect, dignity and honor at any VA facility. It has been over 34 years of protests, lawsuits and crusading, repetitively doing the exact same things, taking the same actions and finger pointing; probably a million times over this 3 and a half decade time span and not even one made it to the Supreme Court with a reconciliatory ruling let alone changed the AO/VA policy even slightly. Deploying the same tactics, millions of times over for so many years to only recieve the same results and ruling, might suggest a change in tactics. I just suggested, focus entirely on one's symptoms in the absence of blame and YOU WILL recieve all and every medical benefit and financial supplemental help you have rightfully earned. Hell no it isn't even close to just or right. None the less, it STILL is a written in stone policy since April 15, 1975. The bottom line is, it's their ball, always has been, and they have total control of every Vet's access to primo VA services. Don't bring up AO and recieve the whole steak dinner with all the trimmings or continue pointing the finger and expect to get different results where all other's have failed the past 35 years. As much as it enrages me, I now keep my mouth shut and I am now being treated like a valuable human being at the VA and have now been advise, since I backed off, that the doors are always open to my medical needs. This is a direct result of the advice I have offered. The ONLY reason I CHOOSE to pay my own way, is because 1, I can afford too. 2. Pouring VA resources and money into me at this point is a total waste and can much better be appropriated to those who it will benefit for more then the year or so I have left. Lastly, in my 34 year, 8 months and 2 days as a combat fighter/bomber pilot; from the obsolete Phantom II of South East Asia to our 2.2 Billion toys of today, exclusive to Intel covert SO pilots only, From then to now and my 9,800 some combat hours logged, I have totally understood and fully accepted the hard cold fact that I was then, and always have always been 100% expendable. That will never change and that is the legacy and reality of every post Kennedy years Vet. That pretty much says it all. Thank you Dust-off for your kind words and recognition of my 34 years of service. 70? I'd say you have definatly beat all odd an assault H1 pilot. I'm only 61 and hoping for that 62. Also, of those 34 years, 18 of them I wore a pair of birds on my lapel and refused every desk, political promotion and every attempt to get me out of the front seat. I knew where I belonged. I loved my job and regret nothing. Know what they say. Live hard, die young. Also, an USAF senior pilot holding a classified GS command, only gets 50% of their highest 5 year average. It's very generous. May I also express the same accolades to you Dust-off and your career as well as the entire 129th from then till now. Again, the intention of the initial post was to tell it like it is from long-time an insiders perspective as well as a terminal AO victim. Backlash
Backlash 68-75
Miami, FL USA - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 15:44:23 (MDT)
BACKLASH; You have a very interesting theory there.i did some looking after seeing your post and found some things that i can relate to my self.I have dm2 and have been seen at the outpatient clinic. i have tried to bring to my pcp's attention that i have a good problem with acne.i have it in all the places described and my pcp keeps putting me off with statements like"ask 10 doctors and you'll get 10 different answers". i also have hyperlipidemia and my heart attack in 2001 was caused by a fatty deposit in a cardiac artery x-1. anyway i have 3 out of 5 symptoms of an endocrine disruptor but have not seen an endocrinologist. i may have to request an appointment on my next visit to the clinic.all that i have come in contact with in the va system have been very nice and cooperative.MAYBE TOO COOPERATIVE!!!i guess what i'm saying if i have these symptoms shouldn't i be seen by an endocrinologist not a nurse practitioner. i wonder what the answer will be when i tell them i want an appointment. i have plenty of insurance so if they jerk me around i will go to someone in private practice. or maybe i should do both and compare the reports. thanks for making me think. my email is idapaul at yahoo, wouldn't mind talking on the phone.
paul mcgrath
USA - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 15:39:54 (MDT)
Backlash,Welcome home! I am sure that uncle sugar and the VA wish we would go away quitly into the night.Like you I made the military service my life.But many of the 129th AHC guys
did their part and got the F=== out.You spent 34 yrs in service and on your retirement they gave you 100% of your monthly income.Maybe over 2 or 3,000 monthly.You do not need any help to live and support a family.When you reach the age of 65 you will get a monthly
check for about 2500 to add to your 3,000.Understandly you do not need the VA to help you.
Congratulations.6 yrs ago I hit the age of 70,was a military retire with 24 yrs service.
when I retired from the service in 1972 my monthly income was $960 month.It took me 30yrs
to reach $1600 with all the increases of COLA over the yrs.6 yrs ago my electric bill went up to $ 374 monthly and with all my other bills 1600 did not cover my life. I needed
help badly.The VA say that when you reach the ripe old age of 70 you are a dead senior veteran,and it is a waste of time.effort,and money to even look at your records.As a Vet or military you do not qualify for state assistance.Not even food stamps.I am sure that the brothers are happy that you are haveing a good life.Most of them have to pay their own health care because they do not have tricare4life.I feel for them because of Unckle Sugar really doesn't care what happens to them.They deserve more.
Jim <Dustoff>
IL USA - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 12:45:37 (MDT)
Excuse the language, Mark, this kind of stuff really upsets me to read stuff like this, we all know what weve been through even thoug its been a lot of years, Im sorry but Im going to get whatever Ive got to get no matter how it turns out,. Tex the phantom 70-71..
Gary Mount
USA - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 12:35:30 (MDT)
So what are we supposed to do, just die, huh
So what are we supposed to do , just die and nobody gives a shit ?
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Gary Mount
USA - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 12:21:50 (MDT)
I would first like to express my deep gratitude to the entire 129th for the warm welcome and brothership extended to me and my 2 sons this past summer at your Kokomo, open to all camp-out. Good stuff. I was a career USAF fast-mover, permanently attached during Namm till 2005, to 2 of the then 14 intel agencies. Langley was home plate. I follow many of the Namm sites but mostly just read. The 12 of us never fit in with anyone over there or anywhere and for the most part, we never existed. I recieved a medical discharge and retirement after 34 years of service due to "chronic systemic dioxin toxicity syndrome" diagnosed buy the GS physicians at Bethesda in 2004 due to a GS flight surgeon's report. Pay close attention: the answer to receiving earned, comprehensive and appropriate VA medical care is already in already in a very recent post on your site by Ken Strong. "there were several members of my unit that seem to have some of the same problems but when I asked about Agent Orange she shut me down saying there can be thousands of reasons for the problems." The only way to win this game is not to play at all!!!! Never say, indicate or refer to agent orange in the presence of any VA staff or associated facility. With extreme prejudice, insist that the words dioxin, Agent Orange, Vietnam, defoliant or ANYTHING that could be linked to the "big lie and cover-up". You know it was there and have had to watch the decimation of your company and friends over the years. I also know the same and am terminal with 8 of the major related medical issues directly to AO exposure and am now on my 3rd go round with the big C. Forget blaming, proving, fighting for discloser and justice and all that stuff, it all means nothing! As soon as the orange is brought up or appears in your medical charts, the entire SOP changes dramaticly. They don't want to hear it and for sure they are in no way going to do their best, if anything at all, to extend your life. Your a liability, you cost too much and most of all, you are just one more witness for the defense for an admission and a lawsuit that is NEVER going to happen. Like the nurse said, these "symptoms" can be present for hundreds of reasons. Take that at face value and I guarentee you that AO, dioxin, defoliant or anything close will ever show up in a VA evaluation, diagnosis, prognosis or report. Keep your mouth closed. Tell your civilian doc to do the same. ALWAYS preview any outside test or consult report that could end up in your VA record. Do all theses things and you will get first class medical treatment. Tag yourself as one of those AO guys and trust an old spook and do the math. What would you do to or for a person or group of people that represent a major embarrassment and unprecedented lawsuit? What would be the very best thing for "them" when it comes to all the Vets suffering and that have died from AO? Yep, eliminate the witness pool by means of omission. Trust me, they can't wait for our generation to all die-off and finally put an end to all the finger pointing and accusations. This I have learned the hard way and now pretty much pay my own way. Wise men learn from the mistakes of fools. Again, the ONLY way to win this game is not to play at all. I hope this helps some of you guys. BTW, of any aggressor or assault Huey team that I had the privilege to witness in my entire 7 year tour, you guys, consistently were the badest MFs in the Valley and there was no mistaking your work. Must of had a lot of re-ups. Never-the-less, you-all saved a lot of American lives, reeked holy havoc with Charles an most definatly EARNED the 129th's "Oh Shit" reputation. Thank you. As I stated, I pretty much never post a word and have never belonged or fit in with any outfit and for good reason. There seemed to be a lot of confusion per AO in your postings and I felt the need to share. After all, I worked a very long time for the very same fat cats and politicians, that are dug in and determined to shut you up and make you just go away. This is some very accurate advise. Use it. Backlash
Backlash (68-75)
Miami, FL USA - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 11:37:35 (MDT)
Good question, Ken, seems we all share some if not all of these problems, no telling how many more out there, that are not following this post nowadays, do know this need to somehow prove that agent orange was used by our company after Aprii 1970, we are all getting OLD, and we will need to prove this, i dont know just how accurate these new tests are for toxins, but I will find out , buy if I know the v. a. were going to need all we can get, documentation, theyre is a pilot in my group that was with the240th. greyhounds and he has lukemia, has lost a lot of weight and hasnt been to the meetings lately, he was there in68-69, hopefully we can get some divine guidance on this issue, its important.., Gary..
Gary Mount
USA - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 20:26:35 (MDT)
It is great to see we all are here to share our situations. I had sent a copy of the picture to Rep. Buyer last year with my questions about problems. Not really had an answer for that one but do wonder that of the few who have found the 129th again, well how many are having the same problems and is the VA smart enough to connect the dots. I am not sure where to go with this from here.
Ken Strong
Lafayette, IN USA - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 19:28:59 (MDT)
The picture in the gallery is a ship from the 1st. plt, yellow cap skids, too bad cant see the tail and its no. anybody out there might know ? Thanks for the commo, so far., brothers.. Gary..
Gary Mount
USA - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 19:25:51 (MDT)
Fred, know what you mean, 68-15373, was a ragged out ship too, we used a couple of other dogs, but dont remeber their nos, will try perhaps getting mission reports from national archives , they still have a lot of our records, tried getting spray patterns years ago of agent orange, none after apr.70, will keep racking my brain for other documentation, would appreciate any ideas or thoughts, thanks.. Gary.. my hair was dry as straw after I came back and fell out in clumps later on, plus the splotches on my neck and back and ears, never have got rid of the rash on the nuts comes and goes, even my mom noticed my hair and neck... Tex...70-71
Gary Mount
USA - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 18:36:36 (MDT)
Hey Freddie Boy, that pilot from Dayton could have been a Mr. Ed Wagner. Lives in troy Ohio. Got a photo of him and Larry and some ROKS looking over some bounty captured from the VC. Ed says he has the same photo. Last talked to him about 2 years ago..........I have been told before that the ship with the spray rig was used for Agent Orange...........
Mark
USA - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 17:42:36 (MDT)
I wonder if this is why my hair is going away?
Jeff
USA - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 17:27:19 (MDT)
I kept getting conflicting letters from VA.I also got the run around over the phone.So i made it my mission in life to call them daily or every other day just to pull their chain.
My congressman went to Washington to the appeals dept.of VA and was told my records were still in Chicago and never were sent to them to evaluate.I called VA at 3 am and asked them if I had the Suicide Hot line for the VA.3 days later I had an appointment in John Cockran VA Hospital to see the head scrinker for PTSD.
Jim <Dustoff>
IL USA - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 17:20:24 (MDT)
Jeff, everybody that took that test came back negative, corect if Im wrong , I beleive I ve heard they have better tests now, DOES ANYONE KNOW WHEN THAT PICTURE WAS TAKEN? or does it matter? I recently got 70, had 10 for tinnutis, but when I was reevaluated from30 to 70 ptsd,somehow lost theother 10 for tinnutis vet center guy the v.a. may have come up with some kind of formula?, also, got a seperate letter saying the private shrink put inher report I am incopetent to handle money, guess better be careful what you say, huh? what a crock, working on it, been dealing with the v.a. since 83, first time got Halzion, starting seeing shit and hearing stuff , too, didnt go back till 91, took me years to get 30, lost my records, you name it, they are getting better, but look how long its been, oh well, I ll keep on fighting, Gary..
Gary Mount
USA - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 16:31:24 (MDT)
Jeff......I remember the "rig" for spraying defoliant, but I never had that mission ever. So I couldn`t say what chemical they were using. I DO know, they wanted to use the most "ragged out" helicopter......tail number 322 comes to mind.....because the CC was a guy from Dayton,Ohio......He had graduated from Roth HS in Dayton.......But I can`t remember his name.
Fred Skaggs
Annandale, NJ USA - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 16:00:41 (MDT)
That picture is on page 2 of "Choppers". You don't think that crap was nasty look at the aircraft and all the yellow gunk on it. Maybe we should attach copy to any VA claims. I was screened 20 plus years ago and nothing found then. They do send me a "very nice" Agent Orange newsletter every so often. Nothing too good for us vets.
Jeff
USA - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 12:41:08 (MDT)
i have diabetes type2 and the claim for that was a slam dunk took about 9 months. put in a claim for ptsd and that took 6 months, got 70%. put in claims for hearing loss and tinitus and got shot down on those.just put in a claim for ischemic heart disease and we'll see how long that takes.i have not had any trouble with the va, they have given me every thing except hearing and tinitus,they did give me hearing aids. i don't try to represent myself i let the state of illinois do that. i do the research online and when i submit a claim to my vso it is generally complete.the best vso you can have is yourself,nobody cares more about the claim than yourself.when i went looking for a vso i interviewed 4 before i found a good one. if i can help anyone let me know. paul
paul mcgrath
USA - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 11:59:21 (MDT)
Jeff, sure does, there is a picture of that spray rig in the picture gallerys, will have to look it up, dont know when it was taken, if my memory serves me correctly, ha!, we need to get some kind of documentation going here if possible for all of us, this crap is showing upm years later, like I stated earlier if you know of people in the armed services let them know how important it is to keep your records.. Gary..
Gary MOUNT
USA - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 11:49:32 (MDT)
Like many I don't have diabetes, I looked this up on the VA Web site and it says it shows up right away after exposure and goes away. Still it is exactly what has been going on for several years. Besides the numbness I had tingling and would drop things 1st, than had my leg give out as I lost feeling in it. Than sharp pains followed by the burning which never stops. I just remember some Vietnamese guy with a sprayer walking around the revetments sparying weeds. Still at that point, what about the water? What were they spraying because it killed everything at Lane.
Ken Strong 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 11:42:14 (MDT)
HI GUY when you were spraying did it smell like diesel fuel that what they mixed it with I know wewalk throw it & that what it smeld like & they used other stuf to mix it with. Art
Art
USA - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 08:29:45 (MDT)
Like Little John I arrived in Apr 70 and remember flying a slick with the large container in the cargo area with the long spraying arms out each side. Maybe it was fertilizer but I doubt it. This was well after Arpil as I know we spent first several months in support of the Cambodia deal and the 4th ID. If my somewhat limited memory serves me we had a ROK on board operating the lever that released the spray. Sound familiar to anyone else?
Jeff (Snapper)
USA - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 07:58:12 (MDT)
Absolutely right, I remembermthat we used 68-15373 to spray the ankhe pass with among others, remember wiping down the tail booms, it would absolutely eat the paint off the tail booM and had a oily residue to it,thing about this stuff it can show up years later,my neck aused to break out in a rash and had splotches on it too, told the v.a. years ago about it, just blew me off,also noticed some of the guys personality changes too including my own andguys just going into a rage for no reason, dont do that very often anymore but used too,, just wanted to add this. clear right.. Gary .. v.a. also real concerned about colon cancer,,
Gary MOUNT
USA - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 22:54:18 (MDT)
Every time you came in contact with a person who had been on the
ground in Vietnam.That person was soaked with Agent Orange all over his uniform.You picked up a wounded troop,he had it on his uniforn. I remember that after every mission
when we landed.We would go to the wash room and wash our faces,necks,arms they were burning with the chemicals.
Jim <Dustoff>
IL USA - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 21:15:46 (MDT)
Thanks Rick, youre absolutely right, you can get hold of me at phantom 843@aol.com or anyone else during that time , was in the129th from may70- mar.71, we will n probably need to write statements for each other and get whatever evidence,pictures or whatever incase we get these illnesses, like I said as far as I can figure they, the govt. is saying it stopped using it in APRIL 70, we know thats a crock ,Ive noticed I am starting to have numbness in my hands and feet ,not bad, the v.a. doctor asked me if I had diabetes and of course I dont,this v.a. like Im sure lots of others probably havent got the word or ignoring , dont know , but I will write anyone that was there during that time a statement I know we used it especially in the Ankhe region, clear right, Tex , Gary..
Gary Mount
USA - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 18:55:37 (MDT)
OOOOOHHHHHHH...........a re-tail store.............now I get it.......................seriously.............lil' slow, I am............
Mark
USA - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 17:19:38 (MDT)
Gary, I didn't get there till April 70 and I covered both helo spraying and c130 spraying
to the south of the An Khe Pass. Anyone notice when you file for va benefits that there is no health questions, but they do ask if you were in Vietnam. were you exposed to Agent Orange. and do you have diabetes.
Rick
Rick Benedict aka Littlejohn
USA - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 16:23:30 (MDT)
HPE THIS ALSO HELPS, IF YOU ARE NOT BEING TREATED AS YOU WOULD LIKE YOU CAN G TO THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR AT YOUR LOCAL VA AND ASK FOR ANOTHER DOCTOR, JUST SAY YOU HAVE A PERONALITY CONFLICT. DO NOT GIVE UP, THATS WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO DO. ALWAYS A BROTHER,GARY..
Gary MOUNT
USA - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 13:23:32 (MDT)
I have Neuropthy of both feet.80% left foot,50% rt foot. Rt.Thigh,lt.Calf.20% from VA
for those conditions for now and they know that it is only going to get worse and spred
to other parts of my body.I had my Thyroid removed because it was the size of a softball.I could not drink or eat and had trouble breathing.All because of Agent Orange.
When I walk,it is like walking on egg shells,both feet burn all the time.My feet are always cold.I sleep with socks on.I know that soon I am not going to be able to drive my jeep.I just hope that my system hold up long enough for this trip to the Far East.
Jim <Dustoff>
Shiloh, IL USA - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 10:30:40 (MDT)
WES and KATHY; have been trying to contact by private email and been unsuccessful. please advise am i getting filtered by spamguard?
paul mcgrath
USA - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 10:04:55 (MDT)
HI GUY you Brother got the same thing I got peripheral nueropathy & myeloma & bad head pain that hurts so bad I cant see worth a flip & surgery could kill me & my throte would close up so tight that it took them around 30 to 40 mimets. Guy all VA are not bad I go to montgomery & tuskegee so if there a VA a littlm bit farther go to see how they are you can go to what VA you want & I was glad I had. Art
Art
USA - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 09:53:44 (MDT)
A re-tail store......very funny Gale:>))) I need your 3 Bronze men cut-out for the Christmas auction. You didn't give it away did you? REMEMBER: Auction starts 11/1. I was just notified of a great assortment of priceless items for the auction this AM. Very cool and personal things!!! Lucky me...I'm the only one who knows what they are! he he. Ah, the benfit of being the Treasurer and mom:>))) he he. Love-Gently
Gently
USA - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 09:07:21 (MDT)
Thanks for the info Gary because I asked my doctor about why I have Nuerophathy in my Right arm & leg with no reason why. I pointed out that there were several members of my unit that seem to have some of the same problems but when I asked about Agent Orange she shut me down saying there can be thousands of reasons for the problems. It started sevral years ago with lost of control, dropping things or falling with no reason or pain. Than it was loosing feelings in my hands and feet. That I could live with until it changed to a consant burning pain. It has just gotten to the point that they can see there is nerve damage when they do an EMG but can't explain why. Some of the VA doctors have blamed it on PTSD or that I am just nuts. I must admit I spend a lot of time just being pissed! Maybe they might come up with an answer now or at least something that can help with the pain.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 08:56:25 (MDT)
flight, thought I would pass this along, subject, V.A. extends Agent Orange benefits , reply to Air Force Retiree Service< afpc.retiree@randolph.af.mil>, release 10-01-09 extendedbenefits caused by agent orange, B Cell lukemias,such as hairy cell lukemia, Parkinsons disease, and ischemic heart disease,it goes on to say that vets who served in vietnamand who have a presumed illnessdo not haveprovean associationbetween their illnesses and their military service, this bringsup to 15presumed illnessesrecognizedby the v.a., otherillnesses are Acute and Subacute Transient peripheral Nueropathy, loss of feelingsand or pain the extremeties, hands and feet, Al amylodosis, Chloracne, chronic Lymphoctic Lukemia, type2 diabetes, hodgkins disease, multiple Myeloma, non hodgkins Lymphoma, Porphyra Cutanea Tarda, Prostate cancer, respitory cancers ,soft tissue Sarcoma . it also states that agent orange was used fromJanuary 1965- APRIL 1970, which is a crock of shit, we were using it in the 129th., way after that to spray the Ankhe pass with it we used 68-15373 I know damn well to spray the pass with, tried getting orange spray patterns from sources and couldnt get them , I am not suffering with none of this crap other than anxiety an d depression, ptsd,Yet, BUT IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE IN OUR UNIT THAT CAN REMEBER WHAT i JUST STATED OR REMEMBER US USING AGENT ORANGE AFTER APRIL 1970, PLEASE POST OR GET HOLD OF ME, OK? I f not then its going to be hard as hell trying to get a claim on this crap, Guess theyre waiting for all of us old farts to die off so they wont have to compensate for us suffering like dogs, huh? dont tell me they didnt know about all of this years ago, also if you have a son, daughter, grandson, any kin or for that matter anyone that has gone or going to go to our war zones, be damn sure to tell them to keep the ir MEDICAL RECORDS , ALL RECORDS IF POSSIBLE because their probably going to need them now or later on, We need as old timers to get the word out and let these poor innocent kids know this ,G od forbid they get treated like we were, I wouldnt treat a dog like I was treated, always a brother,, Tex 70-71
Gary Mount
USA - Monday, October 26, 2009 at 19:14:52 (MDT)
Good words, Gale! Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Sunday, October 25, 2009 at 11:57:53 (MDT)
Frenchie, that's ok buddy. I'm sorry I didn't take any on the flight. Beautiful weather here in Indiana today........about like it was at Kokomo. Later!
Gale
USA - Sunday, October 25, 2009 at 11:11:17 (MDT)
Good advice Gale Thanks for the pix that was exceptionally nice of you. Sure miss that flight film. frenchie
Bill French 68-69
USA - Sunday, October 25, 2009 at 09:40:28 (MDT)
Everything happens for a reason. Nothing happens by chance or by means of good or bad luck. Illness, injury, love, lost moments of true greatness and sheer stupidity all occur to test the limits of your soul. Without these small tests, if they be events, illnesses or relationships, life would be like a smoothly paved, straight, flat road to nowhere.
If someone hurts you, betrays you , or breaks you heart, forgive them. For they have helped you learn about trust and the importance of being cautious to who you open your heart to.
Make every day count. Appreciate every moment and take from it everything that you possibly can, for you may never be able to experience it again. Always a brother!
Gale
USA - Sunday, October 25, 2009 at 09:21:54 (MDT)
HI guys Well I was thinking all my bad luck was over well it not the front door fram is roting away & so I went to home depot tosee how much the frame & side light would be I all most hit the floor about $ 900 dollars & that having it put in & I theank if I fell in tub of flowers I come out smelling like sss They got the water dryed up O the well pump gave out & that was 1,535 dollars I think I will dig a hole & jump in by the time I jump the hole would cave in & I be laying on the top of the ground. haseany one had this kind of luck I hope not. I have put out $3,900 so far. I got to go to the VA in nov. they think I got some more skind cancer had two places cut out so far. but not giving up & make the VA HAppy one more bite the dust I got my granson got to show him how to do things to help his mother his dad shore cant he still dont know ware to look to check oil & water he pushing 400 pounds he got the hoof & mouth problem well take care ART clear left
Art
USA - Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 20:35:44 (MDT)
good for a morning chuckle gale
paul mcgrath
USA - Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 07:30:25 (MDT)
Gale, scary man...............
Mark
USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 22:58:46 (MDT)
I had a cat once that lost it's tail. I got him another one tho.............at a retail store. Boooooooooooooooooooo!!
Gale
USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 22:47:07 (MDT)
yep food bill is pretty high but having them neutered was a killer also.it was either that or buy many cases of kitty condoms.
paul mcgrath
USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 19:14:58 (MDT)
Paul, 9? There are five here and just the food bill for them. Well I wonder sometimes how they can eat so much. Sometimes the Grand Kids help them out but guess it must be good food if they eat it too and don't get sick.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 17:51:13 (MDT)
Also believe me JAB will have no problem securing homemade cookies if i know anything about ida
paul mcgrath
USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 17:20:19 (MDT)
FLIGHT do we have anybody here that has a relative or family in iraq or afghanistan that will be there at christmas.the story about the cranberry nut bread and jim's idea have kinda givin me a boot in the butt.if we can get an address ida and i will send a large box of cookies and anything else the rest of the flight would like to donate. i remember the feeling when i used to get care packs from home.kinda makes me wanna cry.in a good way.gotta put this together soon so private email me the info at idapaul at yahoo.don't care who just they have to be in a combat zone and be there at christmas
paul mcgrath
USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 17:17:40 (MDT)
Gale ;i like women, don't know about you.yes they are very independant and will only do what they want, when they want and are very moody.we have 9 of them so i can usually find one that is compliant with my wishes.maybe i should have tried having 9 wives!
paul mcgrath
USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 13:27:13 (MDT)
Paul, we can hold off and send them when JAB gets there. Meanwhile, Mr. Dustoff...what Am i going to do with you? We still have batches to bid on flight...bidding will start at $25 a batch(that's 5 dozen cookies of your choice...pretty damn cheap). Ya gotta love that woman and Blue Star Mom Ida:>)) Love from a tiny woman in a fur coat:>)))
Gently
USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 12:26:15 (MDT)
What is a Cat?
Cats do what they want.
They rarely listen to you.
They're totally unpredictable.
When you want to play, they want to be alone.
When you want to be alone, they want to play.
They expect you to cater to their every whim.
They're moody.
They leave hair everywhere.
CONCLUSION: They're tiny women in little fur coats.
Gale
USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 12:04:06 (MDT)
JIM; sounds like a plan. GALE; thats why i have cats,they could do that but they just don't care
paul mcgrath
USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 10:54:59 (MDT)
Alex, do you have Rainer's new address? I had it, but, can't find it..........................probably my damn dogs fault. She's always checking my e-mails and deleting things!! Hehheeheheee
Gale
USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 10:13:11 (MDT)
Just checking in. Have an off day from the Zone. Liz and I head to the Great Smokie Mountains on Sunday. We both needed a vacation from work. Still on the Kokomo high and don't know when I'll be down. Liz talked to Dee. She said Ranier was home but, is very limited to what he can do. So, it will be a while before jumps on the flight log. Hope everyone has a great weekend. Looking for to see everyone in Atlanta, Ga. June 2010. Always A Brother!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 09:18:55 (MDT)
Since I have retired again, couldnt handle shift work anymore, been checking out different stuff online pertaing to the area I live in, came across while I was in a truck stop in Tulia ,Texas a treasure magazinewith a article about Spider Rocks, rocks that were found exactly 62.3 miles away from each other after the turnof the century, 1905, they are hyoglpic maps supposedly of a gold mine and or buried treasure of the Aztecs that are supposedly buried inthe area of the where the brazos riverforks off about 175 s.w. of Lubbock, in the area of the double mountains and Kiowa peak, makes for interesting reading, its online too, not too many people know about them, if anyone is interested in that sort of thing also ben people have spent bookoo money trying to find them, also, Stampede Mesa is also n the webb, but they different account than what my Aunt told us, come more to beleiving her since she only lived a few miles from it, have a good weekend, ALWAYS A BROTHER, TEX 70-71..
Gary Mount
USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 08:53:04 (MDT)
Paul,I am sure that your wife has not baked the cookies yet.Why not wait untill next year after Joshua has arr.his assignment.Ship the cookies to him for EASTER at his Unit.He will become a hero and celebrity among his buddys as the cookie King.Gently,will get the money for the X-Mas Fund this yr.Life goes back to normal and I kick the dogs butt all over southern Illinois.Sounds like a good deal.
Jim <Dustoff>
IL USA - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 06:39:30 (MDT)
HI Paul that grate I am glad for you & next year when he come home hold them to he comes home & GOD be with you & your FAMLEY & he will be aMAN like his FOTHER take care Art
Art
USA - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 19:16:05 (MDT)
my son will not be there till feb so we could do his unit next year. he will get to be home for the holidays.
paul mcgrath
USA - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 17:56:36 (MDT)
i think the dog had a very interesting idea but we would need a co's name and a definate shipping address. what do you think gently. could possibly come up with 3 more batches for the 129th. i think that we would have to include something about it being a combined effort by the veterans and wives of the 129th assault helicopter company and 498th dustoff Lane army heliport, republic of vietnam. we could also include other things that others might like to donate. when i was in nam i got a cranberry nut bread from my sister. it took a month to get there,i opened it and it was pretty green. so i got out a knife and cut the green part off. it did not last long. would like some input here from others, do we want to do this ??????
paul mcgrath
USA - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 17:53:23 (MDT)
Jim, sure......your dog can talk,but, does he say anything interesting?????
Gale
USA - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 16:33:48 (MDT)
The Dog,The DOG.just who did you think I was talking about?
Jim <Dustoff>
IL USA - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 15:35:39 (MDT)
Paul,My dog says,if we get them we can airfreight them to your sons Unite.Sure that the troops would enjoy Ida's cookies as much as all our brothers in the 129th AHC,dustoff.
Just thought!!! Most of his buddys are going to give him a nick name"J A B".You know
I mean it in a good way.I will try to teach him how to read.I just do not think he is that smart.
Jim <Dustoff>
IL USA - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 15:33:21 (MDT)
just thought ya might like to know his name Joshua Abraham Brown
paul mcgrath
USA - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 13:46:47 (MDT)
FLIGHT;i thank you all for the many words for joshua.i know some i have never met but most i have.it doesn't matter i feel it an honor and a priviledge to be associated with you all.ida has been reading comments also and feels you are family. i can assure you that when joshua is home at thanksgiving i will sit him down and make him read all the comments.i would hazard a guess that it will mean alot to him also.JIM you need to beat that dog he can't read the calendar. auction doesn't start till november 1, and besides you're diabetic and can't eat 18 dozen cookies,maybe the dog has his eye on them.IDA AND I TRULY LOVE EACH AND EVERYONE IN THE FLIGHT
paul mcgrath
USA - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 13:43:26 (MDT)
forty lashes with a limp string bean
paul mcgrath
USA - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 13:31:18 (MDT)
Flight, I still have the two folding chairs (blue & white) that were left at Kokomo!!!????
Gale
USA - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 12:14:29 (MDT)
Paul our Prayers are with Your family and your Son and those he will serve with,may all of our Brothers & Sisters come home safely, They do not deserve aney less, We will not have another VietNam, once is to mutch, they have our support and Prayers God be with them till we all meet again.
Clear on the right.
Joe&Kristy
USA - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 11:10:33 (MDT)
Paul, God bless your son and our prayers will be with him!! Bill & Kat Wolf
Bill Wolf
USA - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 10:44:23 (MDT)
he needs to be punished
paul mcgrath
USA - Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 22:27:31 (MDT)
GENTLY; what to do,what to do????????
paul mcgrath
USA - Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 22:23:53 (MDT)
Paul, I am sorry,My dog told me to do it.He said,that I cannot take it with me.And he did not want me to leave it to him.As he was a lousy money manager.Smart Dog.
Jim <Dustoff>
ILL USA - Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 21:16:21 (MDT)
Dustoff.....figures:>)) L-G
Gently
USA - Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 10:00:18 (MDT)
Paul, best of luck to your son. He will leave as a child and return as a man...be proud! Flight, I added one more photo to my Kokomo 2009 album (it's on the last page). Check it out..........................
Gale
USA - Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 08:58:25 (MDT)
i say thanks to all my brothers for their prayers for my son.not to much longer and he will be a brother also. thanks everybody it means more than i can find words to explain.
paul mcgrath
USA - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 21:12:03 (MDT)
HI every one you know cookies are good with coffey & if I drank beer they be good with it I got one thing to say what ever you bid for them it worth every cent & I still say if some need a place to stay next year just drop in got two room up &to full bath & one full bath down & can set up a bead there to if you speed MC queen on the walls & spider man my grandson room you get a kick out of him Well got to go this room geting hot 80 in here know they trying to dry it out & it going to get even hoter so take car every one Art
Art
USA - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 20:17:27 (MDT)
Paul, May God walk with your Son as all of our troops ! Fred if you meant me 307 672 8704>>>> Respects> Smitty
jim westwang 71 72
sheridan, wy USA - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 19:59:00 (MDT)
Paul, prayers for safty going out to your son. Also Paul, I could actually hear your voice when I read the HOLY SHIT post. Really :-)))).............
Mark
USA - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 19:24:34 (MDT)
Paul, best wishes with your son and Art take care, Gary..
Gary Mount
USA - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 18:50:21 (MDT)
alex; thank you, nice tie in there i didn't know about. don't know wether to be proud of him or scared for him.
paul mcgrath
USA - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 17:31:46 (MDT)
HOLY SHIT JIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
paul mcgrath
USA - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 17:26:27 (MDT)
Paul well wishes to your son. He's not only following the 101st and the 5th special forces. Also, the 129th whom supported both in Vietnam. The 129th went over with 101st in sept.1965. Always A Brother!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 16:18:22 (MDT)
Gently,I bid $100 on the 1st batch,$50 on the 2nd Batch,$25 on 3rd batch .
Jim <Dustoff>
Shiloh, IL USA - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 16:16:01 (MDT)
6 dozen your choice of flavors
paul mcgrath
USA - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 14:33:55 (MDT)
Geez Art----now we're all hungry for Ida's cookies! Keep in mind everyone that we will be auctioning off 3 batches of 5 dozen cookies each for the Christmas fund:>)) Ida's son is going to be the most popular guy on base, and everyone will have his back. It's what we'd all do for a good homade cookie. L-Gently
gently
USA - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 13:57:45 (MDT)
Art - Glad you liked the cookies. It was a pleasure to make them for you. I wish you well.
Ida
USA - Monday, October 19, 2009 at 22:03:05 (MDT)
ALVIS, my number is (618-236-7571),Only 3 minutes from I-64.
Jim <Dustoff>
Shiloh, IL USA - Monday, October 19, 2009 at 20:03:09 (MDT)
leaving out early in the morn. Wa going to build a "yard barn",weather poor when arrived home,stayed that way for a couple of days.Went and bought one instead.Install next week, I believe.Susan wants the garage back,snows soon to fly.Jim, never did get your phone #.Getting harder to leave home each time,I belong here.
alvis
USA - Monday, October 19, 2009 at 19:53:44 (MDT)
by the way thanks for the well wishes for the son. he is going to ft campbell till feb. will be in 101st airborne div, 5th special forces group
paul mcgrath
USA - Monday, October 19, 2009 at 18:31:51 (MDT)
Art no need to send container back. we have a ton of them. glad you and the grandson enjoyed them
paul mcgrath
USA - Monday, October 19, 2009 at 18:18:18 (MDT)
HIevery one & I am eating some cookies & they are NUMBER ONE & the rubber maid that they came in I send it back to you Paul & my grandson he love them & YOU & YOUR WIFE THANK you they are the first home maid one in the last two years & all the rest of you guy & they are lip smaking good.
Art
USA - Monday, October 19, 2009 at 16:10:07 (MDT)
HI every one well I asked my self what can go brake next got up & lost some water preser at the well & I theank I found the reason I am sick a lot because blue mold it so bad in my computer room I hope when they rip out the sheet rock the copet & paden it look like 2.000 or 3.000 th.could be more the bath room computer room hawlway toI hope they can clean the duck work to.it in it some day you should have never got out of bed & am I the only one that falls in it I hope my luck changes soon. Art
Art
USA - Monday, October 19, 2009 at 10:43:05 (MDT)
HI Paul your son praying for him & I thank him for what he is doing for us here Art
Arthur Foster
USA - Monday, October 19, 2009 at 10:26:58 (MDT)
Paul hope he can keep his head down over there and that they figure out what we are doing soon. I have had the question in my mind lately that my dad was in the service, my two brothers and I with one of them also going to Nam and his son and mine went in the Army. I know a lot of kids around that if the parent was in the military they go in. On the flip side I know the ones that say their kid will go "over my dead body".. I just pray we continue to give our support and honor our kids that stand up to serve. Paul make sure your son knows we are behind him and the others who are there.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Monday, October 19, 2009 at 09:20:58 (MDT)
HI Paul no they come tomorow & I let you know Brother
Art
USA - Sunday, October 18, 2009 at 13:40:27 (MDT)
well; just got word from son that he ships out to afghanistan in febuary.don't thrill me or ida a whole lot!ART did you get those cookies yet should have gotten them saturday.i'll send you somemore for your bday
paul mcgrath
USA - Sunday, October 18, 2009 at 11:28:05 (MDT)
Fred S. from you post I assume the Buckeyes lost. Was outside all day and didn't know until I read here. Coldwater lost it's 1st game last night too. Delphols St. Johns, another MAC time and state ranked scored with 19 seconds to go in the game to brake a 20-20 tie. Coldwater got the ball with 10 seconds left but couldn't pull it out......
Mark
USA - Saturday, October 17, 2009 at 20:32:10 (MDT)
How about them Red Raiders, Tech 31 Nebraska 10, surprised that Ohio State lost too, Fred, too bad Pike got hurt, good quaterback, remeber Greg Cook , he was a good quaterback, got hurt also, never was the same. Tech always underrated, .. have a good weekend, Tex 70-71..
Gary Mount
USA - Saturday, October 17, 2009 at 19:02:22 (MDT)
FIRE TRESSEL !!!!!! Move Pryor to wide receiver or tight end....he`s NOT a quarterback. .......He`s starting to play like his idol.......Mike Vick.......
Fred Skaggs
Annandale, NJ USA - Saturday, October 17, 2009 at 14:27:35 (MDT)
Free Applebee's meals on Veterans Day
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Jim <Dustoff>
Shiloh, IL USA - Saturday, October 17, 2009 at 12:06:48 (MDT)
hi ya jimmy..send me your phone #.Will chat sometime when I am stuck in some town or another.
alvis
USA - Saturday, October 17, 2009 at 10:49:35 (MDT)
here is the problem. The pharm. guy and I were talking about case load on them and the clinics. The pharm is getting more and more folks using it. He told me the high count for the month..it was over 350 patients per day.Thats darn near 40 per hour. Which is what? A minute and a half for each patient...to be een by 3 different people..just in the pharm. Taint VA staff ,they are overburned,overworked,underpaid,underappricated,and take the blunt of the groaning and moaning.Its our crongress people we need to yell at,but hey,they dont care.
alvis
USA - Saturday, October 17, 2009 at 10:46:58 (MDT)
HI guy I I know what you are goingthrow it happen to me when I was going to va here in ga. so I going to one in Tuskegee had verry little hasel med take about 15 to 20 min. it seam that they dont think about the VET if it wasent for us VET they would not have a job & there one place you can go it is vet rep & tell them what happing. be at your app. 30 mimets or more before your app. if your not they say he did not get here to 30m. befor. I been lucky I found a good VA to go to.
Art
USA - Saturday, October 17, 2009 at 08:44:29 (MDT)
Fred, sorry the way you are getting tx at the VA. I have been under the radar lately. Been kinda sick but hangin in>>>>> love & respects>>> Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
sh, wy USA - Friday, October 16, 2009 at 20:32:22 (MDT)
Fred i use my health e vet also and it is very nice to not have to f##k with waiting. you have to go in 1 time for an inperson authentication but thats it.
paul mcgrath
USA - Friday, October 16, 2009 at 18:36:01 (MDT)
Fred have you ever used the "myhealthvet"? It will let you look at what you have for meds and reorder them. I have been down to see the doctor and even if I need something I almost always tell them to mail it to me. It is nuts to be setting there @ 6PM waiting for your meds.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Friday, October 16, 2009 at 16:27:16 (MDT)
Great Huey picks!! Great!! Pages 204 and 205. he he(Sorry Kathy and wrong way) L-Gently
Gently
USA - Friday, October 16, 2009 at 13:47:26 (MDT)
But you need those meds, Fred. L-Gently
Gently
USA - Friday, October 16, 2009 at 13:44:10 (MDT)
Va has once more shown how inept they are. Walking up to the pharm. check in,i wa told in order to refill my out of date prescriptions,i needed an appointment with my primary care team/doctor. "ok",I say.I then walk down to the "gold team",wait in line,and make an appointment. Walked back to pharm. check in,took my ticket,then waited 1 1/2 hour to see the pharm. guy,in order to get my meds.(a 2 hour wait)He ,in turn, has to call/page my doc,inorder to get premision for the refills.That done,i go sit and wait another 1/2 hour to recieve my goodies.Get to he window,and they have ordered the wrong stuff,stuff i didnt ask for,nor need.Stuff that NEVER came up in the conversation with the phrm guy. Hell with it, i thought, i just turned around nd walked out,leaving them with the crap they were trying to give me. I get 5 days off a month,i am out for 30 days average.Each day i am home,is filled with things to do,including just sitting back and enjoying Susans company.It really pisses me off to have wasted 1/2 day at that place.
alvis
USA - Friday, October 16, 2009 at 13:10:12 (MDT)
Rainer Bauer, I need your new address and e-mail addy. Gale
Gale
USA - Friday, October 16, 2009 at 11:15:04 (MDT)
http://www.americanhuey369.com/page146.htm
alvis
USA - Friday, October 16, 2009 at 07:03:50 (MDT)
The 369 Huey 129th Flight photos are up on their home page. here is the link to their photo gallery < http://www.americanhuey369.com/PAGE%202009/PAGE204.htm > and page 205 has some on it too. Hey Kal, you gotta see the shine on your face from the front seat brother. Our group photo in front of the hanger is a good one also. Check them out.................always a brother...................
Mark
USA - Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 21:00:19 (MDT)
HI Paul ME & my grandson will have to my birth day & that in march but thank I havent had home cooked cookies the last time Glenda did them & GOD bless you & your WIFE. Art
Art
USA - Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 18:23:08 (MDT)
ART; cookies are on the way,about 6 dozen,don't eat all of them at once. let me know if you don't have them by saturday. paul
paul mcgrath
USA - Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 08:32:57 (MDT)
They can join us next year at kokomo and get their own darn shirts:>))))Love-Gently
Gently
USA - Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 07:12:58 (MDT)
There you go again Fred.....it's the thought that counts, don't beat yourself up over it.
Simon.
Simon Johnson <simon_johnson@talktalk.net>
Mellor, 509 County UK - Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 05:27:42 (MDT)
Dang, I shouldnt have shot my big mouth off.I didnt send our UK friends anything but pics. Forgive me Phil and Simon.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 23:11:31 (MDT)
I bought a T shirt,from the kind folks who took us flying, and sent it to Jae, our ROK friend from the Tiger Div.He is the generous friend of the 129th, who sends the Tiger patches for us. JIM H., he has posted a pic of him wearing the shirt AND the hat you were involved with. To view, click on "free board", then see the "Dust Off" posting...http://cafe3.ktdom.com/vietvet/us/us.htm....for the rest of the 129th family, this is what he writes under the pic...In addition to a DUST-OFF cap I received a couple of years ago from Mr. Fred Alvis, a member of the US 129th AHC, I have received a DUST-OFF T shirts again from him.
Mr. Alvis, and all the members of 129th AHC's US comrades. I hereby wish to express my sincere thanks for sending me such a meaningful souvenir. I will keep them as the great souvenir for as many days as I could.
In order to have our comrades at home and abroad know the fact that I have received such a beautiful present, I first took a picture of myself wearing the cap and the shirts in the living room. I will surely enjoy wearing these as soon as the warm seasons have returned next year. Mr. Alvis, thanks so much for your continuous kindness.
ALVIS
USA - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 23:05:02 (MDT)
anyone in the Phily area? A very old and good friend ( Nam grunt),jut sent me this e mail.Anyway,can someone go see him?. He is alone,both parents passed,never married,hell of a good guy... just love the va.... Hi Fred,
Just thought I'd let you know since you had once asked: I'm going into the Phila VA for surgery on Oct 13. The actual surgery will take place on
Oct 16 across the street from the VA at the Univ of Penna hospital and will be done by a liver specialist there. I was told to expect to be held
prisoner for about two weeks. She (the surgeon at U of P) will have to remove two-thirds of my liver but said it would regenerate itself in about two
weeks.
Those assholes at the Wilkes-Barre VA still never responded with authorization to have it done at U of P on an outpatient basis so I have to be admitted
to the Phila VA first and then transfered to U of P hospital, which is the reason for having to be admitted to the VA hospital on the 13th. I started composing
a letter to my senator but was interupted by a round of appointments and consultations in Phila and now getting my affairs in order to be away from home for
two weeks. So I guess the letter will probably remain unfinished until I see fit to finish it and send it.
Talk to you later,
Tony
alvis
USA - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 22:52:09 (MDT)
Melody,48th ahc happens to be the "jokers",out of Ninh hoa. They were sent from there ,up north,to support the battle of "Lam son 714",in 1971. Those of you who havent heard of it,goggle it...the NVA kicked ass. Jim, been passing by your house, dont have your number...e mail it to me pleae. home for 5 days, Gently,pased by 145 today,darn near called.Spent the night up in Neenah,pulled that load out of Nashville.Talked to Gary W. and Alex,on my way to there when I passed thru Memphis. Their both well.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 22:22:01 (MDT)
Art : cookies will be mailed tomorrow,you should look for them on friday or saturday. paul and ida
paul mcgrath
USA - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 22:19:22 (MDT)
Flight; by the way a notification was put out yesterday that b cell lukemias,parkisons disease, and heart disease will be added to the AO presumptive list in the near future.anybody here with heart disease should figure on seeing vso and file. clock starts ticking the day you file.
paul mcgrath
USA - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 19:19:30 (MDT)
JIM; that was way cool buddy!!!!!!!!
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 18:32:15 (MDT)
OK. flight; i have not disussed with gently but am trying to make this simple. 3 batches of cookies will be auctioned. this will be 6 doz cookies in a batch(homemade fron scratch) any two or three flavors you want up to the six dozen,shipped to your door priorty mail for any date between dec 15 and january 1. there will be 3 batches for auction. will need choices of flavors by dec 5 was going to try to do pies but not sure they will ship well. will look at next year and sending them frozen with dry ice. just cook in the oven.come on now guys lets bid high.
paul and ida
lasalle, il USA - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 17:59:34 (MDT)
Geez Art....how awful for you. You're in my prayers...for things to get better and life to be easier. 123 times? Should have been "129." I am sorry though..and yes touchy, so let's drop it already%@!#$%#$! I'm thinking of a "special" T-shirt for all of us to wear at Kokokmo next year...what do you think? It'll be alot of organizing but I think I can do it if you all cooperate for a change. he he Bill Whelan...do you print t-shirts? Christmas Fund auction starts Nov 1st and ends Dec. 1st. Those of you who have auction items email me on the side with the info(Gentlyjs@yahoo.com) I just got a very nice check for $250 from "Dust-off" for an item he sold on Ebay...love ya bunkie buddie.
L-Gently
Gently
USA - Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 09:29:48 (MDT)
Don, 123? I didn't count them. You know how "touchy" she can be......................
Gale
USA - Tuesday, October 13, 2009 at 21:53:07 (MDT)
Gently, ............ 123 times? WOW I think that is a BIG NO. LOL ;-P
Don Miller
USA - Tuesday, October 13, 2009 at 20:56:44 (MDT)
HI every one Well I have here in this house 8 year & the shit hit the fan had to rip the bath room my computer room & part of the heating system & sink out water leak I have copper pips they just happen to hit one with a nail have you evet walk on copet that wet & that how my luck is running plus the truck got hit this guy went & took a short cut it just happen to be at mebumper two splash pan head light & there be more when they take it a part Then he had taken wrong exit & that took the cake & had the a case of the ass but I was glad I did not have my grandson with me he still & scream if you turn to fast to the left or right from when his fother turn the truck over & let him stay hanging up side dowm I am hoping he will grow out of it if you do somthing like that you half to grave him & hold him tight & try to carm him down.
Art
USA - Tuesday, October 13, 2009 at 20:01:35 (MDT)
Gently, I did make the covers. It really has that look on the black shatter proof ornaments I got this evening. I need to make one a wee bit bigger for them but I really like the look of silver(actually aluminum so its light weight) on black. My older post about the jewelry also has a pic link on my name, just forgot to say that I did!
Melody
USA - Tuesday, October 13, 2009 at 19:31:04 (MDT)
HI Gently I have a soft ware from PC pitstop for a year know and no problem you buy it for a year $30 bucks ayear & it has a lot more soft ware take a look at it you can run it for free but it wont fix thing to you buy it you got nothing to lose you might like it
Art
USA - Tuesday, October 13, 2009 at 10:48:32 (MDT)
Mel, just saw the attachment(click on her name) of the ornament covers. Cool! Do you make those? Kinda "Harley" looking:>) L-G
Gently
USA - Tuesday, October 13, 2009 at 10:33:02 (MDT)
Geez..............must have a virus on my machine...sorry about that everyone. How annoying! Mel, better that you keep them and send them to the winners. I just need a sdescription that I can "fluff up" for the sake of making the big bucks here:>)) L-G
gently
USA - Tuesday, October 13, 2009 at 10:29:20 (MDT)
Gently, should I send the items to you? I also just discovered some Christmas ornament covers...link on my name too.
Melody
USA - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 19:48:19 (MDT)
Marky Mark.....Yea I just got back from Columbus, I went to the game. A friend of mine, Pat, his wife died back in August.....of breast cancer.....I was in their wedding and we`ve been good friends since 1975.....they were both "alumni" of OSU and had season tickets......but he ask me to come home and go with him to the games....so I do. I know....it`s a hell of a way to get a free ticket, but ole Pat is 59 years old and lost without his wife......Ross Holman played a great game, he got called for a "un-sportsmanslike conduct" flag!!!!! But the "Wisconsin" player hit Holman first, and he punched back and got caught. That`s the way it happens......I told my buddy Pat, " I`ve been to a "bar" in Coldwater, Ohio, where Holman`s from!!!!!.....Mark, I always keep-up with Coldwater football.......it`s the essence of "small town" midwest football.....Ohio teams come here to Jersey and play football.....Cincy Elder and Moeller always "kick-ass" and beat some of Jersey`s best HS teams..........BUT......the best college team in Ohio is U of Cincy......I think they could beat OSU, that QB (Peak) of Cincy is the real deal and the best QB since Greg Cook.....a Chillicothe, Ohio boy........
Fred Skaggs
Annandale, NJ USA - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 15:30:30 (MDT)
Oooooops.....maybe that was the wrong choice of words!? Heheeheheee...I love it!
Gale
USA - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 11:35:39 (MDT)
Wait a minute! Serve You?! It'll be a cold day in.....:>))))))))))) L-G
Gently
USA - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 10:40:24 (MDT)
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Gently
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USA - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 10:40:05 (MDT)
OK, Christmas Fund info: Mail your hundreds to me at: Judith Singer(Gently)
2228 N. 115th Street, Wauwatosa WI 53226. But only IF you can afford it. As part of our fund raising this year, we will be auctioning (sight unseen per usual) Ida's cookies, Mel's jewlery, perhaps some art from the Aussie girl, Gale's 3D 3-bronze men cut-out. I won't start this until early November so you have time to offer items if want us to auction something off. Checks I take all year round. I have my hotel room for Kokomo next year:>)))) he he Love-Gently(Gentlyjs@yahoo.com)
Gently
USA - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 10:26:48 (MDT)
Good morning Brothers and Sisters of the 129th:
how do we send a check to for the unit fund?? we dont have an address to send it to. Kokomo was the greates time we have in a long time, it was worth the time to spend with great folks.
Is the unit planing to get a GP tent??? Kristy and I are going to Utah maybe next week I like to stop at a Army supply store on the way to Idaho, we can see what they have there, It would be like the old days.
We hope that everyone is staying in good health our prayers are with all of you.
Clear on the right 745 out.
Joe Nicolich <joeandkristy@citlink.net>
USA - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 09:44:54 (MDT)
Good morning Brothers and Sisters of the 129th:
how do we send a check to for the unit fund?? we dont have an address to send it to. Kokomo was the greates time we have in a long time, it was worth the time to spend with great folks.
Is the unit planing to get a GP tent??? Kristy and I are going to Utah maybe next week I like to stop at a Army supply store on the way to Idaho, we can see what they have there, It would just like the old days.
We hope that everyone is staying in good health our prayers are with all of you.
Joe Nicolich <joeandkristy@citlink.net>
USA - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 09:40:52 (MDT)
HI Gently I needyour address to send you some money Art
Art
USA - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 08:39:32 (MDT)
Mark,When I go to HongKong do you want me to look into the Bull Dog Patch for a Cap?
Jim <Dustoff>
IL USA - Monday, October 12, 2009 at 07:48:23 (MDT)
no; if you have to send it to gently ok.
paul mcgrath
USA - Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 16:30:01 (MDT)
HI Paul can I send you some money & do what you want PLEASE Art
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USA - Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 14:55:08 (MDT)
HI Paul my address is 4716 youngsmill rd.Hogansville GA. 30230
Art
USA - Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 11:44:23 (MDT)
Art; send me your mailing address to idapaul at yahoo dot com. will have to do them this week as ida has some surgery on the 23rd and wont feel like it for a few weeks after. send address as soon as possible. i owe you this for the camera.teach him about the outdoors while you are eating them. wish i could be there for that.
paul mcgrath
USA - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 20:56:12 (MDT)
OK will look for a smaller GP then. Yeah, sleepin' in the back of the pick-up ain't all it's cracked up to be;-0..............
Mark
USA - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 20:49:44 (MDT)
Art; will let you know as soon as the wife feels like baking again. proabably a week or so. will need your mailing address then.
paul mcgrath
USA - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 20:35:58 (MDT)
HI Paul some chocolate chip. MY Granson like them to me & him will have a good time eating them AT the back water & some ice tea siting on the tail gate of truck he getting so big well take care.
Art
USA - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 17:32:29 (MDT)
Sara, please tell us who you can't stand............you're killing us!!!!!
Gale
USA - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 16:23:18 (MDT)
help me i cant stand them please
sara <spc1998@aim.com>
northborough, massachusetts USA - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 14:26:19 (MDT)
I don't know why on earth I didn't see this to begin with but one of the trucks in the pictures when its huge says 48th AVN on one side of the bumper. Would anybody know if they have some type of group on the web anymore?~~~~~~~~Als, Gently I have tried to e-mail you but I think there has been a problem with my service. It seems that people either don't get em or it gets sent to the junk folder. I will put in a link to a picture of a few things I would like to donate to be sold for the Fund. Its not much, just some stuff made of leftover jumprings. Its a wallet chain made of stainless steel and the earrings are sterling silver with swarovski crystals.
Melody Pershall
Amarillo, TX USA - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 14:14:20 (MDT)
All kiddin' aside. It would be nice to have enuff room for those who don't want to stay in a motel (or their car). Maybe some cots, etc ??? Gently could put a little apron on and provide the room service......................
Gale
USA - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 11:06:52 (MDT)
Mark,Something around 22',would be great.
Jim <Dustoff>
IL USA - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 10:24:05 (MDT)
Can you find one half that size?
Gale
USA - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 10:16:31 (MDT)
Mark, WOW! I will have to go back and check the size of each site but think it would just fit if the side ropes are staked straight down. May have to change a few things by moving things around to where the tent sets further back into the site I had behind it so we would have room for the fire & to set outside. The up side of that is we have been so lucky and not had rain for the past four years but if our luck runs out we would have a place that is dry to set in for sure. Last thought is there would be room to sleep in too for those of you that sleep in the back of their truck, LOL..
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 09:29:47 (MDT)
Big enuff for a 3-ring circus!!
Gale
USA - Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 07:07:59 (MDT)
Mark, That tent would be long enough to strech from the front road to end of the site.where the front of the bus was.32'8".Like a MASH patients ward.If the RV bus was parked right behind the Trailer that was on our right.
Jim <Dustoff>
Shiloh, IL USA - Friday, October 09, 2009 at 21:57:45 (MDT)
Hey gang....I be checking out some GP tents for the Kokomo camp site. Question is, with the space that we have, what size would work the best? What is the combined total of the sites that we had this time? would these measurments work. This is a medium........Ridge Height : 10'...............Eave: 5'6"................ Length: 32'8"..............Width: 16'..............Weight without poles: 250 lbs.............Floorspace: 528 sq.ft..............Material: 12.29 ounce duck ( roof, sidewalls, endwalls)............
Mark
USA - Friday, October 09, 2009 at 21:08:05 (MDT)
Fred Skaggs.....you been following Ohio High school football still? Coldwater ( state ranked #1 Div. 5 ) beat St Henry State Ranked #2 Div 5) 17-0 tonight. Coldwater 7-0 now with a clinch for the playoffs with home field first game , probably. The Homan boys are doing well at OSU also. Ross ( the Jr ) starting every game and Adam (The Freshman) on the scout team. Also have another Coldwater boy , Tony Harlemant, on the scout time. Coldwater has a good team this year but have had better ones in years past. Will be interesting to see how they fair out this season................
Mark
USA - Friday, October 09, 2009 at 20:31:22 (MDT)
Reading some of the como. I was there on my second tour about 8/67 to 4/68. Didn't see any tents. And, don't remember the church either. The px was on the back side of lane. And, you passed the dispensery to get to the px. Also, hand the guard dog unit on the back side. Spent alot of time on guard duty with Daniel Rasolosky. We always had the post on either side of the main gate. Also remember a Jim Hardy from Dayton, Ohio. think he was maintence. Always A Brother!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Friday, October 09, 2009 at 16:24:55 (MDT)
Gently: Will have a check in the mail for the fund money we used in Kokomo. Money well spent. Wished all of our 129th Brothers and Sisters could have flown with Ron and Kal. I am still on a high from our trip to Kokomo. Always A Brother!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Friday, October 09, 2009 at 16:09:20 (MDT)
gently;arts cookies are something i owe him for something he gave me. there will still be 3 batches of cookies for the auction.will talk on the phone soon
paul mcgrath
USA - Friday, October 09, 2009 at 13:39:44 (MDT)
Jim! My bunkie buddie! How's our other Jim bunkie buddie? The 129th Family thanks you so much for donating the money from your auction item to us..I'm already planning a fun time for next year with the money:>)) God bless ya babe..and take care of that ticker for us! Love you-Gently
Gently
USA - Friday, October 09, 2009 at 13:33:17 (MDT)
As we read a check is in the mail for the 129th fund.My grandson says,sorry for the delay!
He had to wait for the check to clear from the people who won the Ebay Auction.I know Gently,will put it to good use.Roomate
Jim <Dustoff>
Shiloh, IL USA - Friday, October 09, 2009 at 10:04:40 (MDT)
Ah Paul......aren't those cookies for sale as a fund raiser for us? We should consider them such even if they aren't for Christmas. L-the keeper of our funds(Gently)
Gently
USA - Friday, October 09, 2009 at 09:27:02 (MDT)
Hey Paul & Ida the cookies were great and the reading material not bad as well. Had a wonderful time at Kokomo, still enjoying all the stuff that took place. Look forward to seeing everyone in Atl. LATER, Stickman
Jim "stickman" Oliver
pembroke, ga USA - Friday, October 09, 2009 at 08:36:03 (MDT)
ART;what kind do you want?tell me that and we will do something for you. paul
paul mcgrath
USA - Thursday, October 08, 2009 at 12:10:34 (MDT)
HI flight how do you order cookies would like some for my grandson.
Art
USA - Thursday, October 08, 2009 at 11:48:43 (MDT)
Paul and Ida, the cookies arrived at Stickman's house yesterday. They have been (thoroughly) taste tested by myself and Jim's daughter Missy, and declared perfectly wonderful. Thanks...
Vickey
Pembroke, Ga USA - Thursday, October 08, 2009 at 09:43:56 (MDT)
Melody, A "casual" duty designation means service member is either awaiting assignment to a unit, is awaiting a school to start or is at a seperation point awaiting discharge. There are a few more times a casual designation could be used but none that would mean anything bad. Bottom line is that service member is literally just "hanging around" awaiting something thus he or she is casual.
Jeff
USA - Wednesday, October 07, 2009 at 16:46:22 (MDT)
Will be signing off for awhile, thanks again for the help, Gale, take care , Tex..
Gary Mount
USA - Tuesday, October 06, 2009 at 23:43:39 (MDT)
Melody,sounds to me like he was awarded the aircrewmans badge and getting a or being awarded the airmedal is a honor, he would of had to have25 hours of airtime, sorry he was there before my time, hopefully someone will remember him, sincerely, Gary..
Gary Mount
USA - Tuesday, October 06, 2009 at 15:41:31 (MDT)
Gary I will try that soon I hope.~~~~~~Gale, I was looking at the records I requested of his. It has dates on there. It says that as of Jun 27th 1968 he was "casual" under principal duty and that was pretty much the end of that page on his duties and such. It says he also got an Air Medal. I really don't know if thats anything really special. It also says he got the Acft Bdg by the authority of SO# (something I can't read) 129th Avn (something else I can't read)~~~~~~I do believe that if someone knew him they would of remembered him. He was a hard to forget kind of guy. Thanks again guys, it means allot to me.
MElody
USA - Tuesday, October 06, 2009 at 14:20:20 (MDT)
Melody, I don't know if you've been on the 129th home site or not. On the the 1968 roster Olen W. Garrett was a SP/4 and left the 129th AHC in November of 67. He enlisted in March 1965 and ETS'd in February 1968. Your photos are dated January 1968. If you have not seen the roster already and want to look...go to www.129th.net/. Go to gallery...then rosters & more...then click on Roster April 1968...then click on 3. It does'nt give the date he got to the 129th AHC. I was there at the same time,but, his photo does'nt look familiar. I'll check my photos again........................Gale
Gale
USA - Tuesday, October 06, 2009 at 09:04:09 (MDT)
Melody hope this helps or you my have already done this, if you have his serial no. or Army service no. you can either e-mail or write to the national archives ,they have a lot of old records , they were able to get me some info. that I wouldnt be normally able to, hope this helps, Tex..
Gary Mount
USA - Tuesday, October 06, 2009 at 08:18:56 (MDT)
Thanks guys for taking a look at the pictures. I am a wee bit discouraged at this point to tell you the truth. I have tried to find info on his other units he was with but to not many results, well no results really. The date on the photos must mean it was when he was with the 48th Avn Co but I couldn't find much on them currently. I had once upon a time tried to apply for a membership at a group of theirs but was denied. Guess I just have to regroup again.~~~~~~~~~~~~ There are stories about his that might help some remember him, not sure. His last name is Garrett and they messed up on his fatigues and they said carrott. He also sort of shot himself on accident. A bullet richocheted and shot him somewhere in the leg region. I was also told that at least one of the crew he was on was killed while he was on leave. I don't know if the last one was true or not. Thanks again guys.
Melody
USA - Monday, October 05, 2009 at 22:35:09 (MDT)
In the photo titled , "Brad and Buzz" take a close look at rad's uniform. Makes me proud. Thanks Brad.......................always a brother...........
Mark
USA - Monday, October 05, 2009 at 19:21:17 (MDT)
Ur right Gale.. I don't think any of those pictures are from Lane. One of them has 2 fixedwing aircraft in it so that wasn't Lane for sure. I also don't remember that church in another pix. I remember the PX at Lane and it was close to the Dispensory, but I don't recall any tents over there. Melody, post more pictures when you find them and we will be glad to look. Good to see and hear that you are doing well now. I was wondering what happened to you and it is good to see you back..I also an sorry to say that the picture doesn't ring a bell either. Take care...>>>
Kal - 68
USA - Monday, October 05, 2009 at 18:28:53 (MDT)
Jim, I don't recall tents by the PX, but................that was 41 years ago! Cheeeze oh man!!!!!
Gale
USA - Monday, October 05, 2009 at 18:05:38 (MDT)
Gael,Do you remember where the PX was on the other side of the Hill.Just left of the PX there were tents untill March of 68.About 6 or 7.The rest of Lane had already built Hooches.I think that the Heavy Haulers lived there.
Jim <Dustoff>
Shiloh, IL USA - Monday, October 05, 2009 at 17:41:33 (MDT)
I am wondering if it could be when he was leaving the 48th Avn BN. I think it must be. He was in the 129th starting the 28 of jan. Sigh...was hoping!
Melody
USA - Monday, October 05, 2009 at 17:31:04 (MDT)
Melody, I'm glad you are feeling better,but,I'm confused.I was at Lane Field with the 129th AHC from Aug 1967 to May 1968 and nothing in those photos look familiar. We didn't have tents.......it was all hootches by then. Anyone else recognize anything? Alex, Rick, Kal? Gale
Gale
USA - Monday, October 05, 2009 at 17:19:33 (MDT)
Just dropping by to say hello. Had a garage sale this weekend and had an issue with the phone line for a few days so I am sorry for the delay in postingg pictures on the yahoo group. I just made an album with some of the pictures. I know it was fron the time he was in the 129th. He was in the 129th from Jan of 68 to June of 68. Before that he was in the 48th Avn Co and before that the 647 QM Co, PETRL OP. Still haven't found much of the last one. ITs an on going journey I guess.
Melody P
Amarillo, TX USA - Monday, October 05, 2009 at 16:09:08 (MDT)
STICKMAN; cookies will arrive wednesday or thursday,priority mail package. let me know when you get them, either here or at idapaul at yahoo.
paul mcgrath
USA - Monday, October 05, 2009 at 13:16:14 (MDT)
speaking of ghost storys heres one from my neck of the woods, back in the 1880s,down off the caprock, not too far as texans think 70 miles from lubbock east there is a mesa that is called stampede mesa to this very day, a sudden storm came up and spooked a large herd of cattle that were on a mesa,the old cook had just lit his latern for the night, they say every so often you can see that latern moving and many cows going over the clift and you can see the cooks latern as it goes over it too, it usually hits the local paper here at Halloween. THE PHANTOM 70-71.. .. P,.S.. MY AUNT LOIS . grew up on a ranch not too far from it in Blanco Canyon , just remembered
Gary MOUNT
USA - Monday, October 05, 2009 at 11:20:29 (MDT)
It wouldnt be a ghost story , Alvis, how about the Flying Dutchman? N o disrespect to 959, but I remember hearing storys about it, that when the weather got bad in the area it went down in , that the pilot would come on the radio and would ask for a vectorfrom Phucat tower and would call out their no. 959er, they said that it sounded far away, heard that story on more than one ocassion, again no disrespect to our brothers. Tex70-71
Gary MOUNT
USA - Monday, October 05, 2009 at 10:52:21 (MDT)
thinking of writting a fictional ghost story for amusement in here.Its almost halloween and it give me something to dwell on,asthe long miles pass under the 18wheels.It shall be about a ghost Huey helicopter,tail number 666, of course,perhaps named,with nose art to match,Hells Belle (pronounced Bell).Of coure we all know a Belle is a fine southern ladyor anylady,for that matter.Hmmmm? Thru the heavy monsoon air,the sound of the Hueys blades,could be heard long before it could be seen....
alvis
USA - Monday, October 05, 2009 at 08:02:11 (MDT)
The havent posted pics yet of us flying, but here is their addy....
http://americanhuey369.com/index.html
alvis
USA - Monday, October 05, 2009 at 06:54:24 (MDT)
simon, jut checked out the photos of the 509 and Buzz A.,..wow, what an honor.
alvis
USA - Monday, October 05, 2009 at 06:43:04 (MDT)
Art and flight, I understand thats between you and Richard, I didnt talk about anything that happened over there either for many years until I found this webbsite not quite 2 years ago, I guess I need to let it go, thank you for the info, ART, AND Gale, I was able to get quite a bit done, doing100% better, thank you again, Tex the Phantom 1st. flt. plt. 70-71
Gary Mount
USA - Sunday, October 04, 2009 at 20:32:41 (MDT)
STICKMAN; cookies are being baked at this moment, will ship tomorow, will advise tomorrow on date of arrival. enjoy paul and ida(td)
paul mcgrath
USA - Sunday, October 04, 2009 at 19:08:21 (MDT)
Smitty, am home till about noon tomorrow (got in anout 7:30 tonight).I will e-mail the pics to you buddy. i have a bunch of emails,many want pics...i have 5 days off starting the 15th, hopefully,can catch up with all mail then.
alvis
USA - Sunday, October 04, 2009 at 19:05:21 (MDT)
Smitty...Griff and I talked, you did come up in the convo...and yes, he remembers you my friend. he said so with a smile and a grin...as if remembering things..ooppps, shup up alvis.
alvis
USA - Sunday, October 04, 2009 at 18:57:03 (MDT)
HI fl;ight About Richard his wife called me & told m he would not talk what happen over there but he started to after it to her she was so glad he had started to change & told me thank you so verry much but Richard is still the ac I know he close & that all I can tell you about him we got that thing between us I still have a photo of that 60 & 351 when I came in & seen it.
Art
USA - Sunday, October 04, 2009 at 18:14:56 (MDT)
one more thing I want to add , both m-60s failed to fire or jammed that day, Paul used his m-16 to return fire , dont know or remember if they were mine or not, I only had one of my 60s jam one time and it was due to a short round, I was with Fire that day, guess it may or may not matter, for some reason had to add that, Gary..
Gary MOUNT
USA - Sunday, October 04, 2009 at 12:32:40 (MDT)
ART and flight just thought if anyone would know ehere to contact Laughlin he might want to talk to Pauls brothers or maybe have a better memory of that day, thanks, Gary..
Gary Mount
USA - Sunday, October 04, 2009 at 12:18:16 (MDT)
Art, thank you for the info and sharing your feelings, I remember you once I saw your picture,I never got the chance to fly on Tiger Wagon, I will say through this webbsite and the good samaritan efforts of Gale, I was able to talk to Pauls 2 brothers on the phone , his younger brother and his older brother, it was not easy for me , I always felt guilty and bad about that day and told them how I felt, neither one holds anything against me, just one of those things they said and I shouldnt feel guilty or bad, that helped more than I could ever say, there are things about that day that for whatever reason will bother me till the day I die,I can remember so many things about that time , they are vivid in my memory, but for some reason there are blank spots about that day, I remember without a doubt that me and Tony went by the ops. shack when that mission came in it was around 1 or 2 in the morning, thats when the blank spots come in, at that time I was a crewchief and had my own gunner,Jose Rivas, it would have been very unusual for me to be a gunner for Tony, never had been before, sure of that, Im thinking that maybe I was a replacement for someone else, did go out that morning on that snoopy low, came in for lunch at Lane, was told to stand by, I went to go eat chow, went to my bunk and was taking a nap when I heard the ships crank up, I ran down there but it was too late, asked the old plt. sgt., dont recall his name, who took my place, he said Paul did, he wanted to go,remember them bringing in171, it was shot to s..t, and remember Tony talking about Nolen, I think you were there tooat that time , nobody but me remembers coming in for lunch that day but me and I can understand that, I guess I should let it go, but for whatever reason I cant, Idont dwell on it, I feel a lot better about it, I dont feel guilty as much, just cant shake it,I dont think any of us ever will , thats my cross to bear thank God for this webbsite, ther e would have been no way in hell that I would be able to feel better or talk to Nolens brothers and tell them how I felt or share my memorys of him, after 38 years , may God less my brothers the 129th. Tex 70-71
Gary Mount
USA - Sunday, October 04, 2009 at 12:02:26 (MDT)
Hi Flight Gary I had seen RichardA lot of years ago when he & his wife came to se me & he told me what happen that day he was the AC on 351 I was the gunner & Larry brewster cc more than I wanted to HE puled his crew off that day I flew on a nother ship Larry I dont know what he did that day I know he tied on a good one that night I was on my bunk Larry & paul were talking About flying so & Larry told Paul ok & Paul went out & Larry hit his bunk & how I can rember this I can tell you a lot of thing that happen to to me in Nam from 68 to Aug of 71 nov 13 a buddy took my place on a clover leif Earl Fray was his name the day was NOV 13 1968 he step on a 105 round that the bad guy set up & it in my head what he look at & burnt flesh to this day I can still smell it & see the peaces of humen skin I could not tell you his arms leg & head went & I had that smell on me water would not wash it off & there is 5 more times I can tell you thing that happ en to me when I was a grunt I have my hell to live in & with Glenda in a better place you just dont know what it like now with out her to hold me when I cry like a babby & it there at time to just give up & that war hurt a lot of guy 7 the one that are lucky are the one on the WALL & Paul was A frend & i have one thing about Paul he got loaded one night & a hooch maid left there tub the big one well Paul fell in it he shouted out help me I am drouning afetr about a few minets I yeld out dround & let us sleep & hurd so guy laft he got out walk in not a dry spol on him hi Paul & Paul would do eany thing for you well I sead it &see what happen to nightI hate night.
Art
USA - Sunday, October 04, 2009 at 10:25:48 (MDT)
Up late but ok, worked shift work for30 years and a lot of graveyards 12-8 a.m , still with me ,one more person that was involved that day that Paul Nolen was wounded, Richard Laughlin ,if anyone should know where he may be let me or us know on this webbsite, ive tried with no sucess, thanks TEX 70-71..
Gary Mount
USA - Sunday, October 04, 2009 at 01:33:54 (MDT)
Cool!!!!!
Gale
USA - Saturday, October 03, 2009 at 13:36:42 (MDT)
That's awesome Gary, absolutly awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...............................my heart is melting............I'm so happy for you all.................always a brother..........
MARK
USA - Saturday, October 03, 2009 at 13:06:29 (MDT)
Just want to say , thanks again , Gale, with your help, I was able to talk to 2 of Paul Nolens brothers, his younger brother and older brother it was a honor to talk to both of them , paul was on his 3rd. tour, he was well liked and well respected , a hell of a crewchief, rest in peace , Iam finally at peace, Tex 70-71..
Gary Mount
USA - Saturday, October 03, 2009 at 13:00:58 (MDT)
Thanks Jerry and it was great meeting you in Kokomo and glad you had a good time. Like many I am still flying high from the reunion of so many of our new family. I know just a few years ago I felt alone and lost trying to forget. It has been such a turn around for me to find, talk to and see so many from the 129th. My stepson Joe is still amazed that we can see someone for the first time in so many years and give each other big bear hugs. I know there were a lot of tears this year too but when we are together I see the healing of us all. I know I love Kokomo as it gives us the time at night setting around the campfire to relax and share feelings. That is not a normal guy thing but it is that time each year when we open our hearts to each other. It is something that I have not been able to do for years and keep wanting more and more people to find us and have the chance to enjoy it. We are really lucky to have so many together and my heart goes out the the ones I talked to from the 114th, 121st and 128th looking for others from their units. Still they seemed to be happy just stopping by to talk to us. For those who have not been yet it is really different. Like coming back and finding the ADA guys came over and left food for us on Saturday. We make friends each year of those who camp around us, than wait till September to see them again. It is like a city that pops up for all of us to be a part of.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Saturday, October 03, 2009 at 10:47:38 (MDT)
Griff, dou you remember me???? Jim Westwang
jim westwang 71-72
USA - Friday, October 02, 2009 at 23:40:53 (MDT)
Ken, Tell Joe the job market is still declining here in western Pa. I will keep looking and if I find something I will let you know so you can pass it on to him.
Jerry
Pa USA - Friday, October 02, 2009 at 14:38:22 (MDT)
Flight, there is two pages of photos at the 129th yahoo photo site. Scroll down and click next.
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london, LONDON ENGLAND - Friday, October 02, 2009 at 03:44:28 (MDT)
Cut and paste this: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/129thahc/ into your search engine/browser. it will open up the Yahoo page..Click on "Photos" on the left and you will find hundreds of 129er photos:>))) Keep the site in your "Favorites." You might have to sign in and get a password...but once you do you're in. We're always here for you Wrong way. L-Gently
Gently
USA - Thursday, October 01, 2009 at 12:17:12 (MDT)
HI now you tell me that will work now I tell you I am a grunt all you need to know is what end of rifel the round come out
Art
USA - Wednesday, September 30, 2009 at 20:10:12 (MDT)
For those with GOOGLE EARTH, Lane is now visible better at about 4,000ft, then starts to fade out. Lots better then it was but still not as good as those photos I had of Lane at kokomo from the Terra server satilite............On GOOGLE EARTH, Lane is at Grid cords....13 Degrees 48'05.26" N........and ........109 degrees 05'51.50" E.....Lane tower out...................always a brother
Mark
USA - Wednesday, September 30, 2009 at 19:06:30 (MDT)
Hey Wrong Way.....that would be the Brotherhood Love Drug. Directions for taking, Take the biggest dose you want, any day, all day. Good deal Wes and God bless ladies like Kathy. Sept when she tells you the wrong way to go ;-)))).........always a brother..........
Mark
USA - Wednesday, September 30, 2009 at 18:57:20 (MDT)
Mark. Never wrote any words to the song but yours fit. Spent a bit of time sitting in the corner and crying and could never really explain why to anyone. Kathy tried to understand. In my own mind, nothing ever made sense until now. The Kokomo trip has settled a lot of things in my head. For the first time in 38 years I feel like I belong someplace and it is all the fault of all of you that were at Kokomo. Thank God for you people and the hearts that you have. Especially Gale, Ron and you Mark. As a method of measure my BP was 156/90 before I left for Kokomo. Now it is running 120/68. Went to the doc today for a checkup and he wanted to know what kind of drugs I was taking.
wrong way wes <griff90880@msn.com>
Clatskanie, OR USA - Wednesday, September 30, 2009 at 18:19:32 (MDT)
The 129th Yahoo group is located at < http://groups.yahoo.com/group/129thahc/ >. At the very top left, you will see a "Sign In" / Help text. if you already have a yahoo account, you can sign in with it. If you don't have a yahoo account , you will have to start one. This is free. You will have to click the Sign in text and it will take you to a page where you have to make up a name for yourself ( for new members ) or use your Yahoo name ( for yahoo accounts already ) and then make up a password. If you don't do this the click list on the left of the group will have all the things , including photos in BOLD letters. if they are not in BOLD you need to start an account. .........don't know how else to tell ya how to do it. Hope this helps those who are having trouble. Just work with it. You'll get it sooner or later.................always a brother..........
Mark
USA - Wednesday, September 30, 2009 at 16:13:36 (MDT)
Guys, you have to register to be member and/or sign in. There's no charge. Just follow the prompts........best I can do.
Gale
USA - Wednesday, September 30, 2009 at 15:45:07 (MDT)
HI I cant eather there two dum B. here toif you find out let me know OK Art
Art
USA - Wednesday, September 30, 2009 at 14:50:28 (MDT)
I must be a real dum ass cause I cannot get to any of the pictures from Kokomo, I have tryed everything, I get to the 129th group but i don't know how to get to the pics. If someone would be kind enough to help me It would be greatly appreciated
Frank A Sutton
Greenwood, IN USA - Wednesday, September 30, 2009 at 12:45:00 (MDT)
Gale, you have done GOOD, thank you , the info. you so honorably gathered just blows me away, WOW, yes, I would like his no. and call him , you can e-mail at this address if you like, it wont be easy for me , I have to do it, After all Paul took my place that day , I m sure he would like for me to, and would do the same for me.,May God Bless , always a brother, Gary...
GARY MOUNT <phantom843@aol.com>
Lubbock , Tx USA - Tuesday, September 29, 2009 at 23:27:51 (MDT)
HI Flight went to the VA today ran into one of them doc he was playing with me so I giv him the run around for some time then he told me you just polling my string yes dont try to screw with me docI have your number you dont screw with me & I wont with you you dont want to piss me off or other NAM VET they will eat you up & spit you out & to say we are on the same track I am a dum grunt not like a crew chief he got it together.
Art
USA - Tuesday, September 29, 2009 at 17:35:03 (MDT)
http://www.ptsdsupport.net/stressor.html...I found this site and it sounds like you all are on the same page. Thanks a bunch for the input. Gary, Nolen's brother lives in Westville Illinois less than an hour from me and just a couple miles from a friend of mine. If I can contact him, I might stop by on the way back from the VA later in October. His name is Steve Nolen and I also have his phone number if you want it. He is actually buried at Rockfield Cemetery just SE of Veedersburg Indiana. His Mother is (buried next to him) deceased and his step dad is Herschel Berlin. He also has another brother in Minn and a step brother. I'll make a trip to the cemetery soon.........how am I doing so far pal???? heehee Always a brother, Gale
Gale
Clinton, In US of A - Tuesday, September 29, 2009 at 11:11:47 (MDT)
I have learned that most of the people in Va are former Military personel.How-ever not all have ever been in Combat and had their friends and relatives killed right before their eyes.Or Smell the burnt Flesh after someone was Blown-up into little pices.Most just do not know how to rate Veteran who have been thru the above.I believe what the Va says after they get down to the nitty gritty.Some DAV reps work reaLLY hard at helping the troops.But some are the type that think the va owes them something for nothing.When it happens,that is the time to believe it.
Jim <Dustoff>
Shiloh, IL USA - Tuesday, September 29, 2009 at 10:00:24 (MDT)
morning flight, gale , art hit the nail on the head. get a service org. to handle your case. the dav is goog the vfw, american legion, vva.they can walk you through the hold process. whatnyou can do now is call the regional office of the v.a. an just tell them you to file for ptsd. after making that request you will recieve paper work from the va requesting the reasons for filing a claim. at that point is when you go into detail.and as i said earlier get a service org. and they will help you from there. they will advise you of to put and not put into your request. gale just keep in mind that you problemly be turned down on your first request , thats normalat that point you put an appeal. but again you rep from your service org. will be right there to help. gale get back to seeing that doc you talk about. the doc is prime in winning youyr case. like we talk about , state going atlest a few times a month.wink 3/69-10/70
wink
lake wales , fl USA - Tuesday, September 29, 2009 at 08:27:45 (MDT)
Gale: Be to the point with detail to what your trying to say and keep it as short as possible. The VA glances at what info they have. I ended up going to the Patient advocate. You can get a c&p hearing faster. Than, waiting on appeals. After years of waiting and being denied. It took 3 weeks for a C&P hearing. Always A Brother!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Tuesday, September 29, 2009 at 08:09:48 (MDT)
HI every one Gale is your service officer work for the va or the state if they do you need to get the DAV to help you & the DAV told me to wright every thing down dont leav eany thing out. the DAV got me 70 % when I was going for 50% & in a little time I got my 100 % p&t & try to go in front of the bord & let the DAV talk for you& the detales make a better case& dont stop pushing your case & try to get some of the Brothers that were with you & I hate what the va is doing to the Brothers saying you cant get ptsd or other conect for & I say it you had now ware to go & a grunt could move to get out of the way fi it was just a few feet or less siting in that conner there was no place to go there was a lot of Brother that went home in a box. take care Art
Art
USA - Monday, September 28, 2009 at 20:27:34 (MDT)
Thanks everyone for your comments and support! I did get help. I am lucky that I have a doc who gives me meds that I could never afford. I am currently trying to find a counsler of some type that will take me at little to no cost. I forgot to mention in my other post that my mom lost her job of 26 years about 2-3 weeks ago. That has been hard to deal with.~~~~~~~~Gently, I sent an e-mail to you that I think might of gotten bumped to a junk mail folder. I was told by a few others that mine were getting bumped. Mark, I will try and post that tomorrow as I am about to go off to bed.~~~~ Thanks again :o)
Melody
USA - Monday, September 28, 2009 at 20:23:49 (MDT)
HI flight this is agood thing on geting what the Doc wright down & go & get a copy of all your records they got to give them to you I have them back to 82 every time they told me they cant find them & brake them down into it group like mentel helth & so on in folder & make a copy of them when you go to the VA take them with you &if they tell you they cant find them then tell them here what you want it will help I know because Glenda did that for me & it some time it T them off & I love it they think they got you over a barrow but you have them over one & the last thing is there eany you might need with a BIG SMILE on your FACE & the va just love to hasel with you A BROTHER Art.
Art
USA - Monday, September 28, 2009 at 17:21:21 (MDT)
Gale, my advice would bestate the facts, be precise and to the point and dont go into much detail as the v.a. seems to get confused with that, also be sure to keep copys as the v.a. has a bad habit of losing paperwork,anytime., anywhere my brothers, Tex 70-71..
Gary Mount
USA - Monday, September 28, 2009 at 14:21:32 (MDT)
gale;Call me at 815 343 6709 or email your number and i'll call you. have written a few and they are no big deal.
paul mcgrath
USA - Monday, September 28, 2009 at 12:57:31 (MDT)
Gale, words cannot express how I feel right now, THANK YOU.. WILL BE IN KOKOMO NEXT YEAR, AND CONTACT OTHERS,, God bless you ,Gary..
Gary Mount
USA - Monday, September 28, 2009 at 09:58:53 (MDT)
Mel...you can call me any time. 414-607-0527. L-Gently
Gently
USA - Monday, September 28, 2009 at 08:33:44 (MDT)
Ok to start making your reservations for next year's Kokokmo: Hampton Inn & Suites
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Gently
USA - Monday, September 28, 2009 at 08:27:11 (MDT)
Frank, go to this site and open an account to view the photos...http://groups.yahoo.com/group/129thahc/
Gale
USA - Monday, September 28, 2009 at 07:41:26 (MDT)
Mark, as you repeatedly state........."I didn't do anything." ;0) Flight, I'm in the process of filling out a "statement in support of claim" form for the VA. My service officer told me not to go into detail and to be brief. Any suggestions?
Gale
USA - Monday, September 28, 2009 at 07:36:51 (MDT)
I don't mean to sound dum but I don't know how to find the yahoo group web.
Frank A Sutton
Greenwood, IN USA - Monday, September 28, 2009 at 07:31:08 (MDT)
Gale, your zeal to help others is remarkable brother. God Bless you. Finding Paul's resting place for Gary is an honorable thing to do. Thanks for doing that. Can't sleep tonight. Don't know why. Just things, I guess. Wrote a song called THINGS way back. First verse goes like this........IF YOU CATCH ME IN A CORNER.......CRYIN' MY EYES OUT TODAY......JUST LEAVE ME ALONE........ I'LL BE OK.......JUST GOT SOME THINGS, ON MY MIND, I CAN'T SAY........BUT I KNOW, THAT THINGS, WILL BE BETTER SOMEDAY.......I love you all................always a brother.............
Mark
USA - Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 23:01:54 (MDT)
Gary Mount, I found him....Paul M Nolen. I haven't been to the cememtery yet,but, I know exactly where it's at. It's less than 2 hours from Kokomo,so, make plans for Kokomo next year and get Darwin Schmidt and anyone else to be there. After Kokomo, I'll take you(and anyone else that wants to go) to his gravesite and we'll have a nice memorial for him. His headstone has the 129th AHC on it.....................always a brother.
Gale
Clinton, In USA - Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 19:19:08 (MDT)
Joe, Mark took your table home with him.
Gale
USA - Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 12:34:45 (MDT)
Gaie:
Did you get the yellow table with a red cloth on it, there was a lot of things on it, we did not have a place to put things so we left it, besides we can use it for next year at Kokomo.
Kristy and I want to thank all of you for making this the best year we have had for a long time, and those that made it posable for us all to take our sweathart for a ride of a life time we will not for get it ever.
May the Lord biess you all and keep you all safe, and for those that have helth problems may he be with you and give you all comfort allso.
This year has been a hard but great one to. for those who have departed from us they are with our Heavenaly Father and are in good hands, one great thing we have to know we will all be togesther one day, I know that to be true.
Joe & Kristy
USA - Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 11:29:33 (MDT)
Flight, I forgot to mention that I picked up two matching lawn chairs (blue&white)that were left at our Kokomo site and unclaimed when we left Sunday morning. I have them and will bring them next year unless you are out my way. Gale
Gale
USA - Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 08:45:43 (MDT)
FRANK;pics are at the yahoo groups site at the addy in the post under yours.
paul mcgrath
USA - Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 08:24:59 (MDT)
Hey can anyone tell me where I can view Pictures of this year at Kokomo?
Frank A Sutton
Greenwood, IN USA - Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 07:57:29 (MDT)
Melody........you spoke of steps you took..............this is what I tell all................I have two steps, that lead into the back door of our cabin, if anybody , ever thinks that they are on their "last two steps in life" make it the two that lead to our door. We will set down and talk it out................tell you Doc about the depression There is nothing the matter with taking something for help.........and dp post that picture. Do you know how to put it on the 129th yahoo site? < http://groups.yahoo.com/group/129thahc/ >............... always a brother
Mark
USA - Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 21:14:39 (MDT)
Iam sorry Tom piazza I did'nt mean to leave you out I really am thankful you drove all the way up here for this reunion, But you know I always enjoy any time we get together and to have our Pals with us was out of this world and I am looking forward to our next get together.
Frank Sutton
Greenwood, IN. USA - Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 15:19:37 (MDT)
melody;Sorry to hear about your depression and having such a hard time with it. i will venture to say that about 3/4 of us here have been or are still going down the same road. i have the same feelings about self worth sometimes as i am only working part time now.mine was a combination of the economy,my physical health, and my mental health.i went from working 40 plus hours for 40 years to working 1 day a week.most of it was voluntary but i still felt bad about it. i am going to be training my replacement over the winter and i look at that as having the chance to pass along something to someone. after that is done i think i will start driving patients for our local va clinic. anyway you just have to find something good to do for yourself.we are all taught not to be selfish but there are times when you have to be to retain your own sanity. and that is perfectly alright.if you need to talk to someone my cell number is 815 343 6709. and by all means post that link to the pic and we'll see if we can identify it.no need to beat yourself up,what you are going thru sounds alot like what we go thru with ptsd. DON"T LET THE BEAST WIN
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 15:19:35 (MDT)
Hello to all and I just want to thank all of you that made my first trip to Kokomo so enjoyable, The food was great paul and I just can't say enough about the welcome Tom Piazza and I got, It was so good to see my old buds and to make new buds at this reunion, Thanks to Rick England,Bill French and Bill Wheland for one of the greatest times of my life, and to be able to fly with them again was the real high light thanks again to all of you in the 129th family.
Frank Sutton
Greenwood In., USA - Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 14:42:53 (MDT)
Wow, feels like its been a while since i've been here and I guess it has. I have been hiding away from alot of things. Most of you most likely remember the passing of my grandpa in May. With the exception of a few bright spots this year has...well just sucked. I took a trip to Canada in July, thats my biggest bright spot. Managed to almost forget my meds and almost lost my wallet for good...LOL After I got back I fell into a very deep and serious depression. It wasn't all because of my grandpa but it was a big part. I went from having to take care of him 24/7 to having nothing much to do. I still have my grandma to look after but she is still mentally clear and doing fairly well for an 83 year old. I felt like I lost my reason for being, that I was no good anymore to anyone. I way to close to taking that step but I am glad to say that I am on the mend. Taking steps to better my way of thinking. Enough of that. I recently found some pictures of my uncle's from Vietnam. Some showed part of an aircraft hanger of some kind that has text on it. Would anyone be willing to take a look if I post a link tomorrow?(the scanner is upstairs with the pics.) ~~~~~~ I hope all are doing well.
Melody P
Amarillo, TX USA - Friday, September 25, 2009 at 21:22:53 (MDT)
Wrong way Wes and Kathy:>)))))sure are glad you made it home with the way Kathy drives:>)Fly next year! Alex...will you send flowers from all of us and I'll reimburse you out of the Fund? How scary! We had no idea.... He's in our prayers. And Paul, didn't we talk about not doing the pies and your not driving up to six hours to deliver them? Dah! If we can't ship the pies let's forget them. The cookies on the other hand...Ez enough. Rickie head ...you made it home:>)) Any word from Frenchie head and Bill head??? Oh Jerry baby, it wasn't only the sisters doing the "Rating." I saw Wink, Mark, Joe and Ray on that line getting everyone in trouble:>)) Next year you and Wes are on it! Love to all-Gently
Gently
USA - Friday, September 25, 2009 at 12:57:49 (MDT)
I just got last nite. I want to thank everyone for a great time and the food was excellent.
Ron thanks for the topper the huey flight wow what a trip. Thanks again. Flight be careful out there
Rick England <`>
USA - Friday, September 25, 2009 at 09:12:38 (MDT)
wes gald to hear you two got home safe, and yes it showed on your face, but if you looked around we all had that same sh t eaten grin on our faces. i like jim had to travel throug atlanta to get home but unlike jim i took rt. 75 and drove through all that rain and did not know how lucky i was until i saw the reports on the news.==== alex send my prayes to dee an rainner.=== gale are you doing what we talk about friday night,i ope so it's important to you an to the rest of the 129thfamily.
well it time to get ready to do my thing hhhheeeeeeeeeee. golf what a life. wink 3/69-0/70
wink
lake wales, fl USA - Friday, September 25, 2009 at 08:30:58 (MDT)
Hi guys. This is wrong way Wes and Kathy. Made it home Wednesday evening about 8PM after stopping in Boise to visit with Kathy's brother. Am still overwhelmed. I have never in my life felt so lucky as to be associated with all of you. The depth of feeling from everyones hearts that we experienced from all of you will be with us for the rest of our lives. Many thanks for allowing us to be participants. Plans are being made for next year. I will definetly be leaning on the guys that I am in contact with to consider attending. Louisville 2001 was OK but this was so much more intimate. Am kind of wondering if the feel good glow shows on the outside of me too. Paul, e-mail = griff90880@msn.com.
Wes Griffith <griff90880@msn.com>
Clatskanie, OR USA - Friday, September 25, 2009 at 07:51:57 (MDT)
Goodmorning 129th Family. I see Kokomo has everyone still on an high. It, was a great mini reunion. But, I had to keep a secret about a very close 129th Brother of mine. I had alot on my mind during Kokomo and Liz and I had a great time. Some of you may already have known that Rainer had a aneurysm. And, his Doctor told himamily. I see Kokomo has everyone still on an high. It, was a great mini reunion. But, I had to keep a secret about a very close 129th Brother of mine. I had alot on my mind during Kokomo and Liz and I had a great time. Some of you may already have known that Rainer had a aneurysm. And, his Doctor told him it's now and not later for surgery. I forget the odds that Rainer told me. But, he schedlued after Kokomo. On tuesday, several teams of special medical staff preformed a 15 hour surgery on this risky operation. But, Dee called last night to let us know, that operation was a sucess. Rainer will be in the ICU for at least another 10 days. My prayers were answered when I recieved Dee's call. You see Rainer and me go back 44 years this Nov. as we became part of the 129th. I will keep the 129th Family posted. I was worried about the Huey ride Saturday Morning. But, Rainer wasnt going to miss flying with his 129th Brothers and Sisters. Keep him in your thoughts and Prayer. Always A Brother!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Friday, September 25, 2009 at 07:35:55 (MDT)
there will be no overhead on this so every penny you bid will go to the christmas fund.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, USA - Thursday, September 24, 2009 at 17:53:50 (MDT)
OK. here's the deal would there be any interest in cookies and pies on the auction. i'm thinking 5-6 doz cookies shipped to you in time for christmas, you choice of flavors.now pies are a little harder as they are pretty hard to ship. so here is what i propose i will drive 6 hours one way to deliver, if you live further than 6 hours it is your responsibility to meet me at the 6 hour point from my house(La Salle il. 61301)for this lot it will be 2 pies your choice of flavors.also to be delivered before christmas. we may have to close this auction on dec 1 to accomodate delivery. if there is enough interest we may be able to make it 2(5-6 doz) lots of cookies and 2 lots of 2 pies per lot.you guys always rave about the pies and cookies, its time to buck up paul and ida
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Thursday, September 24, 2009 at 16:29:41 (MDT)
Boobs?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
G
USA - Thursday, September 24, 2009 at 16:25:30 (MDT)
STAY TUNED FOR A GASTRINOMIC NEWS FLASH ABOUT ITEMS BEING OFFERED FOR THIS YEARS AUCTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they are round and taste good.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, USA - Thursday, September 24, 2009 at 15:09:47 (MDT)
Too bad the peanut butter cookies weren't that good....bummer. And to think I found some in my purse at the airport! Sticks, you need to record some of that mellow flute you play...could lull a perosn to sleep so nicely. L-Gently
Gently
USA - Thursday, September 24, 2009 at 14:51:26 (MDT)
Ken; don't forget to vote for oatmeal raisin when i ask for votes.
paul mcgrath
USA - Thursday, September 24, 2009 at 12:56:35 (MDT)
Gale; looks like Darrel and i may come out on wednesday next year and our wives will come out on friday.
paul mcgrath
USA - Thursday, September 24, 2009 at 12:12:56 (MDT)
Just had another pork chop, grilled left over brots yesterday and Gale, glad to hear the gator was good. Yes we need better planning but sounds like we are using up the leftovers. Paul I was happy because I love Oatmeal Rasin Cookies and may have made a pig out of myself on them. It got me throught the flight on Saturday and saved me when I got back till I found the ham and everything our ADA guys brought over. Also my stepson finished off the last of the jello shots on the way home. I was afraid the guy from the 128th AHC may have over did them but again glad they did not go to waste. All in all I think the plus side is no one should have gone hungry which has worked out each year.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Thursday, September 24, 2009 at 11:55:15 (MDT)
Paul, you done real good buddy and we appreciate it. Next year we need to "fly in formation" and just coordinate things a little better. I plan on Friday for my breakfast and supper, but, if anyone wants in on it, just let me know so we can coordinate it. We really do appreciate that everyone wants to contribute. What a bunch!!! I'm still on an emotional high and I'm sure that Kal is still on his "physical" high.....whooopee!!
Gale
USA - Thursday, September 24, 2009 at 11:54:21 (MDT)
Stickman checking in, I made it home a visiting my sister in Ohio. Good thing I did and went tru West Virginia and down I77 or I would have gotten stranded in Atlanta. What a wonderful reunion. As Gale said make the phone calls, I did and got to spend the weekend with a friend that I had not seen in 35 years, all thanks to a phone# that Gail looked up for me. I am glad the gator was cooked and enjoyed, that's payment enough, sorry I not a cook Gently. Still trying to take it all in, will post more later. Guess I'll go play with my stick. It was so wonderful to meet all the new brothers and sisters, hope to see everyone in hot lanta. Stickman is outta here
Jim "Stickman" Oliver
Pembroke, Ga USA - Thursday, September 24, 2009 at 11:52:05 (MDT)
Well guys and girls i'm looking at the menu for next year. i'm thinking about a honey glazed ham and an orange glazed ham, baked sweet potatoes, glazed baby carrots, corn on the cob(it's free). anybody got any suggestions. also looking for constructive critisims on the menu from this year(besides less of it). comments will be appreciated.i learned that pork chops take a lot of time that is why i'm thinking hams for next year, and if i do squash or onions i will wrap in foil to make them more appealing to the eye.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Thursday, September 24, 2009 at 11:08:33 (MDT)
Sorry flight, the "gator tail" has been eaten....and I might add, some of the best tail that I've ever had (gator that is!)heheehe. Like I said, it had to be cooked, so, my buddies & I did the honors yesterday. We dipped them in egg, then cornmeal and deep fried them.....then washed them down with a brewskie......ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh so good! Stickman, I'm sorry that we didn't get to them,but, they sure didn't go to waste! Next year we need a little more planning on the menu, so, we can it all cooked. It was still frozen on Friday and then we just couldn't get to it on Saturday with all the excitement and pork chops and ceremonies. Jim,I can send you some money for them if you let me know how much...or, I'll make it up to you in Atlanta!! You make the call.......Gale
Gale 67-68
Clinton, In US of A - Thursday, September 24, 2009 at 10:27:24 (MDT)
To all you FNG's and new friends who showed up at Kokomo....Welcome to your new family! See you next year! It wouldn't have been the best without. Love-Gently
Gently
USA - Thursday, September 24, 2009 at 08:44:55 (MDT)
Thanks to all who showed up at LZ Kokomo 2009! What a wonderful bunch of family members we have. I accept some thanks for helping, but, to tell you the truth.................it's very "self serving" on my part. It was great to meet all the fng's that showed and to see the looks in their eyes as the weekend progressed. God willing, there will be more fng's next year along with the ones that were there this year. There are so many more that we need to reach out to,so, do a little searching, make
a phone call.....it might make a difference in someones life. See you in Atlanta.....always a brother. Gale
Gale
USA - Thursday, September 24, 2009 at 07:27:25 (MDT)
As one of the FNG’s this year I want to thank Mark, Gale, Ken, Gently and anyone else involved for their diligence in keeping the site at Kokomo for us to find and join our 129th family again. The 129th was special to all of us in Nam and meeting each of you at Kokomo this year brought home the fact that we are still and always will be family. The camaraderie, the laughs, the excitement, the joy of being together with our brothers in arms from all branches of the service was truly special. Ron, the welcome home had so much meaning to us. My thanks to you and please pass on to all that made it possible how much we appreciated it. More than words can describe. The same applies to the wonderful people from American Huey. Their willingness to take the time to give us a Huey ride and the way they did it along with coming back to join us that evening also meant more that I can describe with mere words. The joy of seeing Kal fly left seat again and being there to enjoy it with him was another truly memorable experience. To Gently and our 129th sisters my sides still hurt from laughing so much as you rated the guys going by. My thanks to all of you that came to Kokomo this year, you made it a wonderful experience that I will cherish and I hope to see you at future reunions.
Always a brother,
Jerry 71-72
Pa USA - Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 15:27:26 (MDT)
Hey guys, just wanted to say "Thank You" for welcoming us into your cap site. It really made us feel good and like we had known you all of our lives. I was really touched by the medal that Ron gave me and I will cherish it always. We came as guests with Paul and Ida Brown and are greatful to them for getting us there.
Oh, we will be back next year too!
Thanks again. Darrell and Nancy Cochran
Darrell
Ottawa, IL USA - Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 14:57:10 (MDT)
Still flying high from Kokomo and Our Huey flights from Ron Paye and his group. Glad to have Kal in that seat once more. Will get more time off next year. Reminds of the BQ contest we down here. Everyone gets a lot to set up. Was a hell of a good time in corn field. For those whom miss getting to Kokomo, there will be next year. When. the 129th family has a get together you always have a great time. Thanks to Gale and all whom set up and Ron & Gently for there planning for a great outing. Alot, of 19 year olds after the Huey flights. Always A Brother!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 08:43:02 (MDT)
Thanks Fred got you pictures and have checked out the others on the Yahoos site. The photos are great they just radiate the pleasure everyone was having flying in and being around a Huey. I'll will post some pictures of Buzz on the yahoo site for you.
Take care. Simon
Simon Johnson <simon_johnson@talktalk.net>
Mellor, 509 County UK - Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 03:12:00 (MDT)
Sorry for leaving names off of the Kokomo roster...............
Mark
USA - Tuesday, September 22, 2009 at 19:20:55 (MDT)
Simon, that pretty cool haveing Buzz Aldrin aboard the 509, much less meeting him. Astronaughts are just not that common,lol. Simon, you and Phil get those few pics I sent your way?
alvis
USA - Tuesday, September 22, 2009 at 17:24:27 (MDT)
WOW, DIGGING AROUND MY DESK, HAVE FOUND 6 MORE TIGER PATCHES. CONTACT ME IF ONE IS NEEDED.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, September 22, 2009 at 17:22:03 (MDT)
watch it Paul, their trying to cut Ida from the herd...betcha its some pilot trying to get close to her.I bet gently and Gale didnt write that. jeeeze, cant trust pilots around womems,lol.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, September 22, 2009 at 15:07:04 (MDT)
Yep, too bad about Ida............................
Gale
USA - Tuesday, September 22, 2009 at 14:47:53 (MDT)
Yup, too bad about Ida. l-Gently
Gently
USA - Tuesday, September 22, 2009 at 14:12:03 (MDT)
Yeah too bad about ida huh
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Tuesday, September 22, 2009 at 13:59:05 (MDT)
If you bring it to Kokomo...you cook it at Kokomo. Ask for volunteers to help....but it's your responsibility. People will help..just ask. A turkey sounds good for next year Paul..it will give you time to hang with us while it slowly cooks all day. To bad about Ida though...she will still have to make cookies and pies:>))L-G
gently
USA - Tuesday, September 22, 2009 at 13:29:43 (MDT)
all i can say is wow!you know that i'll be there next year. wink 3/69-10/70
wink
lake WALES, fl USA - Tuesday, September 22, 2009 at 11:30:57 (MDT)
next year i will cut back on the food some as i did have too much meat and corn. should we cut back on cookies and pies also??????? ida says you are her new family and she will be coming again next year. gale gled somebody got that gator tail, stickman wanted me to cook it but i just didn't have time. i appologize for that , guess i should have started earlier.i'm gonna buy a turkey fryer for next year. also gonna look at getting a full size grill and making the legs removable for easy transport.what would really be cool is a covered cargo trailer set up with a kitchen inside and 129th colors on the outside. well i guess i've said enough for now. OH, almost forgot, I LOVE YOU GUYS.take that to the bank.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Tuesday, September 22, 2009 at 11:30:56 (MDT)
I guess that so many made it because the other reuion was in Reno, still so very glad that we had so many show up. I will remain hopeful about next year and still try to get our sites lined up. We really only used two of the five sites for camping so could have made room for more there. We mostly had a parking lot which if we directed traffic better could have held three deep. I know I was asked about more spaces but we can work on that the beginning of the year. I am glad everyone that made it had a good time as I always hope we can get more people to come.
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Tuesday, September 22, 2009 at 10:35:10 (MDT)
What a wonderful weekend! I'm still high. So many things laughs....so many new people....and all coming back next year! But.....why didn't Sticks cook his gator meat??? Frenchie..you looked great and we're going to keep you in our prayers! Pete Rhome.....so good to see you after over 4 years! And to match email names to all the new faces...how cool is that! New girls: Gail, Janice(Where in the hell did you go?), Ida, Kathy and Christie, Liz, Dee(second time)...we hope you felt at home. I enjoyed each and every one of you! Guys, it's always special for me to spend time with you. Too bad Kal can't hear any more..he gave me a #129 headache screaming at him all weekend. Kal..get those hearing aides! You "heads"....he he. The food.........out of this world! Paul and Ida...you over did it. We love you. We broke out even for the cost of the Huey Rides but now the Christmas Fund is nearly tapped out. Email me if you want to make a donation(Gentlyjs@yahoo.com) and I'll send you my address(or maybe I'll send you Kathy's phone number...right Wes:>)) I'm getting to Kokomo earlier next year...like on Thursday: Two nights and two days is just not enough. In a couple of weeks I'll post the hotel info for next year..get your rooms then so we can try to all stay at the same place and cut down on parking spaces behind the site. Fred has posted many wonderful photos on the Yahoo group site, so make sure you go there. Lots of them from the Huey ride:>))Ron.....thanks for the Huey ride. You're all 10's in my book. Love-Gently
gently
USA - Tuesday, September 22, 2009 at 10:15:30 (MDT)
Alvis, yes I did. Iffen I knew you were gonna be there Sunday morn, I would've waited. I wasn't gonna leave it & it needs cooked pretty quick. Sorry man!
Gale
USA - Tuesday, September 22, 2009 at 10:01:47 (MDT)
Gale, did you get all the gatortail? looked for it sunday morn, but was way to late. oh dwell,lol.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, September 22, 2009 at 09:16:33 (MDT)
There was also Dan that was with Stickman. Did you all sign the roster sheet?
Gale
USA - Tuesday, September 22, 2009 at 07:34:23 (MDT)
Jim, guess we made less than a lasting impression.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, September 22, 2009 at 06:12:39 (MDT)
so were Fred and Susan Alvis
alvis
USA - Tuesday, September 22, 2009 at 06:10:43 (MDT)
Mark, Jim and Jim were also there.
Jim <Dustoff.net>
Shiloh, IL USA - Monday, September 21, 2009 at 22:04:24 (MDT)
My Kokomo photos are on the 129th Yahoo site also now.........
Mark
USA - Monday, September 21, 2009 at 21:09:54 (MDT)
Hey Flight,
Janice and I have arrived safely back at home. Our prayers are for those that maybe still traveling and we hope they reach their homes safely also.
Larry Stokes <rudedog.20067@yahoo.com>
Kinston, NC USA - Monday, September 21, 2009 at 18:59:16 (MDT)
LZ KOKOMO 2009 129TH ROSTER...........Gale Beard.......Dennis Wilson ( Gale's Brother-in-law)............Joe Godsey( Ken Strong's stepson ).........Mark Jackson..........Ken Strong.........Jim "Stickman" Oliver.........Rick England............Wes & Kathy Griffith......Alex & Liz Fernwalt.....Rainer & Dee Bauer.........Joe & Kristy Nicolich.........William "Bill" Frenchie" French...........Tommy Joe Piazza..........Bill Whelan......Barry Winkler........Ray and Gail Gagner.........Jerry Heckathorn..........Kal Bergstrom........Judith " Gently" Singer.........Larry and "Bad Girl" ;-) Janis Stokes........ Frank Sutton.......Lee K. Wood.......Paul and Ida Brown......Paul Boggs.........Pete Rhome.......32 in all.......I believe the largest 129th gathering of all time.............always a brother.........
Mark
USA - Monday, September 21, 2009 at 18:44:53 (MDT)
Thousands leave town as reunion ends
By DANIEL HUMAN
Tribune staff writer
Tommy Niesen stood inside the conference room at the Vietnam Veterans Campground Sunday, looking at the mess outside the door.
“I don’t like clean-up,” he said. “Everybody gets up and goes home. It’s sad. I don’t get to see my brothers for another year.”
Niesen, known as “New Shoes” by his “brothers,” was a U.S. Army specialist 4th class during the Vietnam War.
After returning from the east, Niesen never really settled down, he said, never really finding a home.
“This is what I call home,” he said, standing in the heart of the campground. “These guys found me on the street. I’ve been living all over. I was coming out of the veterans hospital, and they found me and brought me here.”
It has been six years since Niesen discovered the reunion, which drew in thousands of Vietnam veterans from around the U.S. this weekend.
Although the reunion lasted just three days, Niesen spent the past six months living in a recreational vehicle at the campground, helping get ready.
As the event concluded Sunday, Niesen did not know where he planned to go next. Maybe back to a cabin he had in Kentucky, he said, or maybe somewhere else. The only thing he was certain of was that he would be back for his seventh year in 2010.
Droves of vehicles and RVs pulled out of the campground Sunday as the event finished its 27th year.
Jim McKinney, the reunion’s vice president, said all of the campground’s 981 camp sites and the 40 overflow sites were booked for the weekend.
And the 875 hotel rooms in Howard County sold out for the weekend.
Speakers, musical performances and patriotic ceremonies were a sampling from the reunion’s schedule.
The events wrapped up Sunday with a non-denominational Christian prayer service in the morning.
The Rev. John Steer led the service alongside his wife, Donna, and Dennis Chapman.
Throughout his service, Steer intermingled worship with expressions of gratitude that a place such as the Veterans Campground existed.
“After all the years and all the places y’all have been because of all your hard work ... [here in] Kokomo, we have our own place,” Steer said during the service. “... I’ve had a lot of tears here. I’ve met more than one person under the flag to pray with them.”
Steer, a former paratrooper with the 173rd Airborne Infantry during Vietnam, is no stranger to post-war stresses and the recovery process.
He fought in The Slope in June 1967, and Hill 875 in November 1967. During those two battles, he saw hundreds of men die, and at the latter, he lost his right arm.
When he returned to the U.S., he received two Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star and a Silver Star, but it was not enough to heal his pain.
“I was a drunk for about five years after I got back,” he said Sunday, as he stood near the campground’s stage, sipping from a water bottle he held with the prosthetic hook that replaced his right arm.
After finding religion about 30 years ago, Steer has spent most of his time traveling from his home in Arkansas around the U.S. as an evangelist. He said he mostly visits veteran-oriented functions, such as this weekend’s reunion.
Gale
USA - Monday, September 21, 2009 at 15:48:51 (MDT)
copy & paste...
http://static.cnhi.zope.net/flashpromo/kokomotribune/flashpromo/slideshow09/VetReunion2009/index.html
Gale
USA - Monday, September 21, 2009 at 15:46:02 (MDT)
HI Donny you tell it like it is you named some of whot I have & the rest of Nam VET got& there kids have got I cant have kids & glad I dont but me & Glenda adop one & Glenda coud not have eany I got my little girl & she had a boy so I so happy with Josh I call him my parnter love him so much it help when he with me night is bad for me & I tell you GUY tell her every time you see her you love her & how pretty she is becausr there be one dayyou wont be with you that bed is a loney place at night to be by your self nam talt me how to berry your thorts & I good at it real good had a lot of time I had to do it
Art
USA - Monday, September 21, 2009 at 15:05:12 (MDT)
SMITTY, dont know the answer.kokomo is 1& 1/2 hours away from the driveway. Personally, i like it better, but thats just me, its simply like a campout.pretty low key. I doubt if it will take 'the place' for reunions. lol, its kinda difficult for the ladies to rate folks walking by in the lobby.speaking of which, our ladies caused TWO, yes TWO, accidents. they distracted so many caue they were laughing or looking so hard,some guys pulling uip their shirts,flashing the gals,toget a better rating.one was a rear end collision and the other was someone backing up on foot, into a golf cart that happened to be passing by (very slowly). It (darn keyboard let me make that a capital..whoa) is a good thing for fngs to turn up at Kokomo, as someone has already stated. we have a welcome home ceramony ( Ron Paye's idea to start with and a damn good one it is)for the guys first apperance at Kokomo.they can tell, better than I,what that means to them.
alvis
USA - Monday, September 21, 2009 at 14:42:29 (MDT)
got real confused with my renal (kidney functions messed up) still trying to turn it around. With the hopes of not pissing anyone off, Has kokomo turned into our reuninion??? After Linda retires this year, we plan on trying for next year. My prob is i really cant do both ( Vhcma & kokomo) I know a lot of you guys live around Kokomo so its easier>>>> Love & respects>>>>>> Smitty
jim westwang 71 72
sheridan, wy, wy USA - Monday, September 21, 2009 at 13:21:57 (MDT)
Will be signing off for awhile, have to get back to work, clear right , THE PHANTOM 70-71
Gary Mount
USA - Monday, September 21, 2009 at 12:01:32 (MDT)
That last post was a Back to KEN in Lafayette, DUH, brain damage kick'n in again. Thanks for the reaffirmations Gary, make sure that Kenny gets my mis-directed post please.
Donny
USA - Monday, September 21, 2009 at 10:54:29 (MDT)
Back to Gary, There is a multitude of dioxin specific, myro-nurological peripheral compromising disorders associated only to Nam vets and as I stated clearly, ALL are chronic, progressive and degenerative. They all are for the most part, non reversible and many have a fatal prognosis. An EMG doesn't lie and because so little pathology and etiology of all theses mysterious "little ailments" are actually published or documented due to fear of compensatory liable, you get the old pat on the back and ain't getting old a bitch band-aid and dust off. I fall down, ALL! the time now and hell Gary, less then 5 years ago, I was flying full covert combat sorties in the middle East in my brand new 78 million dollar F-15e Strike Eagle. Uncle Sam is just not in the habit of handing out the keys for such toys to gimps. It hit me fast. Personally, and only because of my education, I am able to talk the talk and make my case and educated most of my physicians to some level of compromise. However no one living in pain should be sent out the door with just the ageing gracefully BS that has an abnormal EMG. However, be careful what you wish for. When it come to procedures and medications, you DON'T get something for noth'in. You are already compromised by the AO. Keep this all first and forward in your head and decision process
If I were you, I would assume that the damage is permanent and may or may not continue to worsen. Make an honest pain assessment, 1 to 10. Then make a list of daily activities that the existing neuropathy and existing level of pain effect and to what degree your quality of life is compromised. Re-challenge the EMG and step up to the plate and be assertive. Remember, a doctor works for YOU!! Demand relief. For the exact same symptoms you have, I use Tramadol as needed for pain and a Neurotin regime and tho not pain free, I am 95% better. Refuse any opiate based analgesic. Just trust me in this one. Hope this helps and thanks for sharing. Again hold dear and tight to the fact that you are alive and are a part of something so very special and a member in good standing of thousands of forgotten heroes that still have your back 24/7. Get on with living your life, not just surviving it Gary or it was all for nothing. Own it. Talk to me anytime. BTW, loaded up the boat and Cheyenne this morning, really got into the perch big-time for 20 minutes and the sky just opened up. Shit happens but got enough for dinner.
Donny
USA - Monday, September 21, 2009 at 10:47:53 (MDT)
WOW!!! Where to start.. I think first off.. Smitty, I am sorry to read about the problems that are poping up on you and hope they get them all solved and get you back to enjoying life!! You were missed!!.. Art the same goes for you !!.. Now, I want to express my thanks to all of you that were at Kokomo and made my weekend one of the best I have ever had!. Never in my dreams have I dared to think that a weekend like that would happen and BINGO, it did. To be in the front seat and flying a Huey again after so many years was fantastic!!!!.. I want to send special thanks to Gale, Ken, Mark, Kathy, Paul, Ida and any others that put in so much time and work to make this one, if not the greatest, get-together ever!!.. It was great seeing and meeting all the FNGs that were there and seeing their amazement at what our 129th familey is really all about. I say again that if you haven't attended one of our gatherings, that it is "worth the trip" and, as many of us have found, a life changing experience. I say again thanks to all for making my weekend so very special!! I hope to see you all again in Atlanta next June for the VHCMA reunion!!!. With Love and Brotherhood, C U L8r.. Kal...>>>
Kal Bergstrom <n8auu (at) email dot com>
Saint Joseph, MI USA - Monday, September 21, 2009 at 09:45:59 (MDT)
Mark, I forgot to give and get phone number, just like the table Owell... old age cheping up with me. Here is mine 217 453-2533 and cell 208 921-9599 Have a great week 129th Brothers & Sisters Joe & Kristy clear on the right.
Joe and Kristy
USA - Monday, September 21, 2009 at 09:43:44 (MDT)
Wow! What a great time you guys have had. Great that you have one again flown with YOUR pilots. Good to talk and drink a toast to you all on Saturday night. Phil and Neil delivered Buzz Aldrin from Goodwood House the Goodwood revival event yesterday (Sunday) 20th in 509. If you will pardon the pun what a great buzz to meet the man in person and shake his hand. What a privelige and honour. So guys one of your old birds took centre stage. Many hundreds, nay, thousands came to look at 509 and went away knowing much about about the machine and the men who flew in Hueys and in particular the 129th. So that burning sensation in the ears wasn't you sitting too close the fire but us talking about. Better get back to work, stay safe from all the 509 crew. Simon.
Simon Johnson <simon_johnson@talktalk.net>
Mellor, 509 County UK - Monday, September 21, 2009 at 08:55:27 (MDT)
Read and reread your post, Donny, my old v.a. counselor, said the same thing, its all gravy,you survived, its great to read these posts, makes me feelgood . we just have to go on and do the best we can and keep having reunions,and communicate with one another our thoughts , it helps, at least we understand each other, someday well be at peace and be with the Good Lord, until then we will all suffer in someway have good and bad daysbut it helps that we understandeach other, May GOD bless you all , TEX..
GARY MOUNT
USA - Monday, September 21, 2009 at 08:33:21 (MDT)
Back to Donny.. I had asked my doctor at the VA about so many of us with nerve problems which they can not explain. Answear was not that it could be anything to do with Agent Orange but could be a thousand other things. My nerves are all doing things that don't make sense. I have had problems with temp blurred vision for twenty years or so. The VA gave me eye drops for that. Guess I would just like an answer because I am not making this stuff up but the doctors act like I don't know what I am talking about. One example is that for the past sevral years & before I had any pain in my legs I would just fall when there was no feeling or control in my leg. It only happens every few weeks and sometimes months but the doctors just write it doesn't happen when I am at the office. I wish I knew why so I could have it happen on command but makes me mad when they act like it is not a problem. Now that the EMGs show a problem in my leg and should/arm it is still just no big deal. Wish they could deal with the pain for a day or two before they say that. Thanks for the info, just wish the doctors read it.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Monday, September 21, 2009 at 08:28:40 (MDT)
for those wanting to contact the folks ,or just want to check outthe website,of the folks that gave us the rides on the slick at the Kokomo reunion......
http://www.americanhuey369.com/
alvis
USA - Monday, September 21, 2009 at 07:52:30 (MDT)
i have sent picss to those I have addys for, who are in at leat one of the ics..somewhere,even if in deep background. i have many more, but e-mails keep geeting bounced or have lost the addy for.please relay pics to those who arent on addy list . thank you,i and recepient will appericate it.
alvis
USA - Monday, September 21, 2009 at 07:46:54 (MDT)
I was glad to see you other guys stop in from the 498th and in a few years hope you all can have as many find each other. I know it helps to have your banner there this year so people can find it. Besides the ones from the 129th I was very happy to see how many others came in to check out everything Mark brought and to have pictures taken in front of our site. We know we are a group when so many just stop to talk to us and tell us we have a great place to check out. Our ladies were a hit too as the rating of all the guys walking by will for sure be talked about for years. You guys all ROCK!
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Monday, September 21, 2009 at 07:27:20 (MDT)
Thank-you Alvis for the response and confirmation of old grass-roots open arm hospitality. I was not made aware of or invited to this reunion until Sat 1630 so I guess I missed role call. It's a wonderful feeling and great relief to know there is a place and an organization of men and women who managed to survive that insanity and return home to pick up some sense of normalcy and the American dream. I have 7 long years and 1,367 sorties, in country alone invested in that "conflict"; Like I said, it just breaks my heart with joy to read so many enthusiastic posts of brothers living a life that no longer hurts but who can and DO take advantage of everything every one of you laid it all on the line for. Damn, you made my day. You all down there definatly have the right stuff going down and I sure could use some. If you would, could you advise me of the next reunion or get together? I also got a huge charge and long over due belly laugh out of the many accounts of the Huey maneuvers. That gal on the horse probably never heard of air-mobile. To be totally honest with ya Alvis, this old super-sonic fixed winger has some serious! issues and fears with you-all that subscribe to the "Jesus Nut" theory and seeing is believing but I just still can't understand the physics of it all or the Bumble-Bee. Those machines just shouldn't be able to fly. Lastly, the Agent Orange debate? Is it real? Bet on it. The clinical "label" for this non-existent disorder is Chronic Progressive Degenerative Dioxin Syndrome and it has been documented in hundreds of double blinded studies since 1967 by top medical research facilities through out the world, confirming conclusively, that dioxin deployment was a greater and more costly and fatal "misjudgment" then the entirety of our involvement in S.E. Asia. Humm? The problem? 50K Nam vets actually took the whopping $1,000 class-action settlement from Dow in 1985 that opened the loop hole that is provided by the June 9, 2003 deadlocked Supreme Court vote resulted in the automatic affirmation of the lower court’s ruling, which had been the New York based U.S. Court of Appeal for the 2nd Circuit. This “loophole” will allow representation for those Vietnam veterans that were unrightfully left out of the Agent Orange settlement, and the court also ordered the 2nd Circuit to reconsider the claim of Joe Isaacson. HOWEVER, affirmation appeals take hold no presiding priority and the 9th's dockets are over-flowing until 2026. Catch 22. Here is just a small sample of what 100% been discovered to result from, all formulas of the dioxin based defoliants deployed in South East Asia manufactured by Dow, Monsanto, Diamond Shamrock Corporation, Hercules Inc., Uniroyal inc., T-H Agricultural & Nutrition Company, and Thompson Chemical Corporation. As of today, the VA recognizes, chronic lymphocytic leukemia prostate cancer, respiratory cancers, multiple myeloma, type II diabetes, Hodgkin’s disease, non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma, soft tissue sarcoma, chloracne, porphyria cutanea tarda, peripheral neuropathy, and spinal bifidia in children of veterans exposed to Agent Orange as side effects of the herbicide. Also, Vietnam Vets that exhibit chronic coexisting Agent Orange symptoms of this next list shall be considered to recieve free and appropriate treatment per post due-process decree. 1. Gastrointestinal:
loss of appetite (anorexia)
nausea
vomiting
diarrhea
constipation
yellowing of eyes, skin, and urine (Jaundice)
liver inflammation (Hepatitis)
vomiting blood (Hematemesis)
abdominal pain
gastric hyperplasia
gastric ulcers
2. Genitourinary:
stones
burning
bloody urine (Hermaturia)
dribbling
brown urine
bladder discomfort
kidney pain
3. Neurological:
tingling
numbness
dizziness
headaches
twitching, fidgeting, etc. (Automatic dyscontrol)
Suspension of breath (sleep apnea)
in coordination
unnaturally
drowsy (Hypersomnolence)
loss of sensation in extremities
4. Psychiatric:
violent
irritable
angry
severe depression
suicide
frenzied (Manic)
tremulous
memory loss
loss of concentration
severe personality changes
5. Metabolic:
fatigue
rapid weight loss
spontaneous fever
chills
6. Cardiovascular:
elevated blood pressure
blood deficiency
7. Skin:
chloracne
rash
increased sensitivity (heat)
increased sensitivity (sun)
altered skin color
loss of hair
brittle nails
8. Cancer:
tumors
liver
lung
testicular
ear duct
9. Family:
miscarriages child's deaths---birth defects
a. cleft palates b. open eye
c. kidney abnormalities d. enlarged liver
e. enlarged head f. club foot
g. intestinal hemmorage h. missing or abnormal fingers, toes
i. missing or abnormal reproductive organs
j. missing, abnormal, or displaced body parts
10.Endocrine:
enlarged male mammary glands (Gynecomastia)
excessive milk flow from nipples (Galactorrhea)
decreased sexual drive
difficulty maintaining and erection
11. Visual:
blurring
burning
12. Hearing Loss
13.Respiratory:
difficulty or painful breath (Dyspenea)
shortness of breath
This is the bottom line. A class action settlement and order of decree to the VA is not likely to see even a lower court until most of us are long dead and gone. Our Kids? may be some hope. As an individual and the existing climate of today's legal profession, none want to wait 25 years for a hearing and their share of your money. To boot, 99.9% of all AO representation is just unavailable. Money talks and BS walks. Some things just never change. Yes, I have done my homework these past 6 years as I progressivly go down the shitter, Just so you understand that I am not just spouting bitter BS; I DO posses a full DVM veterinary degree from Purdue University and am board certified. Trust me, medicine is medicine and our dear critters and furball companions, are not at all that much different then us in this respect. That stated; I have, in total absence of bias, researched over 200 studies and found all to be absolutely conclusive to the conclusions listed above. What now? Do what you have always done so well, take it. Keep up what you are doing down there in Kokomo and for you all that are also having to deal with this rehabilitating, non-existent phenomena, keep in mind that everyday back home from then to now is just pure gravy, so live it like it's your last. Also, be very aware that there are MANY good, highly funded folks fully invested on our behalf and in our best interest. And really, what should any brother expect? We all were then and still are now, so very much "expendable" within the guise of Plausible Deniability and didn't turn a dime for the fat cats. But what we do have can not be bought at any price but only earned. I'm talking about that unique bond that can on come from those who placed their lives that guy next to you or in my case, my wing-man. Hey, it's nearing 0800, enough preaching and I'm go' in fishing. Thanks again Alvis for your ear and unconditional acceptance and welcome.
Donny
USA - Monday, September 21, 2009 at 07:25:16 (MDT)
Hey guys, would just like to thank all of you for the hospitality that was shown to us 498th guys at Kokomo. It was my first visit to the Kokomo reunion, and I'll be back. Hope to get more from the 498th there, as I was amazed at all the participation from all the different units. It was like one big happy family. Once agin, thanks.
Donald "Bones" Jones CE 498th Dustoff 3/69-2/71 A/C "Blood,Sweat,&Tears"
Donald "Bones" Jones <sledjones@wilkshire.net>
Strasburg, OH USA - Monday, September 21, 2009 at 05:25:06 (MDT)
hey guys, pleae dont forget to drop a line to the folks that support us/you with the gift of the patches. To the ones that need/want one..I am out,my supply is gone,including the ones for myself,lol. Just got carried away with the smiles from you guys. For the 129th patches,our friends at http://www.huey.co.uk/.....for the tiger(rok) patches,our friends at http://cafe3.ktdom.com/vietvet/us/us.htm...remember,these folks did this out of their pocket,at no cost to us,because they are friends...they expect nothing in return, but a thank you makes them feel almost as good as you felt when recieving a patch you thought would never happen again...thanks guys.
alvis
USA - Monday, September 21, 2009 at 05:11:49 (MDT)
Hi flight:
Kristy and I got home at 2:30 this morning, what a great time we had, Kristy stol cant beleave she had her first ride in a huey, now she knows firat hand what we did for a living. I want to thank all of you for making Kristy feal a part of the family, she loves all of you and I also.
I dont think that we can expreas our thanks to thost fooks how give up there time to give us the thanks we never had, this will stay in our harts for ever.
Mark you are the man the conversation we had befor we lift last night it will happen every day and night OK, all of you brothers take exter good care of your sweetharts thet are what keep us going and they do not deserve aney less, if not for them we would be SOL. Mark, give us a call if you wonder who the extra table belonged to....yellow with a red, white blue cloth on it......we spaced it...keep it and use it till next year..always a brother..clear on the right.....wait....do you know we love you????...jandk
Joe & Kristy <joeandkristy@citlink.net>
Nauvoo, IL USA - Sunday, September 20, 2009 at 21:46:12 (MDT)
hey guys, Janice and I are still on the road. We will RON in West Virgina. Hope to be in NC tomorro.
Larry Stokes <rudedog.20067@Yahoo.com >
Kinston , NC USA - Sunday, September 20, 2009 at 21:03:28 (MDT)
HI every one sounds like grate get together wish I could have maid it look fored to seeing the photo of it so take care every one.
Art
USA - Sunday, September 20, 2009 at 20:34:37 (MDT)
Hi all - I really enjoyed the welcome I received. I have a new family. The flight was awesome. AND regarding the cookies and pies - they don't depend on your being nice. I enjoy doing it for somebody who appreciates it - and I can see that you do. You are a great group of guys and gals and I'm looking forward to getting to know you better and seeing you again next year.
Ida Brown <idabrown@live.com>
USA - Sunday, September 20, 2009 at 20:16:39 (MDT)
Been home from LZ Kokomo since 1:00PM. Grandkids were waiting on ole Pap, so this is the 1st chance to set down and report in. Will type lots more in next few days about Kokomo and the roster of those attending. Will also put pix up on Yahoo site. Just let me say this, Gale........... is still a thief!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...........lights out.........
Mark
USA - Sunday, September 20, 2009 at 17:42:16 (MDT)
Seriously; i want to thank all of the 129 and crew for a chance to take to the air again. ida says that flying with the open door is really cool as she never had the chance before. thank you all for allowing me to feed you,been a long while since i put on a feed. i hope i am allowed to next year.. i also would like to thank you all for making my friend darrel and nancy feel welcome. he was dumbfounded by it all.he was crying last nite and today he was making plans for next year.WES and KATHY;really will be nice to see you next summer,the drool was running down the front of my wifes shirt when you described getting agates out by the island. Stickman; maple cookies will be shipped as soon as possible. wife really enjoyed talking to you about the trainers. think i may start a catering service;YOU KILL IT ,I"LL GRILL IT. i really did have a good time doing it. email addy idapaul at yahoo dot com
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Sunday, September 20, 2009 at 17:34:25 (MDT)
WOW!!!!! I made it home ok, but, I'm still flying high. It was definetly a great turnout. I'll post more when I recover from all this..................Gale 67-68
Gale
USA - Sunday, September 20, 2009 at 15:59:00 (MDT)
Made it home by 4;10 today.Ran into a wall of rain so hard I haD to pull off the road and wait for it to slow down before going on.So much rain,I thought I lost me sight or was going blind.So many brothers at Kokomo this year.looked like as many as the Reunion at St.Louis,Mo.Food and comoradery was great.Howard county said,we were the loudest fun loveing group at the grounds.I think that part of that was haveing our Gently with us.She is a great lady,and she lives for the troops.I am honored to have met her.Hope to see more of her in the future.Jim and Jim are already planing for next year.Always a Brother.
Jim <Dustoff>
shiloh, IL USA - Sunday, September 20, 2009 at 15:51:13 (MDT)
jut posted about 150 pics from flight line at kokomo/Grissom AFB. Still have a few more to post..some have doubled up...all my fault. If you see a pic of you,or one you want, and cant copy /paste it for yourself, send me a e-note and I will see about sending you the pic in an e-mail.Susan has also taken a bunch of pics at the campsite...and is spoting them. All on the yahoo- site .... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/129thahc
alvis
USA - Sunday, September 20, 2009 at 15:34:49 (MDT)
well guys and gals made it home and it is raining like a big dog pissing. will post more later and ida says she will start posting here also.she said every body made her feel very welcome, remember guys your pie and cookies depend on it.email addy is idapaul at yahoo
paul mcgrath
lasalle , il USA - Sunday, September 20, 2009 at 14:55:31 (MDT)
Made it home OK and had to recover a bit as the past five days have been more than we could have asked for. We had been hoping to have a good turn out at Kokomo and this year we hit the mark and it was good to see the guys & wives taking a flight with Ron & Kal flying the aircraft. As I told Larry Stokes, it is like the 129th is still flying one more time together.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Sunday, September 20, 2009 at 14:23:11 (MDT)
In its recent review of medical research into the long-term effects of exposure to herbicides in Vietnam, the Institute of Medicine (IOM) concluded that there is a suggestive link between exposure to Agent Orange and Ischemic Heart Disease, Parkinson's Disease and certain rare cancers.
In the same review, the IOM affirmed its earlier conclusion that there is a significantly increased risk of developing hypertension in those who served in Vietnam.
The Veterans of Foreign Wars is calling on the VA to fully recognize these findings and award presumptive service connection for veterans suffering from these diseases who were exposed to Agent Orange.
In 2000, a similar study found a link between Agent Orange and Type II Diabetes. Those findings led the VA to recognize presumptive service connection for Vietnam veterans suffering from the disease.
"Based on this data, the VA should take swift action," says Gerald Manar, Deputy Director, National Veterans Service. "The VFW is pushing for full recognition of conditions linked to Agent Orange exposure, along with proper medical care and timely compensation."
alvis
USA - Sunday, September 20, 2009 at 13:27:30 (MDT)
Donny, ALL are welcome,we belong to the same brotherhood,aint any stripes or bars at the reunions,just brothers(and sisters).Smitty...Griff was there ( and lovely wife)..we indeed did fly/know him. The helicopter flights...Susan said it was her first helicopter flight and the pilot (KAL),hadnt flown in 37 years and was deaf..lol. Kal did a great job,as did Ron. They took us up for quite a ride,long time GI, did low level up the Walbash river for a few miles (now thaT BROUGHT BACK MEMORIES). LOL, a gal was trying to ride/train her horse a we flew over...horse was dancing in circles,she holding on to the lead and shooting us looks that could kill forthe few moments we passed overhead. Frenchie got so excited he let his camera slide out the door onb one of those sharp turnsthat happens when low level..lol...sorry man. The food was more than enough to feed us for 3 or 4 meals...Paul and lovely wife did an OUTSTANDING job..just simply outstanding.(stickman brought up some gator-tail). I have over a hunderd pics that will be posted later today or tommorow ,all taken around the flight hanger,flight,and active runway. The bird everyone flew on was a Nam bird.Interetingly,they had pics of her flying in Nam...in flight with NO SKIDS..she had crash landed in a burning LZ, skids ripped off,Pilot restarted aircraft after about 45 minutes, while crapping a brick the entire time, then flown back to company AO,and landed on prepaired sand bagged 'set up". I have pics of the pics and of the story.They also have a dustoff Bird that was across the hill from us at Lane, with the 498. Speaking of that, Our own Jim was a pilot over therebut had TWO 498th dustoff crewmen show up at our campsite and vist a while. Kokomo is just amazing. Phil,Simon, Neal and the gang called.Course the 509 is never far rom our hearts.Speaking ofthat, i took a few special pics for them,which i will send ver soon.
alvis
USA - Sunday, September 20, 2009 at 13:17:53 (MDT)
Flight: I forgot to thank Gale Beard for all his hard work getting everything set at Kokomo. Thanks Gale!! Good to see so many of you. Don't know the final count. But,it was a great reunion for the 129th. We missed those of you whom couldn't make it. But, there is next year. Also, coming up is Lambeau in Wis. Gently will be supplying the info on this. The, Atlanta, GA. VHCMA/129th reunion. Will be flying with the American Hertiage Foundation. Once again thanks Gale and all whom worked hard to make this a special Kokomo reunion for the 129th. Always A Brother!!
Alex
Colierville, TN USA - Sunday, September 20, 2009 at 13:13:31 (MDT)
Donny, old habits die hard, have a nice day, waiting for the cowboys to play tonight in their new billion dollar stadium, wreck em Tech ,TEX 70-71...
Gary Mount
USA - Sunday, September 20, 2009 at 12:22:57 (MDT)
First Gary, please cease and desist with all military etiquette, K? Per......,as I am still on a consolatory retainer, I am required to initially identify myself as such. My friends still call me Donny at 60 years old and my call sign was Reaper and that is how it should be. Also, thanks much for your response.
Donny
USA - Sunday, September 20, 2009 at 11:49:26 (MDT)
Col. Hans, Idont have a problem with you onour post, but not up to me, Thank you for your service.. Tex 70-71..
Gary Mount
USA - Sunday, September 20, 2009 at 11:22:48 (MDT)
Alex, really enjoyed reading your post, thinking of you , Art and Jim and others, have a nice day, watched the game between Texas Tech and Texas , being from Lubbock ,was real proud of our Red Raiders, very gutsy performance, clear right, Tex 70-71
Gary Mount
USA - Sunday, September 20, 2009 at 11:18:08 (MDT)
Have read many posts and it's heart-breaking. I had my wings clipped in Yemen, 4/03 due to dioxin positive and the flight surgeon retired me on a medical in 15 minutes and had me on a transport back to Langley in additional 10 minutes for a 12 hour "debriefing" and reclamation of anything related to my 1100 link and sent me packing. Not even a gold watch. 1969 to 2003 active combat aggressor and interdiction, 7th AF 23rd SO Sq, Langley, forward support and interdiction for OP Phoenix grounders. Also, as many broken arrows as we could get in NAM 69 to 75. We also loved to totally heat Charlie's back-side and make a horrific mess of his companies and battalions. I'm the last man standing of the 11. In theses 6 years, I have become very symptomatic and now even require assisted living and a service dog. The orange is shredding me head to toe and only getting worse. No one "wants to" understands and as you know, all the docs have their head up their back side. Got an invite yesterday to "come on down" and to chew the fat with you all, I was told that there are folks just like you who do understand and were there. SO. To the point, are fast-movers and officers welcome? More over, do you all still frag incompetent officers? Cause I can get pretty damn stupid if I actually do take all the meds I'm supposed to. That's why I have Cheyenne, my service dog. Please advise and sincerely, and God Bless you all for your service, valor and scarifies made on behalf of this country.
Col Donny Hans, USAF ret/dis <dahans@comcast.net>
LaPorte, IN USA - Sunday, September 20, 2009 at 10:50:11 (MDT)
Well Liz and I arrived home about midnight. Ran into plenty of rain between Louisville and Memphis TN. Kokomo was great!! Had a great time with our 129th Brothers and Sisters. We stayed with my friend and counter part from 1965 Rainer and his wonderful wife Dee.I was great spending time with them. Also joined by Joe (1965) and his wife Kristy. Friday we landed at LZ Kokomo. It was great!!! It was worth the drive to see this annual event. It's huge Welcome Home Party!! Saturday morning we conveyed to the airfield. We were meet by this old vietnam pilot, pants leg pulled up trying to hitch a ride. It was our Ron Paye !! From then on a flight of a life time!!! Ron was the Pilot for the first three flights and he took us on a flight this 129th Brother will never forget. I felt 19 again. Plus it brought back a lot of memories with my tours with the 129th. Kal relieved Ron on the next few flights. I personally would like to thank Ron and his group for a ever lasting experience. Also, Gently letting me and mark in on this special ride that Ron did for his 129th Family. We used the christmas fund money to pay for this. I hope in the next few months we can start putting dollars back in to the Christmas fund. Everyone one know by now the purpose of the Fund. If, not let me tell you. It's for our 129th Brothers and Sister to go to reunions whom don't have enough money . It might be for a few days of rooms, etc. So, please keep donating to the Christmas fund. Ron Paye!! Words will never express my emotions and feelings after the flight yesterday. You have given me an early Christmas present. And , Please post to where we can send a thank card to the men and women who helped you give us a few hours that we will remember for a life time. Always A Brother!!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Sunday, September 20, 2009 at 10:41:13 (MDT)
HI every one & Jim when they start you on new med you should not just stop taking one & then start new one that could mess your hole body up should get the old one out of your body first about a week start you on the new one & what you sead that what going on & the wright was is they put you in the VA & do it & they dont do it. I had a DOC in Augusta VA he told us you will have that PTSD for the rest of your life& the people tell you got to forget what happen over there they dont know what ars talking about I just walk the other way & when I see a dead dog or somthing like that I go back over there to november of 68 when a frend step on a 105 round I held it in Nov. 68 to 98. I have never talk about it but Glenda could tell somthing was not wright in 72 if I had let it out then & not keep in in to 98. I still say guy that were abord slicks shout get PTSD & flite crew got into the thick stuf to & you had to sit there & hope there wasent a RPG headed your way or a AK 47 or a 51 you were like a duck in the air & NO PLACE TO HIDE AS a grunt can move out of the line of FIRE
Art
USA - Saturday, September 19, 2009 at 11:27:07 (MDT)
Smitty, I'm sorry to hear you've been feeling poorly. Hang in there Brother and get better if you can. I'll be thinking about you..
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Saturday, September 19, 2009 at 09:50:46 (MDT)
usan and I buzzed up to Kokomo for a few hours last night.Iam very urprised by the size of the turn out.Lots and lots of folks,and most had gone by the late hour of our arrival. Great camp fire going and the tall tales had already started....lol.I am Missing a bunch of you.Smitty, lettme know howyou doing.Its 630AM,time to get rolling. Will report tonight.
alvis
USA - Saturday, September 19, 2009 at 04:23:50 (MDT)
My prayers are with you Jim and Art, and Im sure many others of our 129th. brothers thank God Im as healthy as I am, other than depression and backpain from time to time, nothing like you guys ,I have trouble sleeping at night like Im sure a lot of us do. have flashbacks , I can easily put myself back on the flightline and see in detail everything around me the pilots upfront , hovering down the flightline , listening to Lane tower, and taking off feeling the transitional lift, looking towards Quinhon and the sea , slowly turning to the north to turn toward the pass or head north to Phucat aand seeing the valley and the rice pattys and the villages and the highway and the bridge but somehow the last few days forgot about September 10th, the day 373, went down N.E.0f L.Z. English, I guess as time goes by Ill forget more and more, witch is a good thing I guess, hope all you guys having a good time at L.Z. Kokomo, cant wait to see the pictures clear right oh almost forgot about the frog, eveytime it was going to rain a big old frog would hop in the hutch and get under my bunk clear right, Tex 70-71
Gary Mount
USA - Saturday, September 19, 2009 at 00:44:40 (MDT)
You folks in Kokomo best be taking about a ga-gillion pictures to post to the Yahoo site!!
Susan E
Tempe, AZ USA - Friday, September 18, 2009 at 23:53:04 (MDT)
hang in there buddy...let me know if there is ANYTHING I can do for you.You my bud,as well as one of my crewchiefs.lol.
alvis
USA - Friday, September 18, 2009 at 16:56:52 (MDT)
been lookin in some when i could, been awful sick, Kidney functions went awry. Became confused a few times, have an awful thrombophlebitis in my l leg. We were worried about osteo but none yet. Had to change a bunch of my meds in a Hurry. I am very sorry for the losses i have missed & those sick . please forgive me I'll let ya know as i get a little better.... love & respects to all>>>.. Smitty
jim westwang 71 72
sheridan, wy USA - Friday, September 18, 2009 at 16:49:21 (MDT)
Washington DC,Sept 13th,2047... Its our sad duty to report death of the last Vietnam Veteran. With his family till the last, its reported he had quiet moments whenever he heard the sound of helicopters ( a flying machine used back then,now day just by hobbiest). It also reported that he was the last veteran to actually serve in country,although there continues to be three thousand special forces, one thousand lurps, six thousand snipers, nine hundred tunnel rats, and twenty thousand Purple Heart recipients,all claiming to have served in country.Its believed a few actually did serve in the service,even fewer out of the country,ei, Germany,Korea,ect. VA has been quoted a saying they will really miss the Nam Vets, as they did all they could for them since they were treated so poorly upon their return stateside.Jane Fonda,the acclaimed actress,stated she shall miss them as she has always stood by their side,in thick and thin.
alvis
USA - Friday, September 18, 2009 at 14:54:53 (MDT)
pies are in the oven and the caterer will be leaving here at noon. see ya this evening
paul mcgrath
lasalle, USA - Friday, September 18, 2009 at 08:32:17 (MDT)
Wow, I can not even begin to say who all made it yesterday as I can't keep track. Wes & his wife came in pulling thier camper from Oregan so think that takes the record @ over 2300 miles. "Stickman" has his flute, Rick England telling tales. Ray Granger & his wife are just a few because so many I have never met or talked to. By Saturday morning I don't know how many but hope Gently is here with a school bus because we have already broke a record here.
Ken Strong Jr
LZ Kokomo, IN USA - Friday, September 18, 2009 at 06:30:07 (MDT)
sorry art wish you could be here. will take some pics if i can ever figure out how to send them.if they do them from both ends they might trap something in the middle
paul mcgrath
USA - Thursday, September 17, 2009 at 20:52:25 (MDT)
HI you are braking my hart with all that food they going to do a scope on me from both ends I hope they do the upper one first if not it wont tase good or do them at the same time & they be looking at each other .
Art
USA - Thursday, September 17, 2009 at 20:35:46 (MDT)
baking cookies here tonight and doing laundry, only 25 dozen this year guys and girls baking pies in the morning will have 8, blueberry,peach,apple,and cherry. see ya in the afternoon around 6-7
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Thursday, September 17, 2009 at 18:42:18 (MDT)
Hi to you all,
I regret that I am unable to attend the gala festivities of the 129th Annual Reunion. From what I have read, a good time will be injoyed by all that attend. It would be nice to sit around and drink to all that didn't make it and tell stories of "Remembe When". IF there are any enlisted that have stories I would like to hear them.
In my one of posting, I said I was with the 129th from 1969 to 1970, that was wrong I served from Jan 1969 to Feb 1971, two whole years plus.
I would like to hear from Sp5 Sprague, Les. He was the only surviour of flight of 371, the one that tried to go under the bridge. Who torched the 1st Sgt. Shitter? I remember Frailly at morning quarters, telling everyone including 1st Sgt. "The Great Punkin did it 1st Sgt." Remeber the frog hopping up the flight line towards the repair hanger, then waddling, dragging their bellies full of termits back down the flight line? How about the first and only loop(I know of)in a Huey. I'm sure the CC had to change his shorts on landing.
Well all you men and your family have Great Time, those that don't make it will be missed and those that didn't make it back, "Will NEVER Be Forgotten!
Signing off for now, Over.
Sp5 Henson, Don
Sp5 Henson, Donald C. <dlhenson@myway.com>
Henderson, Nevada USA - Thursday, September 17, 2009 at 13:56:40 (MDT)
No you won't Paul...you're on the field trip:>))) L-Gently
Gently
USA - Thursday, September 17, 2009 at 12:27:28 (MDT)
jim or i will be there saturday morning and afternoon.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, USA - Thursday, September 17, 2009 at 10:49:33 (MDT)
HI every one wish I was there it would do me good to be with all of you.
Art
USA - Thursday, September 17, 2009 at 10:41:22 (MDT)
We're converging on Kokomo! Any last minutes thoughts of joining us? Just show up...somone will always be there...except Saturday morning when the field trip happens. Ken...God bless you man. L-Gently.
Gently
USA - Thursday, September 17, 2009 at 10:23:36 (MDT)
Reporting this morning early as generator ran out of gas. Mark, Gale & I all got here yesterday & the flags are flying high. Had the campfire burning but us old guys quit early last night after setting up camp, grilling brats & kicking back for a while. It is looking good for the rest of the week w/highs in mid 70s and lows in mid 50s. The guys next to us from TX were wearing long sleeve shirts, said after over 100 degree days for so long it was down right cold here! I thought a tee shirt was just great!
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
LZ Kokomo, IN USA - Thursday, September 17, 2009 at 04:34:45 (MDT)
While have just a wake up finally!! Liz and I will be heading to Rainers in Greenfield IN. And, we all will be heading in to LZ Kokomo sometime Friday. Wink is on his way. We will be crossing paths on 65 North. Been waiting for this !! 44 years ago Rainer,Joe, Glenn and me was unknowingly get ready to take journey. Which ended us up in Vietnam. A C-130 ride that we wouldn't forget. As I look back we had some good times and some bad. But, I thank Liz for encouraging me to find my Brothers of the 129th back in 1991. Well, Through this site I have found quite a few of my Brothers from both tours with the 129th. See you soon. Always A Brother!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Wednesday, September 16, 2009 at 20:53:45 (MDT)
Fred S. thanks for the heads up on Cherry. I must be getting forgetful in my old age. Probably something I picked up while in Nam. I actually had his email address in my list, and I sent him an email when I found it. Mostly sunny days here in western NY for the past couple of weeks. Nights are getting colder now and it's getting harder to ride the bike to work. Low 50's makes for a cold ride when e but one of the 129thers called my cell and said he was bringing a charcoal griil. thank you very much for letting me know. we will use it. paul
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Wednesday, September 16, 2009 at 10:44:00 (MDT)
Fred S...............your good man brother. Those that need our hands to hold are the ones we need to spend time with. God Bless you brother..............always a a brother...........
Mark
USA - Wednesday, September 16, 2009 at 08:40:12 (MDT)
Fred, nice for you to be there for her!! Stickman, is that the Gator that "got your granny...uhm, uhm?". Will be leaving shortly for Kokomo...ETA about 2:00 to 3:oo.....................Gale
Gale
USA - Wednesday, September 16, 2009 at 08:22:18 (MDT)
Ray, we will have rides to and from our hotel....please don't worry about it. Just have a safe flight and nice evening at Ron's. I'll see you around 10 on Friday morning..watch for me..I'll be in the cockpit:>))) Stickman! Gator food....OMG! That will be the weirdest:>)) To those driving ...please be very careful. To those flying....Angel hold us up. Love-Gently
Gently
USA - Wednesday, September 16, 2009 at 07:37:37 (MDT)
Fred, Thank you for being there for Carmella in her time of grief. My sincere condolences.
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Tuesday, September 15, 2009 at 22:50:18 (MDT)
Well heading out in the AM. Going to make a stop in Ky spend night with brother. I should be there sometime thur. I am bring about 5lbs of gator tail nuggets, see if you guys can cook that up. Also bring some fat liter, for the fire sat nite. Course I'm bringing a stick or 2 for the bon fire, gotta play a little. Stickman is outta here, and north bound.
Jim "stickman" Oliver
Pembroke, Ga USA - Tuesday, September 15, 2009 at 19:58:30 (MDT)
Fred I am sorry to read about Greg as we all know we loose those close to us along the way and not just in war. I hope you can help her through this hard time!
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Tuesday, September 15, 2009 at 17:33:01 (MDT)
As you all know I work for a International Non-Profit, a church based in Geneva. It`s a "senior citizen" facility.....a real nice one....But I do get attached to certain senior`s, and Mrs. Masino (Carmela) is one of them. She has one grandson, Greg, she loves Greg........Greg join the Army, and went to Iraq, and servived 3 tours of that place......Well fellas, Greg was killed today in a accident....here in the states. He turn over a military vehicle of some kind, while doing some training. 23 years old.....and gone. I stayed after work today and sit with Carmela......She is just broken hearted, and it kills me to watch her suffer.......Just had to bounce that off the web-site.........
Fred Skaggs
Annandale, NJ USA - Tuesday, September 15, 2009 a mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Tuesday, September 15, 2009 at 14:26:57 (MDT)
Paul, there is a "little field Trip" for several hours on Sat. Leaving at 9AM. Please bring everything you had intended to bring because we will all still be eating like pigs:>)) and will have plenty of time to prepare the food and eat. Stick with your plan. L-Gently
Gently
USA - Tuesday, September 15, 2009 at 14:21:34 (MDT)
MARK; can you please give me a call at 815 343 6709 thanks paul
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Tuesday, September 15, 2009 at 07:12:38 (MDT)
FYI: Memorial Calls for Photos of Vietnam Vets
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, Sept. 15, 2009 - The National Call for Photos, a campaign to gather images of the more than 58,000 men and women whose names are on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, will be launched Sept. 17 at a Newseum event here hosted by the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund and FedEx Office.
FedEx Office will use its locations across the country to help in gathering photos.
Established in 1979, the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund is dedicated to preserving the legacy of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial here, promoting healing and educating people about the impact of the Vietnam War.
The fund's latest initiative is The Education Center at The Wall, an underground facility near the memorial that is being designed to help visitors discover the stories of those named on The Wall and celebrate the values embodied by servicemembers from all of America's wars.
Exhibits will include a wall of photographs of people whose names are on The Wall, a selection of the more than 100,000 items that have been left at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, a timeline of key military events of the Vietnam War and a history of the memorial.
The center also will celebrate the values embodied by America's servicemembers: loyalty, duty, respect, service, honor, integrity and courage, officials said. An exit exhibit will show images of those who have served in America's conflicts, from the Revolutionary War to Iraq.
More than $20 million has been raised for the education center, including a $10 million gift from Time Warner. It is estimated that the center will cost $85 million to build.
Other Memorial Fund initiatives include educational programs for students and teachers, a traveling Wall replica that honors veterans and a humanitarian and mine-action program in Vietnam.
gently
USA - Tuesday, September 15, 2009 at 06:57:38 (MDT)
Kal; sounds like we may be ok on the grill Gale; no need to bring the easy bake oven, we baked a couple pies and the top element is to close to the top crust,scorches it. we will bake cookies here on thurs and bake the pies here on friday morning. gonna have peach,blueberry,apple and cherry. as far as saturday afternoon i will get with the master baster and i'm thinking we'll throw it all together. don't want to piss anybody off. maybe get some ice cream for the pie also.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Monday, September 14, 2009 at 19:48:27 (MDT)
Kal; sounds like we may be ok on the grill Gale; no need to bring the easy bake oven, we baked a couple pies and the top element is to close to the top crust,scorches it. we will bake cookies here on thurs and bake the pies here on friday morning. gonna have peach,blueberry,apple and cherry. as far as saturday afternoon i will get with the master baster and i'm thinking we'll throw it all together. don't want to piss anybody off. maybe get some ice cream for the pie also.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Monday, September 14, 2009 at 19:48:09 (MDT)
I was going to bring the gas grill but after measuring it I found it won't fit in the van.. No, I am not going to lay it down.. I will have a couple tables and a couple chairs and will pick up some paper plates and plastic utinsels.. Any guestimate on the needed numbers yet? 100?? I have a meeting I have to attend Friday morning so am planning on hitting the road around noon+- so should be there at or around 4PM.. C U at Kokomo...
Kal
USA - Monday, September 14, 2009 at 19:31:24 (MDT)
ok;no problem i will not go trying to dig one up and thanks for the heads up on the other thing. wasn't sure who that included will tell the wives they can sleep in. see ya friday around 6pm. paul
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Monday, September 14, 2009 at 18:15:58 (MDT)
Paul, there will be plenty of gas available if Kal & Alvis is there!!! Heeheheehee
Gale
USA - Monday, September 14, 2009 at 16:59:35 (MDT)
Fred S. Go Bearcats-My wife was walking around in her UC t-shirt(grad school there) When I asked her why she wasn't wearing her Miami of O shirt she made some hand motion to me. Kind of sensitive. I was of course in my UNC shirt after our marginal butt kicking of UConn. OK, It wasn't eaxctly a butt kicking. I really thought THE Ohio State U was finally going to beat USC. GO ACC!!!!!
Jeff
Lake Norman, NC USA - Monday, September 14, 2009 at 16:48:59 (MDT)
Anybody id welcome at anytime Paul....but you have to remember that 129th members will be on an excursion starting Saturday morning till the afternoon. I would tell more but that would spoil the surprise..........
Mark
USA - Monday, September 14, 2009 at 16:18:07 (MDT)
Paul, I'll bring a gas grill and Ron Paye talked about bringing a grill also and someone else on here did.........
Mark
USA - Monday, September 14, 2009 at 16:16:19 (MDT)
Flight; there are going to be a couple of guys from the 498th that are going to show on saturday. just thought i'd let you know. still haven't heard what if any grilling apparatus we have. may have to use fire rings and charcoal.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Monday, September 14, 2009 at 15:42:42 (MDT)
Robbie...."Cherry" was Mr. Muirhead.....Gale Beard, I`m still recouping from the Ohio State vs Southern Cal game,....I went to game Saturday night.....I don`t think if you put OSU, Beagals, and Browns together they could win a football game.......At least U. of Cincy made me look good here in Jersey, because they beat the crap out of Rutgers.....
Fred Skaggs
Annandale, NJ USA - Monday, September 14, 2009 at 14:49:12 (MDT)
morning flight,rick i'll be pulling friday, early morning. i'll have clubs with me.>>>>>> wes good to hear you are going to be at kokomo. looking to seeing you.>>>>>>>> alex i'll be heading out wed. evening around 7p.m. i'll give a call when i hit the oad.for me , three adys and a wake up. wink 3/69-10/70
wink
lake wales, fl USA - Monday, September 14, 2009 at 09:27:47 (MDT)
Mr. Morrell.....(Cherry) are you still looking in from time to time? How about you Mr. bloomfield? If you could, please contact me about some research I'm doing on a pilot from our time frame in 129th. **315=589=7971* or bulldog265atbluefrog.com..
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Monday, September 14, 2009 at 07:23:24 (MDT)
Gale, I'm sorry to say I won't make it to Kokomo. I am helping my Daughter move into her first home. She's been renting for years and is excited to have her own place where she can put a nail in a wall wherever she damn well pleases. She's 36 now and has 4 beautiful kids. I've been a proud Grandpa for 12 years now. I am planning on going to Atlanta in 2010. I hope to see a lot of Brothers and sisters at that time. I know you all will have a good time at Kokomo and I wish I could see all of you there. Maybe after I retire. It's almost here...
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Monday, September 14, 2009 at 07:18:50 (MDT)
Alex, my cell is 812-239-0638. Simon, we also wish that you & your crew could be at Kokomo with us. We'll have to synronize our times and have a drink together sometime Saturday! We'll take lots a photos............................
Gale 67-68
USA - Monday, September 14, 2009 at 06:53:26 (MDT)
Sounds like it is going to be a really good gathering at Kokomo. Sorry we can't be with you but definately in spirit, have a great time and we'll drink a toast to you all on Saturday here in the UK. All the best from the 509 crew in Lil old England. Simon.
Simon Johnson <simon_johnson@talktalk.net>
Mellor, 509 County UK - Monday, September 14, 2009 at 05:54:28 (MDT)
Lot of commo since I last checked the site. To be off I have worked the last 11 days with 12 plus shifts at autozone . The young people don't want to show for work. I guess mom % Dad will take care of them. Gale Will try and get Liz to by Costco and get paper plates ETC. Post your cell and will call you and let you know. Or, my cell is901-487-0374. Well on my way to work. Two days and a wake up. Will have some tools with. It in case in auto problems. Always A Brother!!
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Monday, September 14, 2009 at 05:31:32 (MDT)
Hope everyone has the greatest of times in Komomo!!!! Wish we could be there with you - but will be in spirit!!!!!
Bill & Kat Wolf
USA - Sunday, September 13, 2009 at 18:52:51 (MDT)
weather for kokomo looks good highs in low 70's and only 10% chance of rain
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Sunday, September 13, 2009 at 16:34:52 (MDT)
From Indian Heights which is the intersection of Hwy 31 & St rd 26 South of Kokomo: (LZ Kokomo site 429-W)Going east on Hwy 26 approx. 8 miles, turn right on gravel rd (you can see the action from the road), turn left into west entrance and pay entry fee.(has been $10) Take the road on your left and proceed about 1 to 1 1/2 city blocks, we'll be on the left at site 429-W. Look for the "129th" flag & yellow sign with "Lane Army Heliport." WELCOME HOME!!!
Gale
USA - Sunday, September 13, 2009 at 14:11:29 (MDT)
Wink and anybody else playing golf bring your clubs we might get out.????? There are about 4 or 5 already. Flight be careful out there
Rick England
USA - Sunday, September 13, 2009 at 10:50:35 (MDT)
Kathy and I are nearly ready to be heading to Kokomo. This is new to us so I will contribute and help where we can when arrive. Plan on arrival on Wednesday but depends on my old dodge. We are dragging a trailer, bringing a generator and some firewood. Hoping to run into someone that can point us in the right directions so if you see a 92 blue dodge and travel trailer from Oregon at the entrance with a driver that seems to be lost it will be us.
Wes Griffith <griff90880@msn.com>
Clatskanie, Or USA - Sunday, September 13, 2009 at 10:45:26 (MDT)
We wish that you all could make it to Kokomo! Remeber, we'll be at LZ Atlanta in June of 2010.............put that on your calender. Anyone that's coming to LZ Kokomo.......need a voluteer to bring Paper plates,paper towels,paper cups and plastic forks or anything else along those lines?
Gale
USA - Sunday, September 13, 2009 at 07:48:22 (MDT)
Lee,
Can you swing by and pick me up? I really wish I could be there for this get together and revisit my brothers. But I can't get out of work.
John
John Sartor
Oceanside, CA USA - Sunday, September 13, 2009 at 01:57:33 (MDT)
Hi guys, Looking forward to seeing everyone at Kokomo. I can give anyone who needs a ride from around the Dayton OH area, just give me a call. 937 254 9110. Clear left. Lee
Lee Wood
USA - Sunday, September 13, 2009 at 00:06:48 (MDT)
Yeah Ken, things are coming together. I'll probably be there before 4:00 on Wed. I'll bring a little wood for Wed night and we'll go from there. Hey Fred Scaggs, when are you going to show up for a gathering? It would be nice iffen you surprised us and popped in at Kokomo!!!! How 'bout you Robbie....we'll find you a place to sleep!? This is only about my 9th year at Kokomo, but, it is great!!
Gale
USA - Saturday, September 12, 2009 at 17:04:21 (MDT)
Mark & Gale, yes I paid for Friday & Saturday nights on all the sites as my part. So show them the forms when you get there and you will still need to pay ten to get in and twenty for the extra two nights. Just changed the Idle Aie Control on the RV yesterday, filled it with gas and packing it up with stuff. The count down has started..
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Saturday, September 12, 2009 at 14:26:23 (MDT)
hey guys and gals;looks like we are ready here for kokomo. i've got 60 lbs of pork chops, 85 ears of corn, some squash, wife is starting to assemble pies, looks like 8 pies of 4 different kinds and about 50 doz cookies of 5 different varieties. was wondering tho are we going to have any grills with a good sized cooking area.doesn't matter if gas or charcoal. if not please let me know as i could proabably borrow from the scout troop.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Saturday, September 12, 2009 at 12:47:15 (MDT)
Gale and Ken, Forms......I have the one that Ken sent me. It says Paid on it. Do I have to send it in or just present it at the gate when I get there????........Gettin' real excited about Kokomo.........Robbie, good to hear from you brother,...........always a brother.................
Mark
USA - Saturday, September 12, 2009 at 11:36:22 (MDT)
Just got back from getting the wheel bearings repacked on the Shasta. Turns out, they were ok, but, I feel better knowing for sure. I'm was too lazy to check them myself.
Gale
USA - Saturday, September 12, 2009 at 09:31:41 (MDT)
Slow hand salute to the crew of 257. Mark, congratulations on yet another grandchild....John Sartor, I remember Mr McKay and have a few pictures of him.
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Saturday, September 12, 2009 at 07:37:31 (MDT)
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Mark, here's a previous log from Ken.........................
*Gale you are right except we had