the folks down at the local libary would help him.
alvis
USA - Saturday, March 31, 2007 at 22:57:10 (MDT)

Hey Wink, or anyone that was in the guns 69/70 did you know a guy named George Bessette that was in the guns when you were there? He was from Somerset Mass. I was looking through my March/April's Veteran's magazine. It was in the locator section. He was looking for guys that were in the guns from 69/70. There was a phone # so I called and asked him if he had a computer, and he doesn't. Says he's not puter literate. Anyway, thought I would post this. I have his phone # if anyone wsnts to contact him.
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Saturday, March 31, 2007 at 16:58:34 (MDT)

Kim,Bill,we will be sending out the painting , to you two, very soon.Have the bubble wrap already,will get boxes from work. Thanks guys.
alvis
USA - Saturday, March 31, 2007 at 10:31:04 (MDT)

Gently, can you please send me 4 posters at Me, 5029 St. Anthony Rd. Celina, Ohio 45822. And please tell me where to send the money. Been reading in here every day gang. Just hangin' low for a spell. I love you all............
Mark
USA - Saturday, March 31, 2007 at 09:55:40 (MDT)

HI TO ALL WELL WEHT TO VA DR NO CANSER IN SPLEEN. BUT WAS TOLD I MUST STILL BE CAREFUL AND STAY ON THE PAIN PILLS IT STILL BRINGS ME LOTS OF PAIN EVEN WHEN I BREATH, THE TOLD ME TO TAKE IT EASY SO IT DONT RUPTURE. I SEE THE HEMOTOLIGHT ON THE 11th OF APRIL. WE SEE THEN, WHY I STILL HAVE TH PAIN.STILL GOT THE 2 CAMERA TEST ON THE 5th ON THE 5th ALL OUT SIDE DRs. I HOPE EVERY ONE IS DOING WELL. BILL ITALK TO YOU IN ORLANDO. I TOLD MY GRAND SON I GOT A BOK ON VN FOR HIM AND WILL SIGN IT, I ASK YOU A FAVOR THERE IF OU CAN ADD SOMETHING OK I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT IAM TALKING ABOUT I THANKS YOU SO MUCH ROB HOW ARE YOU DOING RICK AND LEX KAL I LOOK FOR YOU MONDAY.I SPOKE TO CP THE OTHER DAY AND JAMIE THEY BOTH SOUND GRATE.I CANT WAIT TO SEE YO ALL IN ORLANDO.GENTLY HOW ARE YOU DOING , IAM GOING TO BRING MY FLUTES TO ORLANDO I HOPE I CAN TRY TO PLAY WELL TAKE CARE ABROTHER ALWAYS RAY
RAY <stilwating@aol.com>
MD USA - Saturday, March 31, 2007 at 08:31:30 (MDT)

well heck. me too gently. please e mail.
alvis
USA - Friday, March 30, 2007 at 21:35:18 (MDT)

Gently, I am interested in a poster. Please E-mail me. At johnlc340@hotmail.com So I can get the address to sent the money for the poster.
John L, Christenson <johnlc340@hotmail.com>
Pacifica, CA USA - Friday, March 30, 2007 at 19:13:04 (MDT)

BOOK UPDATE: The manuscript is in the mail on its way to Bill Whelan for printing! Once Bill is able to give me the cost of printing I'll be able to figure out the final cost for a book and will post that here and on the mini-webpage I created for the book: http://www.wolfcms.com/book.html. I'm going to have Bill print 300 copies. Originally I was going to only have 200 printed, but I think there will be enough requests for 300. I'll keep you all updated! Bill Wolf
Bill Wolf
USA - Friday, March 30, 2007 at 17:43:12 (MDT)

OK...who else wants one of our 129th posters...$5.....includes shipping. Money goes to Christmas Fund. I've only gotten one name to help so far.....who else is out there??? L-Gently
Gently
USA - Friday, March 30, 2007 at 15:14:55 (MDT)

Hi flight. I just booked a flight to Orlando round trip for $113.30 leaving Kinston on Allegiant air 22nd and returning on 25th. I can share my room with someone. The ones who live in Easten N.C. could take this flight and save some money.
J. W. Wilson
USA - Friday, March 30, 2007 at 12:11:21 (MDT)

Well, I was replacing a leaky valve cover gasket on my bike, and when I checked the valves, (like a good Mechanic) I found I was unable to get the minimum feeler gauge of .08 in the gap between the valve top and the cam. Matter of fact I couldn't get .038mm under it. So I figure the valve hasn't even been opening for I don't know how long. All others seem fine. So I decide to take the Camshaft off and order a new thinner shim for the valve. I have a 2000 Kawasaki 750 ZR7 with an in line 4 cylinder engine, so I take all of the holding brackets to the front camshaft off and the camshaft chain gets so tight I couldn't move the camshaft at all. I read ahead a page or two in my service manual and find that I have a non return type of chain tensioner. Which means that the push rod doesn't return to it's original position once it moves out to take up the camshaft chain slack. So now I have to remove the camshaft chain tensioner, and then I can remove the camshaft and get the valve shim out so I can measure it and order a new slimmer shim so the valve will open. Then I can put it all back together. At least I know the work is done right and it doesn't cost more than $10.00 and some help from a friend. Oh, and lots of beers. Hope all is well with everyone....Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Friday, March 30, 2007 at 11:36:41 (MDT)

Fred, et all, I'd be honored to sign the book, but I'm not really the "author" as such - I just put your stuff together. I will have books at the reunion in Orlando and I think it would be great to have folks sign them there!!! Book will be going out on Monday. Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Friday, March 30, 2007 at 10:51:52 (MDT)

fred,you might have an idea there. If anyone wants to wait till after the reunion,to get their book. those at the reunion could sign it. shrug, well, it was your idea..lol
alvis
USA - Friday, March 30, 2007 at 10:41:39 (MDT)

Fred, I was thinkin' the same thing, but, having it done at Orlando.
Gale
USA - Friday, March 30, 2007 at 10:13:09 (MDT)

Bill...I`m not being funny....But will you autograph the book when I order it. That would be nice......Just to acknowlege that I was in the 129th.......
Fred Skaggs
NJ USA - Friday, March 30, 2007 at 09:55:34 (MDT)

BOOK UPDATE: Okay gang, the book is done!! 323 pages!! I will be doing the final proof reading this weekend and sending it off to Bill Whelan for printing. As soon as Bill Whelan can give me his cost for printing, I'll be able to figure out the final cost and will update that info here and on the website I set up for the book: http://www.wolfcms.com/book.html. I hope to be able to start taking your orders around May 1st. Will also bring copies to the VHCMA reunion. Again, it was an honor and privilage to be selected to do this project. I can't thank you all enough who sent in photos and stories. I think you'll really enjoy it!! Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Thursday, March 29, 2007 at 16:29:27 (MDT)

Gale;the cookie order is in and was also looking ta making golabkis( cabbage rolls)see ya in kokomo
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Thursday, March 29, 2007 at 12:55:13 (MDT)

Well i can be a designated driver if needed. If Spring ever comes, am right in the middle of the worst blizzard in years. Wind blowing 50 mph & greater hard to tell exact amt. of snow but 4 & 5 ft. Drifts, all highways closed in & out of town , no traveling except emergency & cant get a vehicle out anyway. I can now relate to Buffalo NY etc. real wet stuff & we needed the water. Didn't have anywhere to go anyhow. Mayor got on the Radio this am & said we were having a "community snow day". Ltc Crandall got a nice spread in VFW Magazine. Hope to see all at Orlando>>>>>>>>>>>> Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
sheridan, wy USA - Thursday, March 29, 2007 at 12:30:32 (MDT)

Haven't posted here in quite awhile. I've read everything, but usually keep my thoughts to myself. Don't get in quite so much trouble that way. Gently, I got the Posters. Thank you very much. Ray, I hope you're feeling ok. Hang in there brother. Keep thinking positive thoughts. Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Thursday, March 29, 2007 at 12:29:22 (MDT)

Wink: don't worry about Friday night!! We will find some place for our Gang!! Well trying to get everything working on the new computer system. Has the Windows Vista. Got me confused. All I can do is find my way to the 129th!! Also, our email is chaning due to comcast. Hope Liz will get it set up before long. She leaves in two weeks for a week of bussiness traveling on the west coast from Canada to L.A. and to S.D. This is her peak traveling time. Always A Brother!!
Alex
USA - Thursday, March 29, 2007 at 07:31:23 (MDT)

GENTLY I TO GO ALONG WITH GALE'S submitted. RAY
RAY
MD USA - Wednesday, March 28, 2007 at 16:10:57 (MDT)

Nope..no can do. But you have all that person feel really, really special:>)) and that's beautiful. L-Gently
Gently
USA - Wednesday, March 28, 2007 at 14:42:10 (MDT)

Gently,I go along with the name Gale submitted.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, March 28, 2007 at 14:10:40 (MDT)

Happy Birthday Tom Shaw....I remember "us" well:>) always will. L-J
Gently
USA - Wednesday, March 28, 2007 at 13:16:37 (MDT)

Dear boys:>))) you touch my heart. Now.....it's time to get me the names of those whom we know may need help getting to the re-union. You may also ask for help yourself...don't be shy. Go see your brothers..you're all getting ridiculously older now so don't wait until next year! The only criteria is that you BE A 129er. Period. The fund is for you...for you! So, send me names of people you know who need help and let's get them to the re-union. All help is kept strictly confidential. Nuff said. Gentlyjs@yahoo.com. :>))))) Gently
Gently
USA - Wednesday, March 28, 2007 at 13:04:22 (MDT)

Hi Alvis how it going with the ptsd claim I have ben up from 530 am tuesday & no sleep it had to do with that day in november 13 I learned that guy name that was the only one that lived that day & I stop & just called him got to call him to night after 5 & I was on the VIET NAM WALL sight & there some one selling KIA DOG TAGS & if there is I like to get my hands on him but first I am going back to make shore I hope not i was reading about a kid how got his FOTHER thing & there was no dog tags so he like to know how he could get them. Art
Arthur E Foster <tigerwatigerwatigerwe>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Wednesday, March 28, 2007 at 09:04:29 (MDT)

Judith, got the posters. Thanks.
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo,Tx, Tx USA - Wednesday, March 28, 2007 at 08:32:18 (MDT)

I am taking Susan to Cape Canaveral for the tour....its an hours drive from there.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, March 28, 2007 at 03:30:28 (MDT)

A couple of times we all went out to a restaurant and it seems like one time we ordered our own pizzas to the 129th hospitality room...............so, I guess we'll have to vote on it when we get there.
Gale
USA - Tuesday, March 27, 2007 at 16:38:19 (MDT)

Gale and all, Per my wife the travel agent, that particular Wyndam Hotel only has shuttles to Universal and Wet & Wild. However, Mears(local trans co)will provide a 15 passenger van at Taxi Rates. If All else fails I have my trusty SUV. Over the next coupla days I wiil get info on rates. Also City Walk @ Universal has many clubs but they charge a cover plus parking. Dennis
Dennis
Haines City, FL USA - Tuesday, March 27, 2007 at 16:24:39 (MDT)

Dennis, you think there might be a shuttle from our hotel? Lookin' forward to meeting you and your wife. Gale
Gale 67-68
USA - Tuesday, March 27, 2007 at 16:03:37 (MDT)

Just a thought for Friday night. If Not at Wink's, Why not the Atlantic Dance at Disney's Boardwalk. No Cover,good booze,and good music, plenty of parking in Boardwalk hotel parking lot, and best of all no crowd. What better place to hone drinking and dance skills prior to Saturday night. BTW, my reservation has been made at the hotel for Saturday and my wife Connie will be with me. I had planned on taking the week off but with the sudden job change plans had to change. Any Questions?? Dennis
Dennis Fuerstenau
Haines City, FL USA - Tuesday, March 27, 2007 at 13:39:22 (MDT)

Kim, Nice perspective on the "family" discussion. Personally, I've allways tried to keep the "fun" in "dysfuntional"!!! Seriously, problems adjusting, and family dysfuntion are all indications of PTSD. Those applying for disability should document them and include them in your claim. Best wishes, Greg
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Tuesday, March 27, 2007 at 12:48:31 (MDT)

Hey Kal, better not get Gently too upset with you. If I recall..................it's "YOUR TIME" to babysit her at Kokomo!!!!!!;o) If "Teddy Bear" show's up at Kokomo, he can do the babysitting! Paul, do you have our cookie order in yet for Kokomo? I wish more people could make it there this year. Gale
Gale 67-68
USA - Tuesday, March 27, 2007 at 10:59:46 (MDT)

Hey Wink, that sounds like a wise decision. I am sure that we will find a way to have a party anyway. Heck, as much as we party in the 129th room, it probably won't even matter. Gently,... I'd better be seing you there too, and don't tell me how undignified it is to get a little help, that what it is all about. Take care gang... C U L8r.. Kal...>>>
Kal 67/68 <N8AUU (a) EMAIL DOT COM....>
Saint Joseph, MI USA - Tuesday, March 27, 2007 at 09:22:47 (MDT)

Wink, that's "bummer", but, understood. We'll just have to party at the 129th room or go out for our own pizza party...........as long as we're all together!! Gale
Gale
USA - Tuesday, March 27, 2007 at 08:14:36 (MDT)

oh also, if anyone wants to stay a few days after the reunionyou are welcome to stay at my home. wink
wink
lake wales, fl USA - Tuesday, March 27, 2007 at 07:36:37 (MDT)

good morning flight. with regrets for disappointing all,i am going to cancell my party on friday the 22nd.my main reason for doing so is the traveling time from the hotel to my home. its an hour an 15 minute ride. to some that may not be long but with the extra traffic created from vacationeers. iknow it would be to much. also with the drinking during the party i dont want anyone to get in trouble on thier way back to the hotel, if youy know what i mean. ive looked into a charter bus an the cost is to much. as much as i would love to have you all here i must decline on my offer to have this gathering, with deep regrets.i hope all who have accepted an all who where thinking of doing so will understand why i have cancelled. wink 3/69-10/70
wink
lake wales, fl USA - Tuesday, March 27, 2007 at 07:33:32 (MDT)

it all rolls downhill only difference is color and texture
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Monday, March 26, 2007 at 17:26:19 (MDT)

HI all... I'm just getting caught up from being in sunny Florida. Spring training: college ball, Red Sox, twins......aahhhhhh spring!!! My take on fred3's outburst is this. The one thing any of us have in common is that we were in the same unit at one time or another. We come from all different walks of life, different backgrounds, political persuasions, geographical areas. To me, it makes no difference if one is a U.S. senator or a convicted axe murderer, ( maybe we can trust what the murderer says?) we have the one thing in common, the 129th. I don't think anyone who posts here is doing so in hopes of attaining sainthood. I'd wager that most of us, (Judith excepted),at some point have stayed too long when we should have left, left when we should have stayed, screamed epithets when we should have begged. To me, it makes no difference. In here, we're members of the 129th. Nothing can change that!
Kim
USA - Monday, March 26, 2007 at 15:49:18 (MDT)

Teddy bear:>)))) and teddy bears' "Special" friend:>)))....Seems like Rick's wife has more to worry about than little ole me! L-Gently
Gently
USA - Monday, March 26, 2007 at 10:50:20 (MDT)

Goodmorning Flight: Fred S. Always will be a Buckeye!!! And alot of us in the area of Memphis. Memphis played alot better than I thought they would. They are supposed to even a better team next year. Ohio breeds football and basketball. Could see a rerun next year. Bill good to see book is coming along. Fred III, all I would like to say this. Alot of vietnam vet's children are in the same situation as you. I am far from making excuses. 72 hours after leaving the battlefield. We were walking the streets of the USA. We had a hard time adjusting to civilian life. We were lookesd down on by our peers. Most of us eventually lost our wives and children. It's something we will always regret. As combat soldier we have tried to move forward and make some kind of life. And, believe me it's been hard. Here we can get support from our Brothers. You might think I am blowing hot air. But, my children were in the same position as you. And, it's been hard everytime I think about missing Birthdays, Christmas etc. Fred III I hope you never walk in our shoes. And, one day before you Dad passes on that you can be able to talk to one another. Were not looking for forgiveness but, understanding. My son attended the Atlanta reunion. 30 years since I seen him. But, after talking to the Vietnam vets at the reunion. He understood some of the problems I had and why his mom and I were divorced. At, least we are speaking terms now. Well, Flight will see you all in Orlando. always A brother!!
Alex
USA - Monday, March 26, 2007 at 07:47:18 (MDT)

"Shit rolled downhill" in Calley`s case......
Fred Skaggs
NJ USA - Sunday, March 25, 2007 at 20:51:15 (MDT)

39 years ago, and 9 days...Lt. Calley and Captian Madina entered a small village.The rest is history
alvis
USA - Sunday, March 25, 2007 at 19:51:03 (MDT)

wasnt on tonight either.
alvis
USA - Sunday, March 25, 2007 at 17:26:00 (MDT)

wasnt on there tonight. will look tomorrow. Great looking page Bill.
alvis
USA - Saturday, March 24, 2007 at 18:14:26 (MDT)

BOOK INFO: You can also keep up to date on the book at: http://www.wolfcms.com/book.html I'll try to keep this site up to date. Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Saturday, March 24, 2007 at 16:15:06 (MDT)

Hi all! Well, have been on the road and just got back last night around 11pm (had the trip from hell thanks to US Airways!!) and leave again Monday. BOOK UPDATE: Please keep in mind that March 31st is the absolute deadline for any last submissions. After that date I will be finalizing the manuscript and sending it off to Bill Whelan for printing. I think I'm going to have 300 printed instead of 200 because of the feedback I've been getting. I'm sorry I don't have a price yet, but will let everyone know as soon as Bill and I know. Basically, we are going to charge the cost of printing and mailing and add about $5.00 to each book to go to the 129th Xmas fund. I'll keep you all updated!!! Bill Wolf
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Saturday, March 24, 2007 at 14:14:40 (MDT)

Upper Sandusky lost to Dayton Dunbar 87-85...They broke Jon Deibler`s nose in the first quarter and the kid still scored 48 points.....Greg....North Carolina is the reason they put the shot clock in college basketball.....Boone, N.C. is a nice area and great school. I know a guy who did his undergrad at App. State, and went to Boston College Law. He`s a JAG at Ft.Campbell,Ky.......Ohio State`s Thad Matta played and coach at Butler.....
Fred Skaggs
NJ USA - Saturday, March 24, 2007 at 14:05:34 (MDT)

ABC news update...from Simon....Don't forget there might be a cut down of your visit on ABC World News Saturday today (6.30 your time). If not this evening then it might be tomorrow night, which I think is 5.30. I've not been able to get confirmation from my contact at ABC as she was off thursday and Friday.
alvis
USA - Saturday, March 24, 2007 at 11:37:50 (MDT)

Animal. "Happy Appy", beauifull scenery on Blue Ridge Park Way.
J. W. Wilson
Kinston , N. C. USA - Saturday, March 24, 2007 at 11:35:42 (MDT)

Remember way back before college basketball had a shot clock? The 4-corner stall perfected by North Carolina to protect a lead? Where I went to school at the time (Appalachian State) the team was so bad that whenever we'd score the first basket of the game and lead 2-0, the home crowd would start chanting "STALL"..."STALL"..."STALL"......
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Saturday, March 24, 2007 at 10:32:02 (MDT)

Fred S, I hated to see Butler get beat too. Ohio State should be pumped up after that comeback the other night.........they'll be hard to beat. Gale
Gale
USA - Saturday, March 24, 2007 at 10:03:27 (MDT)

Well Ohio State plays this afternoon for a "Final Four" berth in basketball and My wife`s high school( Upper Sandusky ) plays for the Div.II basketball championship...Jon Deibler their star player is leading the United States H.S. basketball in scoring 41.2 PPG...They play Dayton Dunbar....Country boys against the Big City boys.......It`s been 45 years since Ohio State had a legit "Final Four" team......Alex...I KNOW you`re gonna pull for Ohio State to beat the U. Of Memphis.......I hated to see Butler get beat by Florida last night.
Fred Skaggs
NJ USA - Saturday, March 24, 2007 at 09:35:42 (MDT)

Got the Poster Sweety, It's greaaat thanks>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
sheridan, wy USA - Saturday, March 24, 2007 at 08:58:43 (MDT)

Good Morning Flight. Judith,thanks for the comeback. I haven't recieved Them yet. Hopefully they'll get here shortly. Dawg 426 is Otta here.
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo, Tx USA - Saturday, March 24, 2007 at 08:05:20 (MDT)

Gale, I thought it was secret.
Rick
USA - Saturday, March 24, 2007 at 07:22:34 (MDT)

Rick, I thought I was the "only" one that called you teddy bear!! hehheheehhehehhhhee...............Gale
Gale
USA - Friday, March 23, 2007 at 22:27:09 (MDT)

Hi every one lets talk about renion I got some things to bring it my first one & looking to see every one there & think about RAY he got that scope on april 5 th & I have to put the slids on cd to bring with me O the WIFE to she wont let me drive that far in here new truck & we dont nead a map the on star is nice the truck has a lot of button on it still havent found the one for the toilet paper & Scooter is groing like a weed & not the kind you smoke & I have to tell you all this is the best sight on the web & we got Tammy a cell phone so if some thing to her car she can call us & we are going to put ICE on it so if she cant talk to the resco truck they can just push ICE & it will call us but with GOD watching over them they will never use it & you GUY are the best bunch of stinger dragers there is. ArtA BROTHER
Arthur E Foster <tigerwagon@msn.com>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Friday, March 23, 2007 at 20:27:37 (MDT)

Gently if poosible iwould like to get one more poster. My wif3 thinks your my girlfriend because you call me teddy bear. She wants to see you in orlando. hehehehehehehe You better be there to straighten this out. hehehehehehe flight be careful out there
Rick Enlgnad
USA - Friday, March 23, 2007 at 20:05:07 (MDT)

HI TO ALL HOW ARE YOU ALL DOING ..IAM THE SAME BUT ON SO ANY PAIN PILLS I CANT NOTICE IT. AT LEAST IAM UP' GENTLY DID YOU GET MY CHECK FOR 10$ YET. BILL DID YOU GET THE PIC YET,, I ALSO LEFT YOU A MESSAGE IN YOU HOME PHOME OK I TRY CALLING YOU MONDAY THIS IS IMPORANT TO MO ME AS YOU WILL SEE WHEN YOU LISTEN. I DONT EVEN WANT GAIL TO KNOW I TOLD AMY ONE JUST A FEW GOOD FRIENDS BY PHONE ONLY HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THANKS IAM TRYING TO HELP HIM WELL GOT TO GO THANKS I CALL YOU MONDAY ANY SPECIAAL TIME E MAIL OK KAL NIVE TALKING TO YOU TODAY GOT TO GOYOU ALL TAKE CARE.. HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL IN ORLANDO A BROTHER ALWAYS RAY BE SAFE YOUALL MEAN A LOT TO ME YOU ALL HELPED ME ALOT THANKS
RAY
MD USA - Friday, March 23, 2007 at 14:11:59 (MDT)

Bruno! No! I mailed the first group(your group) of posters out 10-14 days ago. The second group went out last Monday. If you don't get it within the next several days, let me know and I will send another. I ripped off your address label from the envelope and used it as your mailing label......I wonder if someone at the post office screwed up....you know how those postal workers are. LOL!!! Love you Retro man:>))) our Postal Man:>)))) Anyway Bruno, let me know if you don't get it soon and I'll take care of it for you. Did you order one or 2...never mind I still have your check and I can just look at it. If anyone else hasn't gotten theirs, let me know. Everybody else of the 129th doing OK? Ray...we're still praying for ya... A special "hi" to our movie stars:>)) loving ya-Gently
Gently
USA - Friday, March 23, 2007 at 13:50:20 (MDT)

Good Morning flight.Judith were you able to mail the posters?? Thanks Bernie Hernandez: Bro if'in you log in. Please call me. I've got "a" wrong phone number for ya. Bill Shilleto "check In"!!!!!Where are ya???
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo , Tx USA - Friday, March 23, 2007 at 09:55:53 (MDT)

to sum it all up, little was known about PTSD if anything, 40 yrs ago.PTSD was called a number of things an generally egnored by the powers to be.today because of few dedicated, {sorry about the spelling} doctors, we now know the causeof our problems through out life.it's easy to say and look back on our lives an say , so that has been whats been my problem all this time.but at the time,40 yrs. ago, nothing was known about PTSD, an too live with this was frustrating, to say the list.i for one have made alot of mistakes in my life an hurt a lot of people an regret it all an i can only hope that the ones i hurt can have the understanding to forgive me.an lose who can not forgive i pray that they can forget, as in your case fred III FOR IF YOU CANNOT IT WILL EAT YOU UP INSIDE YOU AS IT IS DOING KNOW.AND IN TIME YOU MIGHT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES IN LIFE THAT YOUR FATHER HAS MADE. LEARN FROM HIS MISTAKES. I KNOW THIS TO BE TRUE BECAUSE MY TWO SONS AN DAUGHTERS HAVE AN ARE STILL LEARNING FROM THE MISTAKES I HAVE MADE IN MY LIFE TIM, AN THEY ARE BETTER FOR IT.FREDIII, I ONLY HOPE ONE YOU CAN FORGIVE YOUR DAD ONE DAY. WINK 3-69 10-70
wink
lake wales, fl USA - Friday, March 23, 2007 at 08:50:36 (MDT)

I think we all had a similar life after Vietnam and our sons, daughters, and wife have what they call echoe PTSD. I agree with Ken Strong. Being in the groups and one on one have helped the families and us understand life after Vietnam, but they will never understand the life before. Flight be careful out there
Rick England
USA - Friday, March 23, 2007 at 03:54:34 (MDT)

He always signed it Fred III...Freudian? L-Gently
Gently
USA - Thursday, March 22, 2007 at 15:16:23 (MDT)

Alvis and all my brothers. I started reading the log last night and had to stop for a brake. I know my problems started within a couple weeks of getting back home. Than I made mistakes with my sons & ex wife too. It wasn't till I started going to PTSD groups that I could see myself and the rest of us as a whole. To the son, I wish you would take time and try to understand your father. As the purpose of the site is to help heal and understand what we went through. Our children probably need to read this to understand ourselves plus themselves. My sons had it hard but I feel are better for it.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Thursday, March 22, 2007 at 14:14:41 (MDT)

Fred, I hurt for you man, i wish there were something i could do to help, I went through some of what you went through with you & as Bill said " they will never know". It is inappropriate to air that stuff here (Fred 3) & should be kept personal. This is a site for healing not hurting. >> Respects to all>>> Smitty (CE with Fred A).
Jim Westwang 71-72
Sheridan, wy USA - Thursday, March 22, 2007 at 11:54:54 (MDT)

Have been traveling the last week and just got a chance to visit the Log Book while waiting in yet another airport. I found Alvis III's postings interesting. I agree somewhat that this is not really the place for posting that - I"m sure an email to the appropriate person would have been sufficient. When I was "brought into the fold" by Mark and discovered this site it gave me a chance to reconnect with those who shared a one-year (or more) unique experience - combat. (War is Hell....but actual combat is a son-of-a-bitch). Like M from Texas, I grew up with out a father - he abandoned our family when I was two. I had all the emotions about that over the years, sadness, loneliness, anger. But I grew and matured and learned to store those in appropriate places. I feel blessed that any PTSD in me was extremely minimal - probably a good think cause I ended up as a cop for 27 years. It's funny to think back to when I was 30 - even forty. I thought i had experienced it all and knew it all. Imagine what we/I thought at 25!!!! A wise man said that "Its what you learn after you know it all that makes you wise." Good words. Fred is a good friend, a fellow comrade who served his country when they didn't want to serve him. I honor him for that. I wouldn't presume to give Fred III any advice other than what I've shared. This site is truly a blessing (thank you Mark!) and I hope we all continue to post here and stay connected here. Few people today understand just what we did in that far away place and what we endured. God bless you all!!! Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Thursday, March 22, 2007 at 11:01:58 (MDT)

It saddens me to see this stuff here. This site isn't about that. I grew up without a father. He served in the Navy during Vietnam in AU. The last time I heard from him was about 11 or so years ago. He is mentally insane with more than one ailment. Including paranoid schizophrenia. He has done allot to my family, esp. my older brother. My parents divorced before I was born. I have plenty to be angry with him over. I could easily hate him and be as bitter as you are but I'm not. I couldn't even begin to understand both sides. My mother has never taught me to hate him like some parents often do. I also have seen what PTSD can do to people. I watched my uncle try to kill himself in many different ways. His choice was drugs and alcohol. It killed him eventually. He could never be without a radio or tv on, up until the days before his death...His dreams and flashbacks were to horrible to live with without noise to try and cover them up. My grandpa is a recovering alcoholic. PTSD eats away at a person from the inside. When Vietnam vets came home they were treated like crap and given no kind of mental health attention. They were pretty much told to suck it up and be a man. They dealt with it as they could and can. You may have a right to be angry but I doubt you are perfect either. I hope some day you can get over your bitterness because it hurts you more than anyone else.
M
TX USA - Wednesday, March 21, 2007 at 22:37:56 (MDT)

next time ,please get the facts right.Also,you will never know my side of the story.Its none of your business.I told you before,I will NOT say anything bad about your mother.Your brother,and I,have both ask you NOT to come in here with dirty laundry..You show a remarkable lack of respect for those in here.Your angry,filth riden e mails to me are one thing.Character assassination ,when you dont know the person nor the full facts, is usually seen for what it is.I ask the rest of you,to disreguard any more remarks made by this son. he has came in here before,spewing the same,a few years ago.His anger should be directed towards me,to me,not in here. His anger is justified,but this is the wrong place and he knows it.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, March 21, 2007 at 16:22:06 (MDT)

Brothers and sisters I have lost my connection to e-mail. If someone can do it I can. hehehehehe. I believe this is the only group we have an our family needs to talk this out I wish my son and daughter would come on here and say what they feel. I am not sticking up for anybody. Sometimes I feel things need to be said. for one reason or another. We are diffrent and do things nobody else says or does in front of others. This is what we have. All of my friends are brothers of combat or vetreans. My kids and wife do not hold back on me if they have something to say even if it hurts. This is another step in my disorder. Just like in dances with wolves "That is all I have to say" Be careful out there
Rick England
USA - Wednesday, March 21, 2007 at 06:27:03 (MDT)

I wasn't going to post any further comments here but I wanted to respond to Animal. I don't know you or your family but I have geniune respect for what you are saying. I don't want to say this as if it applies to your situation, but personally I have often thought to myself that if I could change the way things played out, I would NOT. Precisely because in the end I benefited by being raised by a caring and wonderful mother and was shielded from whatever it is that has driven my father down the path he has travelled. It was perhaps very fortunate for me. You seem to deeply care, so I apologize to you if I have struck a nerve. I sincerely wish you and your family the best of luck......... To those who wonder "why" or asked "what do you want from us" - maybe I wanted to give something, not take. I wanted to give you a very different perspective. Maybe I just want to call some of the bull and I want to point out to those who so quickly and easily say "hindsight is 20/20" that the benefit of 20/20 hindsight is that it allows us to make different choices going forward. If a person is unwilling to do that, then it is a cop-out to excuse it that way. I know that my words will have meaning to some who read here because I have seen veterans posting similar sentiments - sometimes very angrily. Maybe it will even make someone out there rethink things in a way that helps them. (this will be my final post)
Fred Alvis III
Philippines - Wednesday, March 21, 2007 at 05:00:19 (MDT)

hope you feel better now. By the way..I did hold you. you were to young to remember.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, March 21, 2007 at 04:27:20 (MDT)

Fred III, If you would like honest and truthful insight on the person you have written about please email me. A person who knows very well.
q <someone0908@yahoo.com>
USA - Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 19:13:25 (MDT)

animal; very interesting thoughts on the subject.obviously you have thought about it long before today.i think maybe i should sit down and talk it over with my kids and see what they have to say. thanks for the different opinion
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 18:59:36 (MDT)

There some that just dont know whot happen to us over there & like other sead we are trying to do things wright but some time it does not work that way we are BROTHER FOR EVER & GLAD TO BE ONE Art 68 71
Arthur E Foster <tigerwagon@msn.com>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 18:33:15 (MDT)

Fred III, I am not going to sit here and try to make a Saint out of your father nor am I going to try to make a devil out of him, nor the same thing out of you. all I have to say on the matter is: walk a mile in his shoes (spend your time in combat) take in all the good that comes out of it and weigh it against the bad that comes out of it. see how you handle it. I pray you do a better job at it than some of us in here have done. but remember we ALL handle our DEMONS in the best way we can. and we ALL handle them differently. so if you go, I hope you come home in one piece so the ghosts that haunt you upon your return don't have help reminding you of what you have been thru by you having to strap on an artificial limb every morning before you start the daily fight to remain somewhat sane. Later, Don
Don Miller
USA - Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 17:59:46 (MDT)

Fred III, This thread you've opened up has been one of the most thought provoking and relevent topics we've ever discussed on this site. "How are the offspring of war veterans affected?" You've suffered abandonment. Others have suffered the opposite, having to live with the alcoholism, drug abuse, neglect, violence and other symptoms associated with PTSD. I am presently trying to undue the damage to my own children; Not from being apart from me, but from being exposed to my behaviors. People with PTSD are typically not only carriers, but providers to those closest to them. I have often wondered if my kids would have been better off without my influence. Now that I'm in treatment, I'm glad I've managed to hold it together and stick around. There's a long and bumpy way to go, but I feel that at least my family and I are moving in the right direction. A person doesn't feel the benefits of forgiveness until after it's been given, and one day of forgiveness is worth thirty years of waiting for a disease/sickness/syndrome to go away. You and your brother seem to be doing OK despite hard circumstances,and I respect you for it. As far as the body armor issue; hey, I voted for Nader, if it wasn't for him our guys would probably be driving Corvairs over there.(LOL) Best wishes to father and sons, Greg
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 17:29:31 (MDT)

Dave Powers, yea I was the only grand-child on both sides of my family that was in the Armed Forces....all my male cousins went to college or was too young. So I had 14 Aunts and Uncles and My Mother and her friends sending me stuff.....I use to give away alot goodies....like sweets. They packed that stuff tight, so rarely did I have problems of stuff getting smashed.....Plus my mom`s cook at the bar, Big Betty, both her sons had been in Nam in the 60`s. So she knew how to send stuff, without it getting smashed.
Fred Skaggs
NJ USA - Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 16:03:14 (MDT)

i have more to say but i'll bite my tongue.i will say that i won't buy my stepson body armor if or when he goes. nor would i if he was my son.
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 15:08:58 (MDT)

Fred Alvis III, I`m the guy who is alumni of USC (CSU-P), I lived in Pueblo West,Colorado, when they were building the lake out there. I`m from a single parent family also, so I uderstand some of your feelings......I know your posting is gonna make you feel better......but it`s not going to change things. It is what it is and you have moved on and become a better person because of your experiences. My advice is to keep on moving forward with your life and never live in the past. You got your undergrad, keep going and get your Masters and PHD. Fred III, I`m not a "role model" myself, I never had any off-spring.....because I was selfish in some ways and made alot of self-centered choices in life......You`re still a young man, and you will learn......Life isn`t always fair.
Fred Skaggs
NJ USA - Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 14:33:15 (MDT)

Fred A III, I'm sure that you are a fine young man and your pain is real. Believe me, I don't want to hurt you or belittle you or your thoughts. What do you expect when you post on a site like this? It may make you feel good to hurt him some ,but, why here..............what do you want from us? As I said before, things like this should be discussed privately. We all have our problems and I wouldn't want anyone from my past logging on here to bring up any ghosts of my past or present.(not that there is any, of course) Sorry if I'm not getting your drift of things. Respectively, Gale
Gale
USA - Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 13:28:49 (MDT)

Paul, I don't want to make a habit of responding to every post here and I'm sure you would like what I have said to go away as soon as possible. Its three in the morning here so this will be my last one. "Hindsight is 20/20" is a pretty crappy whitewash treatment to decisions that have been made in the last 24 hours but are being excused by third parties as if they happened the full 30 years ago. Guess what, if he wanted to, he could suck it up and act like a man right now. He wont. That is called foresight not hindsight. Ask him if he'll contribute to some armor for my brother (who has never posted on this site or said a discouraging word against him). You won't do that - again its called foresight
Fred Alvis III
Philippines - Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 13:09:19 (MDT)

FRed alvis 3; Animal and Gale have said about all that needs to be said.please don't take this wrong but you weren't standing in your fathers shoes when these decisions were made so you don't really have a whole lot of right to second guess. everybody has 20/20 hindsight. alot of us have done things that we are not proud of,you will also,we need to forgive the tresspasses of everyone as we hope to be forgiven one day ourselves.i'm sorry that you seem to be so angry,that you felt doing this was necessary.the anger will subside as time passes.i hope that one day you learn how to forgive yuor father and your self." everybody's got something to hide 'cept for me and my monkey"
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 13:00:56 (MDT)

Gale, You have missed a vital element to my analysis. I'm not merely listing skeletons from the closet or airing dirty laundry. Much of what I have witnessed is in the present - I simply wasn't there to judge the past. Measure things the way you want to, thats up to you. You are not his son and likewise, I am not his perfect stranger posting from a website with the sole mission of excusing his every deed. Everything I have mentioned in my post regards my own measurements. If you won't be divided, that is no loss to me as it is not my goal. Although I am quite certain that your opinion of him is of far greater importance to him than mine, it is not my concern. I might say that you missed something far more relevent beyond that - there is more to life beyond your standing in the 129th ahc. Whether you stand united with him has no relevence to me but I'm sorry that you couldn't take anything meaningful from what I tried to say. Animal, I genuinely appreciate your thoughtful response. I can't agree with your implication that there is any regret or struggle for improvement when specifically applied to our circumstance. As an aside, I am not a stranger to dealing with tough psychological issues in which blame can not be simply rested upon a single person's shoulders. Later in life my mother was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. Following an attempt to kill my brother and I, I lived in an orphanage separate from my family until the age of 17. Sporatically living on the streets, I met men and made friends of men who suffered from actually debilitating PTSD. You know, the kind of people who walk down the street ringing a bell and saying "the end is nigh". After reaching legal adulthood, I have cared for my mother and stood by her - staying awake until dawn more than once to protect her from what are called "accute psychotic episodes" in which the sufferer can not be dealt with in any rational manner. I have very personally felt the helplessness against mental illness that definitively derails a person's ability to function as a rational adult. In the end, to lump a series of choices over 30 years (and a continued unwillingness to make better choices) into a single convenient excuse for a man who is married, successfully holds a job, and has little trouble managing the aspects of his life that he cares about is not only distasteful, but down right disrespectful. It is a mockery to those I have known and cared about who really could not by their own will function in spite of an affliction.
Fred Alvis III
Philippines - Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 12:53:59 (MDT)

Fred III, You certainly have your father's gift of prose. I can't speak for Fred, but I can certainly verify some of your statements. I both flew with your dad, and flew a different ship on the same missions with him. No matter what the circumstance of his enlistment, or his separation, he served his country honorably in war. I can also verify (from his contributions here, and my own personal experience) that he has severe PTSD. Another of your statements that ring true is the fact that this site is a drug, (read:medication),for not only Fred, but many of us. We have all done things we regret. We are all struggling to become "normal" productive, citizens and family men. The important thing is that we continue to struggle to improve,and not give up, like so many of our brethren have. I'm hoping that Fred keeps working towards containing and funtioning with PTSD (I don't think there's a "cure".) I also sincerely hope that you don't give up, as forgiveness is it's own reward. Best wishes, Greg Henkel
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 11:59:25 (MDT)

Once again..............on this site we don't measure each other by our past and we don't appreciate anyone hanging out "dirty laundry" on this site. These matters should be handled privately and it's none of our concern. We are brothers and sisters of the 129th AHC and nothing will divide us...........not race, religion, voices from the past or politics ( well, I'm not sure 'bout politics ):o). This site is for brothers-in-arms to find healing and 129th buddies................not to judge. Luv ya Fred. Always a brother! Gale
Gale 67-68
Clinton, In USA - Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 11:55:41 (MDT)

I saw below that Fred Alvis posted a lovely message from the children of vietnam vets. I have a message too as the son of a vietnam veteran that has some special significance to this website. You see, a couple years ago, I entered my name into google to see what kind of information was floating around out there about me. What I had not considered is that I share my name with my father whom I had never met. Imagine my surprise when "129th.net" came up in the search results and there was a man posting there with my name who was sharing stories remarkably similar to my father's past. It was no coincidence; the man was my father. Through some extraordinary coincidence I had accidently stumbled upon a man who had been missing for my entire life. This was a curious thing to stumble into so unexpectedly. My father had abandonded my pregnant mother and their very young son 25 years ago. This was a man who had never bothered to contribute anything to his sons or his struggling abandonded wife. Neither money, nor fatherly advice, nor a simple phone call, nor even a post card. In fact, he had threatened my mother that he would kill her if she ever tried to find him. So you can understand my mixed emotions when discovering him. Should I make contact with him or just forget him as I had already easily done in his absence? Even though I could have done that, I also wanted some answers. Honestly, I also wanted to tell him how poorly I thought of him. I really wanted for him to have some good reason for doing what he had done. Most of all, I wanted to be able to have some semblance of respect for him. So now, several years later, I have learned more about him and his side of the story. I have sent him both angry letters and hopeful and positive letters. I have after these years finally learned a few of the things that only he can describe about his experiences and I have learned there are things he probably can not describe. He connects most of his life to vietnam, especially his mistakes. He speaks of demons battled from within. He speaks of PTSD. What do I think of this man now? Well, I can tell you that his son, my older brother was married this week. My father could not tell you that, he wouldn't know it. He couldn't tell you where the wedding was, or maybe even the bride's name. One of the men posting here once mentioned that you were an alumni of the University of Southern Colorado and asked him if it was the school his son was attending. In fact I and my brother are both graduates of USC(recently renamed CSU-P). The reason he never replied is because to this day, he does not know nor care. Furthermore, it was seriously distracting him from doing what he loves - bragging about his experience in vietnam. I can tell you that his son is now a 2nd Lt in the US army. He couldn't tell you that either because although he could have asked, he never had much interest in it. I told him about it, but he was very much more concerned with changing the subject to videos of himself on youtube. I have a half brother from another abandoned family who he can not possibly assist me in finding because he has no interest in them either. After 30 years, and armed with many excuses for past mistakes, would he now be willing to chip in for some armor to protect a son should he be going to Iraq? Not a dollar. **Not even a cent**. This is a son whose picture I believe is actually on 129th.net. He had "129 AHC" written on a bomb that was going to be dropped on Iraq while he was serving in the navy. My father was intensely interested in the glory bragging of having a son serving, but nothing beyond that. What I have found is that the man has not changed. If you subtract 30 years, even if you subtract vietnam as an excuse for his problems, you will have the same man remaining. Minus 30 years and some bragging rights, you would have a scared little boy. This is what you would find if you looked at the "man" my father is today. What I have learned is that to at least one man, this website is very significant. Its importance is paramount - it is his drug. A dope that he takes daily before tuning out the rest of the world. Even before this website he would love to brag to his friends about his experiences, but it was never this good. Never so good as to allow the man to envelop himself completely in his past glory. That is very important since his reminiscence is his only means of defining some importance to a life spent reminiscing. You don't have to know him very well to believe it. You can see from his picture that he hasn't stopped talking about vietnam long enough to get a shave and a haircut in over 30 years. His beard is literally older than I am! For a man who never wanted to serve in vietnam, who was given the choice between the army and jail (although now he has changed his story to being drafted), who served his time as quickly as he could and got out with less than an honorable discharge, reminding people that he served is his solitary goal in life. Bragging about his experiences in one breath while complaining of PTSD in the other is his only satisfaction. This website is very important to more than just him and I. Obviously, it has been tremendously valuable to many of you and created the opportunity to reunite a brotherhood. Unfortunately, for at least one man, it also feeds a sickness. A sickness as real as any life-consuming drug addiction. You have one life to live and you do as much as you can with it despite what is thrust upon you. Many men, vietnam veterans or not, including many of the people posting here have achieved great things in their lives above and beyond the incredible sacrifice of serving their country. In one case, another has chosen to make it his last and only significant deed. In the end, his life will be measured accordingly, no matter how fiercely he exaggerates the importance of his single notable accomplishment. This is my final analysis of a father who I have never met but given every opportunity of redemption to - a man who I will now forget as easily as I had before accidently finding him on this website. This is MY message as a child of a vietnam veteran.
Fred Alvis III
philippines - Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 10:52:13 (MDT)

Fred S. - The French influence certainly makes sense, for many things we saw over there... architecture, food, language. You must have had MANY care packages from home! I got one once from my mom packed with chocolate chip cookies... trouble is I had to eat them with a spoon after the care package had traveled 10,000 miles and the cookies were pulverized! I enjoyed Slim Jims and canned pudding.
Dave Powers
USA - Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 10:48:37 (MDT)

Btw....I rarely ate at the mess-hall...except to get some fruit..or Xmas and Thanksgiving. My family would sent me a "care package" with Beenie-Weenies and Potted Ham twice a month...all kinds of goodies. Ritz and Cheese crackers......I had a refrig and always had it stocked with Grape Soda`s....And I could always find some dehydrated LRPS rations.....Chili and rice was a killer meal after you were hammered.
Fred Skaggs
NJ USA - Monday, March 19, 2007 at 18:42:23 (MDT)

Dave P. In Holland and Belgium and France, the egg on the hamburger is pretty common in your nicer restaurants....Quick Burger(European McDonalds) serve them normal. The egg and burger thing was the French influence of the Vietnamese people. One by-product of French missionary occupation in Vietnam was influence on Vietnamese meals and food. It would be common to see such items as asparagus, white potato and French bread on menus, especially in the south, where French influence was greatest. A typical breakfast would often consist of a baguette, yoghurt and orange juice, all typical French items.
Fred Skaggs
NJ USA - Monday, March 19, 2007 at 18:26:24 (MDT)

Does anyone remember in '71 the Vietnamese girl who worked in the PX, who had a little "sixth" finger growing along side one of her pinkies? Who could forget the famous "Nam Burger" (fried egg on a burger patty)? One dollar, as I recall at the EM club. Served with the tradition warm Schlitz... hard to beat, unless it was a ham and limas with a Coke.
Dave Powers
USA - Monday, March 19, 2007 at 16:51:24 (MDT)

animal;now that you mention it my ration card was all punched out also as i was only 18 when i was in country
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Monday, March 19, 2007 at 16:15:20 (MDT)

Paul, I remember the PX. It was down towards the 61st somewhere. I had to buy our flight lead (Rebel) his whiskey there, because he wasn't 21 and they punched out all the liquer spots on his ration card! Go Figure!, Greg
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Sunday, March 18, 2007 at 18:32:16 (MDT)

thanks gale and dennis; i don't think i ever went over the hill so i can understand why i don't remember it. see ya in kokomo
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Sunday, March 18, 2007 at 18:23:14 (MDT)

Paul, the PX was on the other side of the hill on the left just below the church. A little farther past that was the EM Club. I tended bar at the EM til I made E-5, then spent my time at the NCO Club eating "eggburgers" and drinkin' beer.............it became a ritual!!
Gale
USA - Sunday, March 18, 2007 at 08:37:46 (MDT)

I remember a small px on the down side of the hill behind the EM club and across for Battalion HQ. I have been in contact with Barry, and will make it to his house on Friday and to the Hotel with my wife on Saturday. However, If anybody knows, has anybody heard from Tom Pederson lately?? Tom if you read this contact me at the email Addy listed in Contacts
Dennis Fuerstenau
Haines City, FL USA - Sunday, March 18, 2007 at 07:44:57 (MDT)

>> doesnt remember a PX at Lane. chapel,yes, EM club,yes,mess hall,yes..the "steak house" across the bridge,at the front gate,yes.
alvis
USA - Sunday, March 18, 2007 at 06:56:13 (MDT)

gale; yes was there one there? i don't remember anything about it.the only place on lane that i remember spending any money was at the 498th em club. was there a px
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 22:02:14 (MDT)

Paul, are you refering to the PX?
Gale
USA - Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 21:53:43 (MDT)

hello flight; does anybody remember if there was an exchange on lane during the time period of 69-70. have run into a person who says he was assigned to 498th and after he lost flight status due to high blood pressure,his job was running the exchange till jan 70. i don't remember an exchange but then i don't remember a mess hall either.he said it had something to do with running it out of a converted 196th chinook if i remember what he said correctly. he said he knew some people from 129th also. his name is james van horn in case anybody remembers him. see ya all in kokomo paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 20:55:12 (MDT)

Gale, I used to go there a lot till a dotor stopped my Prozac & Morphine at the same time lasy spring. I still go to see doctor Owen there for acupuncture & having my back adjusted. It is still a better drive from here than Indy, but am trying to get someone to work on my back. Last time I talked to a doctor about a procedure in Indy and when I showed up to get two doctors not speaking good English. What is this country coming too? Oh bye the way, has anyone dealt with Dish Network? We have been trying to get things straight with them for over a month & 90% of the ones on the phone don't speak English.
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 11:45:21 (MDT)

Hello Alex was reading the Flight Log when I saw you had been talking to Ray Foley, I have been trying to get in touck with Ray, but lost his phone number, if you can e-mail me his number or have hin call me a 704-325-0142. How are you doing, hope everything is going good for you. The last time I talked to you were having trouble with your feet, hope this is taken care of and you are doing ok. Have been trying to get some bennies from VA, but you know how that goes. Well I will go for now thanks for any help you can give me. Roger
ROGER L CRESS <CRER1945@YAHOO.COM>
NEWTON , NC USA - Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 11:27:40 (MDT)

Hi Alvis I know what you are going throw & just let them know how bad it is & dont hold eany thing back they think if you can hold it you are all wright & tell them how it eating you up in side & you have a hard time sleeping & take care brother Art 68to71
Arthur E Foster <tigerwagon@msn.com>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Friday, March 16, 2007 at 17:32:36 (MDT)

just heard form Simon. Flight,its going to be on ABC,here in this country.Here is the E-mail....I am sure he wont mind me sharing it.......Fred, I have some good news. I've just spoken to my contact at ABC in London and plans are afoot to re-edit the material we broadcast on Inside Out in February. At the moment it is planned to be transmitted either Saturday 24th or Sunday 25th of March. It will be on News Saturday/Sunday which is anchored by Dan Harris. I am sending to London a transcription of the interview with the three of you just in case they want a little more of the three of you talking. It will be re-written and re-voiced by their own correspondent Nick Watts. They also plan on sending over the script for the intro which will contain a reference to the fact that Phil is in 'dispute' with the CAA over the US Army markings and that you the vets are helping in the quest for the letter of dispensation. They have also asked if they can have the contact details for the three of you so that if they want to they could talk to you aswell. Also requested are photos of you and Ron in Vietnam, so with your permission I'll send them one or two that the both of you gave us. Fingers crossed this might be the push and gear change we have been waiting for. Hope you and the family are all well. Will try and catch up with you over the weekend.
alvis
USA - Friday, March 16, 2007 at 15:14:32 (MDT)

ok guys,I am going to try,once again,for a ptsd rating. I am going to need stressor letters from anyone that remembers any of the following. (dennis?) when we almost went down west of Tuy Hoa,,remember you calling out the may-days.Anyone with me when we found the crashed civilian aircraft on top of Quin Hon mountian, the bodies ripped apart like rag dolls. The CA where the ROKs ran DOWN the hill,straight into the rotor blades of the pick up bird.We were flying C&C that day...the ship crashed and rolled the rest of the way down the hill.We flew out the ROK injured.Dont know who picked up the dead. Anyone with me when we had a CA (ROK) one day,then flew back in the next day with replacement troops..and we got stuck flying out a floor full of dead ROKs in body bags? This was all between july of 71 and dec of 71.Cant remember more,anyway,I have ask also in the 60th ahc site,i spent 7 months with them. Trouble is,that site is VERY rarely visted as we were only a unit for about 1 year and some change.Thanks,F.Alvis
alvis
USA - Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 18:08:14 (MDT)

congrads on the new job
alvis
USA - Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 17:45:14 (MDT)

Greetings All, Have just survived the setback of being with a company for 7 long years and then called in and told my position(Safety Director)had been eliminated. I was at my wits end, when you are our age where do you find another job. After about 2 months of no leads and the savings account about to dry out, I was ready to climb back into somebodys Semi and Drive crosscountry again. When suddenly on the day I was at my lowest, I got a call from a Company President who I had done some business with in the distant past. Long story short, within less than an hour We were in salary discussion with me as his new Driver Manager. Moving on, Barry don't you read your email?,I even tried to call you but no answer. Email, dpfirst50*hotmail*com or call me @602-4043 same area code as yours. I need to get some times from you as my time off is very limited and I need to discuss things with you, in regards to the Reunion. Dennis
Dennis Fuerstenau
Haines City, FL USA - Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 17:26:48 (MDT)

hopes are falling for american legion story. Still havent heard a word.
alvis
USA - Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 15:32:50 (MDT)

Ken, get out and soak up some of that sunshine!! Sorry to hear 'bout your brother in law. Have you been to Danville VA? I've been going there for quite a few years. It's a nicer drive and they treat you better than Indy....at least that's my opinion. As a matter of fact,I need to make an appointment for April.
Gale 67-68
Clinton, In USA - Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 15:19:47 (MDT)

Hi Flight, Just wanted to let you all know I am still checking in on the log. Have had a lot of pain issues the past couple weeks but maybe seeing the snow melt is helping. I have another brother-in-law who went to the VA in Danville and found out he has Colon Cancer last week. Like we all have said, it is our turn as the old vets to carry on many things. I did manage to write Rep. Steve Buyer today about the 11 cent travel pay which has not changed in a long time while it is costing me an arm & leg to get to the Indy VA. Then can't find a place to park. Two other things, first I am still trying to get a sight closer in Kokomo as they said I have one on the East end. Second is Soc Sec is telling me it is still over a year to get a hearing. That may keep us from making the trip to Florida, but still want to make it to Ohio & Kokomo. Please all take care and prey for those of us who are sicker than most.
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 14:05:08 (MDT)

Wink, Kat and I will both be there Friday evening. Let us know what we can bring! Bill Wolf
Bill Wolf
USA - Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 13:01:23 (MDT)

Goodmorning Flight: I just got through talking to Ray Foley. He was with the 129th 65-66. Here lately were are getting more of the first group of the 129th starting to pop up. It's a great feeling. The years are passing by real fast. And it's been a wild ride meeting all of you whom have been attending the reunions . I feel we are going to have a record group this year in Orlando. And friday night a 129th gathering at Wink's. You need to let him know who all will be attending. As you can tell. I am pumped up after talking to Ray. He will be stopping by the reunion. Plus, here lately Gerald Morgan, Truman Mills and Wayne Brown. Our 129th Family keeps growing. Always A Brother!!
Alex
USA - Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 08:37:09 (MDT)

I am looking for my uncle who was raised by His aunt Dana Daniels originally from Carrollton GA. His name is Philip Strickland he has been in Columbus, Ohio majority of his life he and my uncle Jerry Wyatt. We are desperately trying to find the both of them. I Know his last job was at Sterling Plant. We are Hav not heard from them in over 10 years. If anyone know either one of the pleaswe contact me.
latonya strickland <sarah_strickland@bellsouth.net>
carrollton, GA USA - Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 17:37:45 (MDT)

I am looking for my uncle who was raised by His aunt Dana Daniels originally from Carrollton GA. His name is Philip Strickland he has been in Columbus majority of his life he and my uncle Jerry Wyatt. We are desperately trying to find the both of them. I Know his last job was at Sterling Plant. We are Hav not heard from them in over 10 years. If anyone know either one of the pleaswe contact me.
latonya strickland <sarah_strickland@bellsouth.net>
carrollton, GA USA - Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 17:35:16 (MDT)

Flight: Just talked to Ray. He can't get to the computer to log on. I told him he needes to get a second opinion. And go to a civilian doctor. I know he's in alot of pain. But, he is contained to the couch. Always A Brother!!
Alex
USA - Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 08:55:49 (MDT)

oops, make that 95 days..jeeze,geting to old to count anymore.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 08:43:36 (MDT)

Two people were laid to rest yesterday,that should be of note,to us,the 129th ahc veterans. First was Billy Walkabout. He is the most decorated "Native American",Vietnam Veteran,period.He has a handfull of Silver Stars,Bronze Stars,Purple hearts,ect, earned while helping save his fellow unit members( lurps I think).They were being extracted by slicks,under heavy fire NVA, despite being wounded,he returned time and time again to pick up his fellows that were wounded and on the ground...he got back off the helicopter several times to do this.Secondly, the LAST WW1 Combat Veteran has died.The clock is ticking for us too guys.Mark has being trying to contact 129th members thru radio comericals,Alex has been trying thru drrect mail and old orders.Lets hope the American Legion picks up the ball and that ABC does as well,on the 509 story. REUNION in JUNE..its about 65 days away.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 08:41:11 (MDT)

Alvis: Appreciate all the work you have done on getting the needed recgonition that we need for the 129th and Phil's 509!! Also, hope you get some response from the ghostriders. Always A Brother!!
Alex
USA - Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 07:08:44 (MDT)

Bill, I will find out about the Tax number tomorrow,my day off.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, March 13, 2007 at 10:08:40 (MDT)

Alex, its the American legion.I too hope its included. Not only will it help the 509 but will hopefully be seen by guys in the 129th that dont know we are here. I am also hoping some friends I flew with from the 60th ahc (ghostriders) see it and somehow contact me. The fellows at the American legion headquarters told me that the Largest group of members are now the Nam Veterans.Anyway,it should help in that they will post this site in the article,if they do it. Lets not forget that Simon has beem talking to the ABC branch on London about the 509 "inside out" program. That too will lead awareness to this site as well as getting the 509 colors to remain.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, March 13, 2007 at 10:07:34 (MDT)

Fred A. If the VFW will the info in their national magazine. It might help bring attention to the 129th and our web site to attract our Brothers of the 129th. Have my fingers crossed they will use the info you gave them. Talked to Ray. So far his test has came back negitive. Glad some of you called him. As some have stated Ray can't sit at a computer for very long. Well back to work. 6 and sometimes 7 days a week. Temps in the 70's and 80's yesterday. Better than the teens of Ohio last week. Always A Brother.
Alex
USA - Tuesday, March 13, 2007 at 05:43:22 (MDT)

Hey gang, talked to Ray today. He's pretty sore and still has more procedures to go thru. He says he isn't getting on the computer much these days but misses you all. If you have his # you might want to give him a call and some encouragement. Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Monday, March 12, 2007 at 17:24:38 (MDT)

Hi guy I am going to see if I can put the video operation mom on a cd & watch it on a dvd Art
Arthur E Foster <tigerwagon@msn.com>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Sunday, March 11, 2007 at 00:25:31 (MST)

Hi that I had to fight back tears Art 68 to 71 thank I like it.
Arthur E Foster <tigerwagon@msn.com>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Saturday, March 10, 2007 at 18:06:23 (MST)

Wow Fred, what a tear jerker!!
Kal 67/68
USA - Saturday, March 10, 2007 at 07:32:03 (MST)

from the children of Vietnam Vets.This is very nice. Click on it... http://www.operationmom.org/ToOurParents.html
alvis
USA - Saturday, March 10, 2007 at 04:08:54 (MST)

Hi GUY I just talk with RAY & his BONE MARROW was GOOD so his spleen stay in just some to little big I let you know Art
Arthur E Foster <tigerwagon@msn.com>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Friday, March 09, 2007 at 19:50:00 (MST)

Hi Fred Glenda & me are praying for you & your Family we all have to thank to MEN like your UNCLE I lost my UNCEL when I was 18 I help him to build his house he gave me my first car it was a 50 pontiac flat head 6 he was only 35 when he went to be with GOD. Fred your UNCEL is with his FRENDS now so take care Art & Glenda
Arthur E Foster <tigerwagon@msn.com>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Friday, March 09, 2007 at 19:03:45 (MST)

We were in Kontum flying fot 101st when we lost Lt. Brague. We had a memorial service for him after we moved back to Dong Ba Thin. I don't remember anyone else being hurt or losing a ship then.
J. W. Wilson
USA - Friday, March 09, 2007 at 18:50:39 (MST)

Freddie, Our sympathy to you and your family. You will be in our prayers.
Jeff Sauers
USA - Friday, March 09, 2007 at 17:58:38 (MST)

opps..Simon sent me the CD,sorry Simon.
alvis
USA - Friday, March 09, 2007 at 15:11:55 (MST)

Had the day off. Gathered up the CD phil sent me,plus a new "Fly Past" magazine that our group was in,and headed back down to the American Legion World Headquarters. I ask to see one of the Editors of their magazine. We chatted a bit,he took my offering with a promise to view them this weekend.Keep your fingers crossed boys.If we can get the 509 in the American Legion Magazine,then perhaps we can convince some of our politicans that this just might be worth supporting in keeping the marking and 129th colors on the ship.
alvis
USA - Friday, March 09, 2007 at 15:11:09 (MST)

Fred S. Going to be with the Lord is cause for great celebration! He was apparently a great man, and we can use more like him. Our prayers are with you and your family in this tough time.
Dave Powers
USA - Friday, March 09, 2007 at 11:28:22 (MST)

Fred my condolences. Was your uncle with the "Big Red One"? I saws a documentery on the History channel. They interviewed some of the GI's. I can't by sure but I'm guessing one of the Vets that were interviewed may have been your uncle( his name rings a Bell). This one vet landed on the first wave on D-Day. Even though I didn't know him I feel sadness & sorrow.
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo, Tx USA - Friday, March 09, 2007 at 10:11:15 (MST)

Fred S. Your family is in our Thoughts and Prayers. Well back from Barberton, Ohio. Weather was bone chilling for me. And plenty of snow on and more was to come. Left heading back to the warm Tennesse weather. My Mom will be staying with my sister. She needs the 24hr attention. But, she is holding her own right now. My Dad is doing much better. I was able to get him to the store and back. He turned 85 on Weds. the 7th. Crossed paths with Rainer as he and Dee went to his aunt's funeral in Butler PA. The came through Akron on 76. Bill all reports about, LT. Brague was aircraft loss. But, no aircraft number, or details. Jim Hydinger was there. He would have known what happen. Always A Brother!!!
Alex
USA - Friday, March 09, 2007 at 09:20:12 (MST)

Fred S., our family's deepest sympathy for your loss. A slow salute to a great hero.
Bill Wolf
USA - Friday, March 09, 2007 at 08:54:29 (MST)

Fred, I am sorry for ypur loss. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.
J. W. Wilson
USA - Friday, March 09, 2007 at 06:33:48 (MST)

Fred S., My Respects go out to a fallen Hero, My dad did the same thing but was in the South Pacifac. He died 13 years ago. (They) (all) indeed saved this nation & were & are its greatest Sons & Daughters>>>>>>>> Smitty
jim westwang
sheridan, wy USA - Thursday, March 08, 2007 at 21:12:41 (MST)

A slow,respectful hand salute rendered Freddy. Its funny, the one man I most respect in this life,couldnt read nor write,stopped fighting ,as a young man ,when he married my grand mother,could build anything,including his own house,and was a church decon.No question about it,he too was a "mans man". Yours looked the beast in the eye,Freddy, the world is now worse off, in losing such a man.
alvis
USA - Thursday, March 08, 2007 at 21:02:29 (MST)

Matt Parker(captian). hey,it looks great.( thanks for passing it on to me Kim)
alvis
USA - Thursday, March 08, 2007 at 20:57:05 (MST)

My Uncle Elza passed away yesterday, A Man`s Man.......LYONS Elza Lyons, 82, of Westerville, went to be with the Lord Tuesday, March 6, 2007. He was born January 19, 1925, in Paintsville, KY, He was a decorated Army veteran of WWII, receiving three Bronze Service Stars, Good Conduct Medal, EAME Ribbon, Unit Citation, Combat Inf. Badge. Elza fought for our country on D-Day in Normandy and was in the first wave to hit Omaha Beach. He was also in other areas of France and Rhineland. Elza was a pastor for 30 years at Gahanna Baptist Church and was also a member of Hayden Baptist Church.
Fred Skaggs
NJ USA - Thursday, March 08, 2007 at 20:10:37 (MST)

Gentlemen, CPT Matt from 4/160 here. It's been a while, but things are still moving forward, and the Bulldog name will stay with us. Once we become and official battalion in a few months, the names will be in stone. We've been all over the place lately and so have our priorities. I'll be changing out of command in mid June, so I'd like to do something "official" prior to or in conjunction with that. Once we're all back in CONUS, we can start that planning. I'll shoot Dan H. a copy of our latest emblem/insignia/patch design, so he'll be able to post it for everyone. Basically, it's a dagger with a bulldog superimposed over it, it has our "AIRBORNE" tab above it, and it has the Roman numerals I, II, IX on the hilt. T-shirts, hats, etc. are in the works. Keep the greasy side down. -- Matt
Matt Parker
Fort Lewis, WA USA - Thursday, March 08, 2007 at 16:19:31 (MST)

Jim, thanks for the info on Lt. Brague. I did do an initial search of the helicopters to see if I could find which one was being flown, but no luck. You indicate that the ship did NOT crash and that could be the reason for no ship info. The info that I have indicated that the ship DID crash. I want to make sure the book is accurate. If you were the maintenance person and oversaw that ship, you should be right about it crashing or not crashing. Please let me know before the end of the month of any firm info. Bill Wolf
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Thursday, March 08, 2007 at 07:31:13 (MST)

Concerning the death of Lt. Brague; I was in the service platoon at the time of the incident. I think they were coming into an LZ when two rounds from automatic weapons came through the small side window just missing the seat and exited the top of Lt. Brague's helmet. He was killed instantly. Co-pilot was able to take over the controls while crew and passengers rendered aide to the Lt. The ship did not crash. Sgt Matherson and I took care of the helicopter after it returned. No one else was injured in the incident. I'll contact the crew chief and see if he would be willing to talk about it in more detail as to what the mission was and so on. Jim Hydinger '66-'67
Jim H.
USA - Wednesday, March 07, 2007 at 21:05:08 (MST)

>>> ANIMAL <<<< welcome back buddy. Robbie, perhaps Bill Wolf or Alex can help with that.I got my info from the work Bill has done so far.Cudo's to Bill. I know that Alex has done a great deal of work in that area as well. Another person that might be a source of info on that is Don Miller.He has done some wonderful work for the KIAs.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, March 07, 2007 at 20:56:15 (MST)

Well, I'm back! Got a new computer and have access to a high speed internet connection in Pahoa (4mi away). I still have a dial up service at home, but to tell you the truth, I got spoiled by the high speed! I managed to check in a few times this winter, and appreciate the input from all of you. JW, my condolences for your loss.... My admiration to the Great Britain delegation. My roots are in Great Britain. From what I understand, my ancesters were kicked out of Scotland for stealing sheep! (I hope thats all they were doing with them! LOL...)Welcome aboard Foster Brague! Stay with us!...........Smitty tapped my shoulder while flying and scared the piss out of me!... Bill, I can't wait to see the book. I don't have a suitable photo of myself, but a shot of Brad Pitt or someone should be close enough.....My new e-mail is: stonefacehawaii@yahoo.com I can't really complain about the weather here, so I'll just say Aloha Nui Loa for now. Greg Henkel (1st Flt Plt- 7/71-2/72)
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Wednesday, March 07, 2007 at 19:48:08 (MST)

Mr. Brague - I was in the 129th part of the time when Lt. Brague was there. We are all so very grateful that he wrote our company history of 1966. I regret that I honestly cannot add anything to what has been stated- I had left country before January '67. gm
Gerald Morgan
USA - Wednesday, March 07, 2007 at 18:05:41 (MST)

Fred A or anyone, can you tell me the number of the ship Edwin Brague was on? Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Wednesday, March 07, 2007 at 17:58:40 (MST)

Hi Alvis it a little late yes I got them you guy were so lucky to fly on 509 I giv a arm & leg Art
Arthur E Foster <tigerwatigerwatigerwe>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Wednesday, March 07, 2007 at 17:44:33 (MST)

Fred A. can you tell me the number of the aircraft that Edwin Brague Jr. was on at the time? Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Wednesday, March 07, 2007 at 17:28:05 (MST)

Phew....Posters went out this morning...let me know what you think of them:>)) L-Gently
Gently
USA - Wednesday, March 07, 2007 at 12:23:52 (MST)

Foster, I am working on a book about the 129th that should be available around the 2nd week of May. However, I will send you two items via email today. First is the circumstances of his death which is pretty much what Fred has stated. The second is the 1966 Unit history that he wrote. I will add your email address to my group email to let you know when the book is ready to be ordered (we don't know the cost as yet). Bill Wolf
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Wednesday, March 07, 2007 at 08:43:40 (MST)

flight, can someone fill in the gaps? I wasnt there at that time frame.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, March 07, 2007 at 06:28:25 (MST)

1st Lt. Edwin Steven Brague Jr. January 7, 1967. Lt. Brague was killed by a single shot that came through the side door of the aircraft and over the top of the seat and entered his head under his right ear while he was flying the aircraft.The aircraft crashed.Edwin was 23 and from Ridgewood,New Jersey. He started his tour on September 20,1966.Edwin was responsible for writing the 1966 "Unit History" shortly before his death. Lt. Brague's name is on Panel 13E,line 120 of the Vietnam Memorial Wall. (I found ,and took,this information from the rough copy of the book, Bill Wolf is putting together.)
alvis
USA - Wednesday, March 07, 2007 at 06:25:58 (MST)

IAM THE FIRST COUSIN OF 1ST.LT. EDWIN S BRAGUE KILLED IN ACTION JAN. 7,1967 HE HAD NO BROTHERS OR SISTERS , WAS THE ONLY CHILD OF EDWIN SR. AND ELISBETH BRAGUE FROM RIDGEWOOD,NJ. I SERVED FOUR YEARS IN THE USMC WITH TWO TOURS OF DUTY IN VIET NAM IN I CORPS. I AM HIS ONLY LIVING RELATIVE AND TEND TO HIS GRAVE WITH HONOR AND LOVE. I SHOULD HAVE STATED EARLIER BOTH HIS PARENTS,WHO WERE MY AUNT AND UNCLE ARE NOW DECEASED. ALL I KNOW OF HIS DEATH HE WAS SHOT DOWN AND KILLED BY HOSTILE GROUND FIRE.I AM ASKING FOR MORE DETAILS FROM ANYONE WHO HAS ADDITIONAL INFO. WAS HIS WHOLE CREW KILLED ?--WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT WAS HIS MISSION AT THE TIME ? PLEASE HELP ME, I AM 61 YRS. OLD AND WANT TO PUT THIS TO REST BEFORE I DEPART THIS WORLD. THANK YOU.
FOSTER W BRAGUE <sereno45@verizon.net>
PLAINS, PA. USA - Tuesday, March 06, 2007 at 22:12:57 (MST)

Hi guy & on the chin bubble I dun it but I was laying on the ground with a rag & some brasso I heard of a guy hanging from the skid how high I dont know & one day ap pilot put a can of hot dogs & bean on the tail close to the eng & for about it & there was a bang I hit the ground & larry brewster was busting a gut there were franks & bean all over the ship I told the pp you going to clean it up it was funny & we never found that can & when I was a grunt one day we were out & going cross ariver & me & three other guy were in the midel of it & a snake about the size of a soocker ball slid off the bank I think I could have walk on water it seam funny that some things you forgut come back at times just would like the good things & not the bad one like I sead it just hit me when I was with the 68th top tiger I was a gunner & the ship I first got you coud not make it shine so when it went into pe I got to think I just paint it if I can & they told me ok if you can find some paint I look ever ware & found some so i cleaned the ship up & taped it & spraied it but it was flat od green one guy told me if I got some thiner you could make it shine & seeing we were on the AIR FORCE base I went & talk to some guy & they sead come over here & we give you some & some stuf to put in the paint & it would shine & when it dried it did the co . told me that dont get it but my AC how had a bout 30 day left with the co & it was ok & when I went home it was the same they tried to get me to go to the hanger & paint ships & I told them NOW WAY I had aphoto of the ship but one day I throw all the photos in the trash the photos I got are the one I sent home to my MOTHER & she past away last april so I got all the photos of me & my DAD he was in sub it the Pacific in ww 2 well got to go the WIFE CALLING she might have to get here hip fixed take care BROTHER ART
Arthur E Foster <tigerwagon@msn.com>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Tuesday, March 06, 2007 at 18:44:59 (MST)

I got used to firing my 60 while it hung from a strap, and I used that to keep myself from falling out. I remember one ASAP, when Mike McKinney forgot to pull the mail bags off the miniguns. We climbed out and pulled the bags off , and I almost got sucked out of the ship when the bag got caught in the slipstream! Walking the skids was fun, but I never had the courage to try tapping the chin bubble.... I flew a few times with Rick Stevenson as his gunner, and I can't remember him ever wearing a harness, In fact, I have a picture of him putting on his chicken plate, and he didn't even have a shirt on.
Kim
USA - Tuesday, March 06, 2007 at 15:50:06 (MST)

Hi guy I had a monkey strap to it was a good thing to have when you were standing on the skids when you tap the ac on the head he told me scared the $hit out of him he told me what would have hapen if you fell got my monkey strap on what if it broke I told him there be a big hole in the ground & he sead dont it bother you I told him when I was a grunt I went in bunker & tunel 7 that did not bother me after I had pick a buddy up you could not tell where eany of his arms or leg or head was to go & on nov 13 at about 12 or 1 it hapen his name was Fray & he the only Fray on the WALL there were 3 other KIA & one with his leg about blowen of what hapen Fray step on a 105 round & set it off & we had a guy crack up & had to have him pick up by a slick so I got pist off & sead I would never take one out of a hole walking & did not car if I did not go home plus the girl I was going to get hook up with took of with a friend & that the way I got did not care I like to take a chance but got a few of them & when are sixty guy went on RR they just call me & told me here the sixty no problem I tak it & he told me Foster you just dont give a $hit nop & he sead you never go home walking but I did there one thing that would scare the $hit out of me that one of the arver pilot coud not keep a ship in trim I all most kict the $hit out of one when he blue my 35 mm supper 8 out of the ship I was stop by my AC I just asked him just one hit he told me I go to LBJ I dont care well the BETER HALF just called so take care GUY Art
Arthur E Foster <tigerwagon@msn.com>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Tuesday, March 06, 2007 at 11:20:05 (MST)

Jim, My heart goes out to you and your family today. God Bless all of you. Fred, about the Huey....ask if you can make a "pitch" or have a booth at the re-union this year....sell CD's..ask for donations. Posters: for those of you who have sent in your checks the posters are now in their perfect containers for mailing. I just have to get them stamped by the post office. Love-Gently
Gently
USA - Tuesday, March 06, 2007 at 10:01:50 (MST)

Yea Kim, I had a "monkey strap" and would move around pretty free. But not unbuckled!!!!, Of course when calling a "sling load", I`ve laid on the floor of the ship, a little tuff to do in the well. But that was around the AO "ash and trash" stuff, when you could still see Lane, while working. Of course if we were resupplying, the Koreans in the Sui Cau Valley, after a CA....We would call a load from the well. But working with the 4th Inf. or 173rd in Happy Valley, they helped out alot. If Jimmy, the translator, was with you, it made working with the Koreans easier......Working with Col. Book, of the MACV, 22nd ARVN, that always a adventure. Him and his "1 helicopter CA`s" and "let`s see if we can draw some fire" recons.
Fred Skaggs
NJ USA - Tuesday, March 06, 2007 at 06:09:38 (MST)

UNBUCKLE ???????? I remember that we called that thing a 'CHICKEN STRAP'....Ah, to be young, numb, and full of ***.
Kim
USA - Tuesday, March 06, 2007 at 04:12:41 (MST)

BOOK UPDATE: Wanted to update you all regarding the book. It's now up to 314 pages and I know there are still a few photos en route. The ABSOLUTE deadline to have any other stories or photos to me is March 30th. After that date I will put the final touches on the manuscript and get it off to Bill Whelan for printing. Fortunately for all of us, Bill owns a printing shop and is giving us a very good price!! This will be a professionally bound soft-cover book. It will also include a video CD with most of the book photos, music, and some video. I'm hoping that we will have the book ready for orders by the second week of May. I will also bring some to the VHCMA reunion. I want to thank every one who has submitted material and photos. I went through close to 1,000 photos and a great many made it into the book. The stories were awesome and I think will give the reader a more realistic insight to the "combat veteran". Anyways, hope that updates ya! I truly want to thank you for the privilage of doing this project. All the profits will be going to the 129th fund. Thanks gang! Bill Wolf
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Monday, March 05, 2007 at 16:30:57 (MST)

hmmm. wonder what a flight to capetown cost.While i was watching that,i thought about the old trick we used to play on the pilots. the one where we would unbuckle,swing around the upright,then go up and tap them on the shoulder. I was going to do that to Phil,but with the 50s mounted as they were,I couldnt squeeze thru between the gun handles and the upright.pity I couldnt.
alvis
USA - Monday, March 05, 2007 at 16:13:22 (MST)

Never thought I'd say this but, God help me but I miss this----------http://youtube.com/watch?v=PeBcTV5-5E8 Hey Alvis, that was somethin' in '71, huh? Had one touch down right across the street from me. Slept right through it.
Larry Kwiatkowski
Simi Valley, CA USA - Monday, March 05, 2007 at 15:45:55 (MST)

HI GENTLY SORRY WE FORGOT TO SEND THE MONEY WEGET IT OUT AFTER THE BONE MARROW TEST IF IT COMES BACK THAT THE SPLEEN NEEDS TO COME OUT THEN IT WILLBE FRIDAY,TRUST MY WE WONT SCAM YOU LOL OH TO DAY WE GOT A CALL FROM ONE OF OUR CREIT CARDS CO SHE SAID SOME TRYED TO TAKE OUT 995$ AND SENDIT TO WESTERN OUNION. BUT SHE STOPED IT, SAID ITS NOT LIKE US, NOW WE GOT TO GET ANOTHER CARD. WE SEND YOU A CERFRID CHECH AGAIN HOW MUCH FOR 2, GOING TO GIVE TO MY GRAND SONS. HE ALL READY A BOOK ON THE AMERICAN REVALAITON. BUT WE GET THE MONEY TO YOU SOON. JUSTSO MUCHON Y PLATE ITS OVER FLOWING FOR ON THE 9 I GET MY PROPASTE CUT OFF WITH SOME KIND OF LAZER JUST A BIT NOT ALL OF IT WRITE BACK SOON SORRY FOR REPEATING MY SELK,BUT DIDNT WANT GENTLY I WAS'T GOING TO PAY, ITS JUST SO MUCH COME UP HARD TODEAL WITH,BUT PROMISE IT WILL BE OUT BY FRIDAY LOVE YA SIS I CARE FOR YOU ALL.DON HOW IS DONNA DOING. I HOPE ALL IS GOING WELL FOR AL.& I SPOKE THE RIGHT WORDS A BROTHER ALWAYS RAY
RAY
MD USA - Monday, March 05, 2007 at 10:57:46 (MST)

Freinds, I have finally rec'd the tubes to mail your posters out in. Bet you thought i scammed ya, didin't ya. Shame. :>)) so, once i get them addressed and the postage put on ..they are gone(but only to those who have paid me:>)). I know some of you ordered them...but no money, no poster...sorry. I still have more left so if you want one or more, email me at "Gentlyjs@yahoo.com" with your mailing info and I'll set it/them aside until i receive your check. My address : Judith singer (AKA Gently), 7221 W. Bluemound Road, Milwaukee WI 53213 Ray, you remain in my praqyers. l-j
Gently
USA - Monday, March 05, 2007 at 10:09:24 (MST)

HELLO EVERYONE I BEN LOOKING FOR THE REGISONN SHEETS BUT CANT FIND THEM, IT MAY BE ME I GUESS. TOMORROW I GO FOR THE BONEMARROW TEST ,TO SE IF IHAVE CANSER IN MY SPLEEN CAUSE IT IS SO ENLARGED, IF IT IS IT HAS TO COME OUT, IT WILL ALSO TELL OTHER THINGS HE SAIS ITRY TO LET YOU KNOW TOMORROW OK I GO IN AT 9;30 TOMORROW I KNOW THEY HURT BUT I KNOW NEEDS TO BE DONE. BUT IF ANY ONE CAN TELL USHOW TO GET REGISTON FORMS I APPRIATE IT WE COME IN MONDAY AFTERNOON SO SEE YOU ALL IN ORLANDO, TAKE CARE ABROTHER ALWAYS RAY BE SAFE YOU ALL MEAN A LOT TO ME YOU ALL HELPED ME GET THIS FAR. I THANK YOU FROM MY HEART .BILL I PRAY FOR YOUR YOUR SONS TO BE SAFE AND COME HOME HOME TO YOU LIKE THEY LEEFT SAFE AND NO HARM, I HOPE I WORDED I WRIGHT, ROB ALEX RICK ART I KEEP IN TOUCH BY PHONE KAL I TALK TO YOU BY MSN JUDITH WE TALK SOON MYFRIEND SEE YA ALL OH WINK HAVENT FOR GOT YOU EITHER OR GALE & DEBBIE TO MANY TO NAME. MARK ARE YOU AND DEE GOING TO ORLANDO
RAY <stilwating@aol.com>
md USA - Monday, March 05, 2007 at 09:15:56 (MST)

Bill, shouldnt the by-laws be the same as the ones I presented for the state chapter?Dang, I need to root around my desk drawers and find all that info. Give me a couple of days and I will send you tax numbers and by laws...stuff I have already done...the two do need to mesh somewhat.
alvis
USA - Monday, March 05, 2007 at 03:53:12 (MST)

Robbie, the only pic I have of me in-country is posted on a web page http://donald_6.tripod.com/129pics.htm or you can click on my name below to go to it too. the first pic is of Les Sprague and me. Les is on the left and I am facing the camera. Later, Don
Don Miller
Valley Farms, AZ USA - Sunday, March 04, 2007 at 23:47:48 (MST)

Fred, If you want, I can run with the incorporation. Colorado is extremely easy to get non-profit corporation. I have also done the fed thing in the past for another nonprofit. I have a very good template for Bylaws. Let me know if you want me to run with it. Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Sunday, March 04, 2007 at 15:14:10 (MST)

Saw Mr Paye (ron) yesterday. He is now back on line,i believe.Says he will be at the reunion in june. Talked to Simon and Bradly today as well.They have set up more airshows for the 509. They will list them as the are confirmed.Bill Wolf and I are going to again start on getting a fed taxfree number for the 129th.I did do it state level,two years ago,but its time to go national.That reminds me,I need to get back with a friend on the hats/shirts,ect, for printing.I gave mine away to Bradly, Simons son,in England.If he is flying as gunner on the 509,he needed a 129th hat...chuckle. Nina,his wife,is now in possession of one of the " Pop a Top" t-shirts as well.Jo, Phil's wife , now owns a pair of flight pants (nomax) that i brought back home with me. As I am about 50 pounds heavier,no way could I fit in them.I think they were wore 3 times by me.Simon says he is putting together another CD,of the full interviews,ect.They had 3 camera rolling,2 doing different shots while one was on all the time.We're talking about 45 minutes instead of 9 1/2 minutes.If and when I get a copy,it will be shared with who ever wants one.
alvis
USA - Sunday, March 04, 2007 at 10:46:02 (MST)

Don, thanks for the weather update. I can't believe I don't remember you. I know we were there at the same time. How about emailing me a Pic of you when you were there. Maybe my feeble mind will be able to remember. bulldogtwosixfive@bluefrog.com. Use numbers instead of the words. Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Saturday, March 03, 2007 at 13:36:13 (MST)

ghoastrider1@hotmail.com
alvis
USA - Friday, March 02, 2007 at 21:11:26 (MST)

well Robbie I'm not Rick but the temp's here are great. the nights are cool 35 - 45 and the days are 65ish. but next week we should reach the 80's ......... I LOVE THIS STATE ! ! ! ! !
Don Miller
Valley Farms, AZ USA - Friday, March 02, 2007 at 18:38:11 (MST)

Fred, can you email me your email address? I need to touch bases with you on some issues regarding the book. Thanks. Bill
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Friday, March 02, 2007 at 17:48:01 (MST)

Ray, I'm glad your trip to the dentist was a good one. Thanks again for the pic. Alex, I hope you find your Mom is ok by the time you get there. It's 37 in Upstate NY. I got some ice off of my roof today. The temps are going to drop again tue, but then back in the 30's. Rick E. give us a temp for Phoenix. Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Friday, March 02, 2007 at 15:41:04 (MST)

hello to all alex the dentis went off good pulled the tooth. now on tue i have bone marrel taken out this desides if my splen comes out .it seems i got things in it. my blood count is low. and my whole left side hurts bad. i cant eat, when i eat i seento be full. then on the 9TH i get my propaste cut with a laser again. but now at least i fround some dr"s that are listenig. also ii may have a blood dis order oh well i may have said all this before if so sory i dont recal much aanymore thanks a brother alway ray
RAY <stilwatig@aol.com>
md USA - Friday, March 02, 2007 at 12:20:59 (MST)

Flight: The VHCMA web site is back up and running. The also, have posted the Orlando registration forms for thoses whom want to print it off. The earlier you get registered it gives the VHCMA an idea on how many people will be attending. Also, any of you whom want to join the VHCMA can get the application on line also. Will be leaving early Sunday morning for North Eastern Ohio. to see my Mom. It's been in the 60 and 70's. Not, looking forward to the cold temps. Ray, hope your dentist din't pull the wrong teeth yesterday? Always A Brother!!
Alex
USA - Friday, March 02, 2007 at 07:07:35 (MST)

Bill, photo #1 is Mr DeSantis, the hand in the photo helping him strap in is John Chauncey. check my web pages I have more pic's there. it looks like this one came from my pages. unless someone cropped the photo the same as I did. Later, Don
Don Miller
Valley Farms, AZ USA - Thursday, March 01, 2007 at 23:02:58 (MST)

Hi GUY I live in GA & torando I dont like I from Rhode Island live on the water & a hurricane I can take but a torando I cant it sneak up on you we lived in franklin & it went throw are yard spund my sat dish around to it raped the wire around the pol & I had to check my pants & there were skid marks in them & I told the wife we are geting off this hill & that day we found a place to rent with a hurricane it lets you know it coming & if it bad enouth you can get out of town & the wife & I will pray for the KIDS & the folks. Art
Arthur E Foster <tigerwagon@msn.com>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Thursday, March 01, 2007 at 19:21:51 (MST)

I hope all our brothers and sisters in the tornado area are safe. We pray for you and for the others.
Bill Wolf
USA - Thursday, March 01, 2007 at 17:45:09 (MST)

Hey Larry,I was there when tornadoes went thru there in 71..it was april or may,somewhere close to that.
alvis
USA - Thursday, March 01, 2007 at 17:45:00 (MST)

thats the great thing about VA. Most of the people work there do a great,but most times,thankless job. The system is screwed up. Now here comes the good part...aint no-one to point the finger at.They screw the vets and then screw them some more,and their isnt anyone to blame.Is this country great or what? They always say the money going into it has risen 10% ,or whatever,but never mention the case load had risen 15%. They decieve by omission.
alvis
USA - Thursday, March 01, 2007 at 17:43:19 (MST)

Tornadoes touched down in Enterprise today and killed 8 kids at the high school. I was there in '71 when 8 of those damned things hit Ft. Rucker and surrounding area. Condolances and prayers to those folks.
Larry Kwiatkowski
Simi Valley, CA USA - Thursday, March 01, 2007 at 17:14:44 (MST)

Well Kim.....I didn`t want to get the political thing going.....Just the OUTRAGE.
Fred Skaggs
NJ USA - Thursday, March 01, 2007 at 16:29:57 (MST)

Aahhh Freddie......you know as well as I that the problem isn't so much the VA system as it is our political scumbags, whether it be boy georgie, or the gutless butt wipers in the congress. Fight a war on the cheap.... WE do that in the private sector. Everybody has to make do with less...less money, fewer workers, just accomplish whatever mission lies ahead. It's been well known for a while now that the VA is underfunded, and therefore unprepared to deal with the influx of wounded, physical and mental. All the improvements in body armor, first aid, and medical technology have led to a lower body count, at the expense of more wounded. BUTTTTTT...good ole politics has to be served, too. How much red ink can the economy stand? And we certainly don't want to piss off the major political contributors, they paid good money to get their tax breaks, and we ALLL KNOW that it takes money to win??? ( the next election, that is)...Besides, aren't the grunts used to living in pup tents, sand storms, hundred degree plus weather???? What's a little mold after all that?
Kim
USA - Thursday, March 01, 2007 at 15:19:03 (MST)

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xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, xxxxxx USA - Thursday, March 01, 2007 at 15:00:54 (MST)

NEED YOUR HELP GUYS! In the book I'm working on I have a photo that I had received that indicated that it was Mr. DeSantis. However, Mark seems to think it is Bill Hewitt, but sent me another photo he thinks is DeSantis. I put them on a web page. Please go take a look and let me know if you can positively identify or clear up who is who. Please don't guess - I dont want to mix up something this delicate. The site is: www.wolfcms.com/who.html Thanks.
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Thursday, March 01, 2007 at 14:09:23 (MST)

Walter Reed Hospital, "The Jewel" military hospitals......I can understand that WE have other priorities goin on. But, why hasn't there been a resounding voice of complete "OUT RAGE OVER THIS". I`m tired of these phoney "Support the Troops" lying hypocrites, look how our vets and troops are being treated!!!!! This isn`t politics, it's just a PUBLIC RELATIONS issue, eventually the problem will just go away...That`s bullshit.. it`s total disrespect for the men and women who put their ass on the line for this country. Past, Present and the Future. Now I know that, Jeff S. and Jim(Smitty) W., you worked for the system, and it`s not a personal attack on you guys. There`s no doubt in my mind that you guys did the best you could.....you took more than a personal interest. Somebody needs to be court-martialed on this. That kind of treatment and environment (mice? mold?) speaks volumes as to what the "brass" thinks of those they are in charge of. I am beyond sick at the hypocrisy of the V.A. system.
Fred Skaggs
NJ USA - Thursday, March 01, 2007 at 13:47:42 (MST)

JW sorry to hear about your mother, are you going to the reunion? Fred great poem It didn't matter what year you were there. Good job. Flight be careful out there
Rick England
USA - Thursday, March 01, 2007 at 03:40:26 (MST)